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Old 05-17-2017, 05:20 PM
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Water issues?

I see mention of water getting into JK/U's on here and see some youtube videos about leaks.

What I want to know is, is this really common? I'm a new Jeep owner and this concerns me a bit if a brand new vehicle is prone to having water pool inside of it just from rain, etc.

Now, I understand if there is water in it after you cross a creek or something that goes up to the doors.

Is it really common?

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Old 05-17-2017, 05:50 PM   #2
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For what it's worth. I bought a two door 2012 hard top sport a few months ago. 36k on it at time of purchase. It leaked so badly that the dealership had to replace every seal on the top as well as both doors seals to prevent the indoor swimming pool.

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I have a '13 with water leak issues and I have a coworker with a '16 and has water issues. The mistake that I made was parking mine under a carport for the majority of the warranty period. Wish I would have left it out in the rain enough to figure out the seals were leaking before the warranty ran out. The dealership wanted 850.00 for new seals.
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Conversely, I've got a 2011 soft top 2 door that I bought with 89k miles on it, and the only water I get inside is around the rear window on the bottom passenger side, and that's because the zipper won't go down all the way.

My wife has a 2014 JKU hardtop that we bought with 54k miles on it. It hasn't leaked either with the freedom panels or the sunrider.

Luck of the draw, I guess.

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I am on my second JKU with a hard top and have only have a small leak on the first one a few times when the rain was extremely hard and sideways. I have never had a leak when going through a car wash.
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I bought a 2015 2-door in March of this year. Within weeks, I discovered very significant leaks on both sides in the front. I had soaked carpeting on both sides, and also had water drip on to the dash and radio twice while driving, although there was no sign of this leak when it was just sitting. Vehicle was in the shop all last week and had most if not all seals replaced. It finally passed the dealer leak test, but it hasn't rained yet this week, so it hasn't faced the real-world test yet.
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:38 PM   #7
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I had a 2010 jku hard and soft top. No leaking issues either top

Now I have a 2017 jku hardtop. I also kept my old softtop no leak issues either top.

Not completely true. The hard top on 2 occasions in 6.3 years had a drop of water on top of the radio? Nothing else
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Mine doesn't leak at all


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I've got a 2012 JK with a hardtop and a 2013 JKU with dual tops. The only time they leak it is from "user error". I just re-adjust the seals and the leak goes away. I find that my tops are finicky and like to be put on a certain way.
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I've never had an issue with any of my Jeeps. Took my "new" JKU through my favorite aggressive car wash and no leaks. It's also been through a pretty good rain storm and no leaks. Which surprised me, expected some leaks from the freedom top, but nope.

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My first JK, a 2007 bought used in 2010, had a hardtop. It leaked a couple of times after I had taken and put back on the two front top pieces. Each time I was able to just reseat the tops and the leaks stopped.

My current JK, a 2017 model, has a Premium Soft Top. No leaking issues so far, but I have yet to take the top down.
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My 16 JK went through car washes every 2 weeks and torrential rain since I had it, no leaks at all. Took my freedom tops off for the first time. Put them back on, leaking out of my drivers side now. Setup an appointment with the dealer to hopefully fix it the first time.

It has been hit an miss with my Jeeps. 00 leaked at the bottom of the passenger door. '12 leaked on the passenger side freedom top. 85 and 03 never leaked once.
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I have a 2014 JKU that would dribble onto the dash just above the radio after a hard rain the first time I would apply the brakes. The local dealer was able to fix that under warranty. I also had an experience where it did puddle on the drivers side front and rear floorboard after a heavy rain. It had never done that before unless I just didn't notice it. Again the dealer replaced the door seals under warranty and that has not happened since.
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my 2016 Wrangler leaked. was swapped with a 2017. my 2017 leaks. soon to get a 3rd leak repair attempt and have a total of 34 days out of service. the question is...do I want to lemon the jeep and try a 3rd or walk and try the JL when it comes out
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Took my freedom tops off for the first time. Put them back on, leaking out of my drivers side now.
My '16 hard top has never leaked. But, right now it's completely topless for the first time.

I've had some concern about whether or not it will leak when I put everything back on. Your post doesn't ease my mind
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My '16 hard top has never leaked. But, right now it's completely topless for the first time.

I've had some concern about whether or not it will leak when I put everything back on. Your post doesn't ease my mind
If you put the freedom panels in correctly (lift, not slide them in) and you didn't have any leaks before, you should be fine. Taking the hard top off completely is a no issue leakng wise, it drops right back on exactly as how it came off.
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On the trip home from the dealer when I first picked it up, we got in a torrential storm for a good party of the drive (dealer is two hours away). Had the hardtop on, no leaks at all.

