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Tuff Stuff VS Barricade?

Can the community chime in here on these? Same look and design but vary significantly on price points. Are these both made in China? Paging Ryan from XT??

Barricade Trail Force HD rear bumper and tire carrier $749 + free shipping



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I have the Tuff Stuff front, rear, tire carrier and winch. All seem to be sufficient for the money which was around $800 for the lot.

The tire carrier will rattle but I put a bumper on the gate to take up the slack and that stopped the rattle. I also made a horizontal mount for my hi-lift on the carrier.

There is no place on the rear to mount the light plug or holes for safety chains so I drilled some. Also, the where the cross member mounts is a little loose (on mine) so some shimming was needed to take up the slack to allow it to get tight.

The front holes didn't line up perfect but a step size bigger drill took care of that. I mounted KC Daylighters on the bull bar and had to enlarge the hole for the wire conduit grommet but they don't know what the end user will put up there so that could be expected.

Crinkle powder coat finish on them is excellent.

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I just installed the rear bumper/tire carrier: got it off ebay for $318. Was a PIA to install properly, but all in all, I'm very happy with it. Looks great and is very heavy duty! Looks like 1/4" plate steel, decent welds, with a nice coat of bedliner type paint on it. Bumper alone has some serious weight to it! I did the job alone, and it left me *hurting*!!
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Can the community chime in here on these? Same look and design but vary significantly on price points. Are these both made in China? Paging Ryan from XT??

Barricade Trail Force HD rear bumper and tire carrier $749 + free shipping



Tuff Stuff rear bumper and tire carrier $475 + free shipping
I can't say anything about the Tuff Stuff bumper but I can say that the Barricade Trail Force HD Rear Bumper and Tire Carrier is a really nice piece. You'll be able to hang a big spare on it with no concern about the tailgate. The bumper is made of 3/16" steel so it's strong but keeps the weight down a bit. You gain recovery points and a receiver for accessories, all in a great looking package.

The other benefit to purchasing through us is that you know we'll be here to stand behind the products we sell in the event that you ever need us for anything.

Please let me know if you need anything at all or if you have any other questions about the Barricade bumper!

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I can't say anything about the Tuff Stuff bumper but I can say that the Barricade Trail Force HD Rear Bumper and Tire Carrier is a really nice piece. You'll be able to hang a big spare on it with no concern about the tailgate. The bumper is made of 3/16" steel so it's strong but keeps the weight down a bit. You gain recovery points and a receiver for accessories, all in a great looking package.

The other benefit to purchasing through us is that you know we'll be here to stand behind the products we sell in the event that you ever need us for anything.

Please let me know if you need anything at all or if you have any other questions about the Barricade bumper!

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Ryan,

How's the install for this? Could you PM me a quote on it.
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The barricade bumper looks like it uses a spindle and bearing set up for the tire swing hinge. The cheaper Tuff stuff carrier looks like it uses a split tube over a slightly smaller inner tube as the hinge. If you look at the right hand side of the Tuff stuff tire carrier you will see the two bolts that are usually used to tighten or loosen the hinge on the cheaper split tube over tube design.
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^ That's what I was seeing too.

I also don't understand why both of them have a hitch but don't have holes for the chain. It put me off from buying either before, I need to hook my chain up.
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I prefer Tuff Stuff.
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^ That's what I was seeing too.

I also don't understand why both of them have a hitch but don't have holes for the chain. It put me off from buying either before, I need to hook my chain up.
Hook your chain to the D-Rings!

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I wonder if you could drill out a place to attach chains near the hitch?
I was thinking there was actually some law (in georgia atleast) that required chains?
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I have no experience with the Tuff Stuff, but I can give a thumbs-up to the Barricade and to Ryan's customer service.

I installed both a front and rear Barricade, including a winch and a set of Hella 4000's, by myself in less than four hours (minus the wiring, just the physical install). The bumpers were a perfect fit, included good instructions, and are by far my favorite Jeep mods to date. Fast shipping too... I believe I had both bumpers three days after ordering.

My front bumper had a small chip in the powder coat on the very outside edge from the UPS octagon of death, nothing major at all, but Ryan offered to send a full replacement bumper which I declined. He then offered a three-part spray repair kit at no charge which I did accept.

Great experience and really nice bumpers.
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Tuff Stuff, is the one I installed. Failed to mention that in my post! So far, the fit is excellent, no rattling or even bouncing. Very solid. I could just as easily do the Barricade though...they look very similar.
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^ That's what I was seeing too. I also don't understand why both of them have a hitch but don't have holes for the chain. It put me off from buying either before, I need to hook my chain up.
As far as I understand that means they are not rated to tow, only use accessories. I can only speak for the barricade as that is what I had but I believe that was the case for that one and could be for the other as well.
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Most if not all do.
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theres some value to having barricade back you up though. Especially ryan. I got the barricade just for that reason. If the handle breaks, rattles or welds fail, im 100% certain that Ryan will fix it.

There has been some rust where the powdercoating has chipped off. I just hit it with some canned bedliner and it looks good as new. It was a bit of chipped, rusty spots right out of the packaging. But all of that was an easy fix.
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^ That's what I was seeing too.