Two weeks later, I swapped the tops. Three days later, we had several days off extremely rainy, stormy weather. No leaks with the premium soft top either. I still hold my breath every time I refasten the sunrider clips, but so far, so good.

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2016 2dr soft top (with factory half doors).
Top has been up and down numerous times over the past year.
Just started parking outside while we've had weeks straight of rain.
Both front footwells are soaked.
Water comes in down the A pillars and into the footwells.
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If you put the freedom panels in correctly (lift, not slide them in) and you didn't have any leaks before, you should be fine. Taking the hard top off completely is a no issue leakng wise, it drops right back on exactly as how it came off.
I had more than enough information to know how to put them in "correctly", not to mention experience with my '12. Mine still leaked.

Just be carefully in removing, storing and putting them back on, it is the best you can do.
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i strongly believe that the reason the Jeeps are leaking from the door areas (not talking about the other types of leaks related to plugs etc) is mainly due to alignment problems with the freedom panels, the windshield frame, the body of the Jeep itself and the door. there are so many factors and variables, with tolerances that stack and compound which result in the leaking. the solution to fixing water leaks, from Jeep's perspective, is almost never to address the root cause of the leak but rather address the symptoms. their process map doesn't go deep enough with most of the repairs focused on replacing
and adding weather strip foam, reinforcing gaskets, and adjust the door inwards. great. so the leak is stopped with some sticky tape foam, shoving material inside of the door gasket, and pulling the door inwards. now the door is very difficult to close, but the leak is stopped. according to Jeep's process map...this is job well done and acceptable. the next step once the leak is stopped should be to determine WHY this has to be done to seal the vehicle. what is not aligned? 3 of my doors close normally, the front passenger one has to be physically slammed so hard that it shakes the fender making a loud metallic clunk/ping noise. the only way to stop my leak, according to my dealer, was to installed home depot-like door strip foam along the freedom panel itself. to them, it's a job well done. however it doesn't address the root cause. why isn't the door making good contact with the freedom panel? is the door not made to spec? there is only so much gasket stuffing you can do to account for that. is my freedom panel not molded to spec? is it warped? dealer doesn't care, dealer thinks the problem is solved.

weatherstripping is temporary. i have to replace weather stripping every few months b/c it peels off again due to the rubbing of the door gasket. if Jeep/Chrysler cared, they would take a Jeep that doesn't leak and compare it to a Jeep that does leak and figure out what the differences are. if the idiots at Chrysler can't see what the differences are with their eyes, then get an AIE CMM machine on a robot arm and take some measurements and figure out where the misalignment is and correct the fixture rigs at Toledo. but of course they don't give a shit...just add more weather stripping
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My 2013 leaked when I got it from around the doors. They have some "round foam stock" that they slip into the door seals to stiffen them. These days I've got the doors on and off, the top is up and down all the time, and the door surrounds on and off -
I removed the carpet and consider it part of the fun. With this many bits and pieces going on and off all the time and so many little rubber and foam seals to wear out - there's no way mine won't leak eventually.
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I had more than enough information to know how to put them in "correctly", not to mention experience with my '12. Mine still leaked.

Just be carefully in removing, storing and putting them back on, it is the best you can do.
I'm just saying if he didn't have any leaks prior to taking off the hard top, then re-installing it correctly (freedom tops included) should not change anything, he should still have no leaks.
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2014. Top and doors never removed. Freedom tops removed once (the first day) and carefully replaced.

Random and inconsistent leaks at both A pillars. Sometimes very heavy rain and no leaks sometimes it leaks in light rain.

Luckily I live in So Cal so it's not really an issue. I have slush mats and worst I get is a little water on top of the mat.
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2014. Top and doors never removed. Freedom tops removed once (the first day) and carefully replaced.

Random and inconsistent leaks at both A pillars. Sometimes very heavy rain and no leaks sometimes it leaks in light rain.

Luckily I live in So Cal so it's not really an issue. I have slush mats and worst I get is a little water on top of the mat.
Very, very common. The water gets behind the door seals at the top corner of the A pillar as it drains off the roof and the roof drip rail.

One thing I found. Installing a Trektop NX or even a Trektop Glide pretty much eliminates that leak. Both those tops have a little extra material at the front corners that sticks out just enough to divert the water away from that top corner. The water runs down the outside of the door/window as it should. Just an FYI for anyone interested.
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Just had car at dealer they changed all 4 seals on vehicle door and top
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Good to hear. But not a car...
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I made this video about my water leaks last November and it has already gotten like 15k views since just last November. So yeah, leaking JK's are very common.

The good news is, it is usually cheaply fixable if you are willing to do a little debugging work yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LStAlKjynNs
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