I also don't understand why both of them have a hitch but don't have holes for the chain. It put me off from buying either before, I need to hook my chain up.

if you rate the bumper as tow rated and it fails while towing, they're in for a pretty hefty lawsuit. also, i think there's some testing and certifications involved to allow the bumper to be tow rated. Even though it can physically tow probably more than the factory hitch, technically it cant say it in the documentation.

I've towed a 2500lbs boat with my barricade. no problems, no stress fractures on the welds.
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Ordered the Barricade bumper Wednesday and shipping says it will arrive tomorrow 2-3 days free shipping. Good stuff.
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The barricade bumper looks like it uses a spindle and bearing set up for the tire swing hinge. The cheaper Tuff stuff carrier looks like it uses a split tube over a slightly smaller inner tube as the hinge. If you look at the right hand side of the Tuff stuff tire carrier you will see the two bolts that are usually used to tighten or loosen the hinge on the cheaper split tube over tube design.
The Barricade hinge set up is strong for sure! I wheeled with a coworker yesterday and his carrier has a 37 x 12.5 and a hi-lift hanging off it with no issues. He bounced it around quite a bit and dailies it like that and it works great!

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^ That's what I was seeing too.

I also don't understand why both of them have a hitch but don't have holes for the chain. It put me off from buying either before, I need to hook my chain up.
That bumper isn't tow rated so they don't put chain loops on it. It is expensive to tow rate a bumper and also can open the manufacturer up to liability, so there are a lot of companies that won't tow rate their stuff.

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theres some value to having barricade back you up though. Especially ryan. I got the barricade just for that reason. If the handle breaks, rattles or welds fail, im 100% certain that Ryan will fix it.

There has been some rust where the powdercoating has chipped off. I just hit it with some canned bedliner and it looks good as new. It was a bit of chipped, rusty spots right out of the packaging. But all of that was an easy fix.
Thanks for the kind words. We do back up every part we sell and if you ever have an issue, no matter how big or small, I'll do anything and everything I can to make it right!

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How's the install for this? Could you PM me a quote on it.
The install is really straight forward! It'll bolt right up for you without any cutting or drilling.

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Ordered the Barricade bumper Wednesday and shipping says it will arrive tomorrow 2-3 days free shipping. Good stuff.
I'm glad you pulled the trigger on one and it got to you so quickly! Let me know how the install goes!

If anyone else wants a quote or has any questions, just let me know!

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I'm tempted to get a barricade rear bumper in time for my first ever Go Topless Day out here in Houston/Galveston with my first ever wrangler. I need to start posting more 10/25 lol.
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I'm tempted to get a barricade rear bumper in time for my first ever Go Topless Day out here in Houston/Galveston with my first ever wrangler. I need to start posting more 10/25 lol.
I'll be putting one on tomorrow after noon. If you want some feedback on it and the install check my build thread tomorrow afternoon.
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I'll be putting one on tomorrow after noon. If you want some feedback on it and the install check my build thread tomorrow afternoon.

it's pretty easy. even though its over 100 lbs i did it myself. You literally set it on your frame, shake it a bit to line up the bolts and bolt it on. You might have some chipped powdercoat on the corners. Get some $7 canned bedliner and touch it up. Rustoleum spray can bedliner matched the best
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I'm tempted to get a barricade rear bumper in time for my first ever Go Topless Day out here in Houston/Galveston with my first ever wrangler. I need to start posting more 10/25 lol.
Let me know if I can get you a quote! We have them in stock and ready to ship!
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it's pretty easy. even though its over 100 lbs i did it myself. You literally set it on your frame, shake it a bit to line up the bolts and bolt it on. You might have some chipped powdercoat on the corners. Get some $7 canned bedliner and touch it up. Rustoleum spray can bedliner matched the best
That's good advice on the install. I use a floor jack with some wooden blocks when I have to take mine on and off.

As for the chips, I'm glad you found something that matched. I have touch up kits that I'll send anyone with a chipped Barricade bumper for free. Let me know if you'd like one of those for any future touch ups!

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One of the big reasons I bought a Barricade front bumper is the customer service I see in every one of these threads. Everything lined up perfectly and there was no chipping, so I haven't had to take advantage of it myself, though.
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Not bashing Barricade, but they're the same damn bumpers as were the Paramount bumpers that I have. I paid $800 for both front and rear. Someone along the way is buying those Paramount bumpers, rebranding them and severely marking them up.
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For those that have installed the barricade, any tips on getting the tire carrier to mount over the spindle on the bumper? I've used pressure, grease, and a mallet but no go. It won't fit no matter what.
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For those that have installed the barricade, any tips on getting the tire carrier to mount over the spindle on the bumper? I've used pressure, grease, and a mallet but no go. It won't fit no matter what.
I have your replacement shipping to you today! There must have been some damage during shipping that knocked the carrier out of round. Let me know when you get the new one and how it fits!

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I have your replacement shipping to you today! There must have been some damage during shipping that knocked the carrier out of round. Let me know when you get the new one and how it fits!

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Ryan, thanks so much for the awesome follow up and for getting a new carrier out. I will update both threads with the new carrier once here and definitely vouch for the great service from you guys. I appreciate how quickly you came through.

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