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Old 01-13-2020, 12:49 PM
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what are people using for rear brakes?

Hi all, I am curious to find out what people are using to replace factory brakes? I have not added much weight to my 2 door jk my rear brakes and rotors are about wore out at 43k.

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I'm running Powerstop Z36 all the way around. Improvement over stock, IMO, but not the same as a big brake kit. If you can afford to do it, I would reccomend big brake kit. This will leave you room for bigger tires, added weight, etc down the road.

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rear brakes do go out faster than the fronts on JK's.
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Yup. Got the 09 at 56k. Replaced my fronts at 95k. Rears around 115k. At 178k and going on my third set of pads since.
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I've got the Teraflex big rotor kit. Very happy with it, larger rotor and new caliper bracket. Running a nice Centric semi metallic pad.
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Powerstop drilled & slotted..
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Last summer I replaced all of the brake pads with the Raybestos Enhanced Hybrid Technology pads. They are supposed to combine the best attributes of ceramic and semi-metallic pads. I have been very happy with them. I had Wagner pads before and the Raybestos stop my Jeep noticeably better. They are $44.77 on Amazon for the rear. I also replaced all of the rotors with Centric rotors.

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I'm running Powerstop Z36 all the way around. Improvement over stock, IMO, but not the same as a big brake kit. If you can afford to do it, I would reccomend big brake kit. This will leave you room for bigger tires, added weight, etc down the road.

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I run PowerStop all around pads and rotors; I do not run slotted or drilled, just the plain rotors.
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Dynatrac progrips.
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Too, just recently saw on Quadtratec's website that Powerstop is coming out with a big brake kit. Similarly priced to the Dynatracs. I'm planning on going with the Dynatracs later this year but may give the Powerstop kit consideration.

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I looking at the power stop kit for the rear, the one with the drilled rotors, Would it look weird with drilled rotors in the back and factory ones in the front?
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I looking at the power stop kit for the rear, the one with the drilled rotors, Would it look weird with drilled rotors in the back and factory ones in the front?
Most likely not. Probably only one that would really notice would be you. Then, you can always add the fronts down the road.

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Too, just recently saw on Quadtratec's website that Powerstop is coming out with a big brake kit. Similarly priced to the Dynatracs. I'm planning on going with the Dynatracs later this year but may give the Powerstop kit consideration.

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G2 has a set also, I picked up the rears from Quadratec, $500 all in, to the door. 14:25" rotors Only have about 2K, 6 weeks on them, but no premature rust , smooth, machined and finished well. Just a heads up, I had really poor results with the previous purchased TF product. Rusted the first time I washed the jeep and they were not machined properly for the retention clips. Plus they are smaller diameter rotors.
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I'll be going with Black Magic Brakes... either their standard kit or the BBK. BBM is owned by Blaine who is not only a brake wizard, but also a TJ guru and is probably one of the most knowledgeable members on the design of the Wranglers. I'd trust and support him over any big name brand. He mainly sources premium pads and rotors from Centric if you're curious.
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My brake improvements, chronologically:
- Hawk LTS rear pads- huge difference over stock
- Teraflex front BBK, with TF pads- much better stopping distance
- Hawk LTS front and rear- even better than TF pads (and a lot less dust)
- Rear braided lines- slightly less pedal mush
- J8 master and booster- no more pedal mush at all
- Teraflex rear BBK- relieved the front dipping, now "squats"
- Front braided lines- with everything else, now brakes like a good car.


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My JKU's mileage (rounded):
2007: 85,000
2012: 95,000
2016: 91,000
Never had to replace pads front or back. If they had to be replaced at +/- 45,000 miles I might not have bought my 2018.
Do you ever drive off without releasing your parking brake? I used to do that on a couple of Dodge minivans and had to buy rear pad at about 50k-60k miles.
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Dynatrac progrips.
Same. They still only last 20k miles and at 40k replaced the rotors too.
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Hi all, I am curious to find out what people are using to replace factory brakes? I have not added much weight to my 2 door jk my rear brakes and rotors are about wore out at 43k.
Typical mileage. The Powerstop Z36 pads work well and are low cost.
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I'll be going with Black Magic Brakes... either their standard kit or the BBK. BBM is owned by Blaine who is not only a brake wizard, but also a TJ guru and is probably one of the most knowledgeable members on the design of the Wranglers. I'd trust and support him over any big name brand. He mainly sources premium pads and rotors from Centric if you're curious.

Interesting that his BBK is front only for the JK?

Everyone says the JKs main braking force is in the rear?

Im still reading through his website, Im looking for info on why front only. Ill send him an email if I dont find anything on the website talking about JK brake systems, unless someone knows this kit and can explain his reasoning for front only?

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Massive 13.25 diameter Centric Premium Rotors
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In September of '19 I put Powerstop Z36 front and back on my JKUR. I noticed a pretty substantial difference in stopping performance. I believe I got them on Quadratec for like $360 (they're listed at $339.99 as of right now) and had them in less than 36 hours after order. As of November when I totaled that Rubi there was no noticeable rust or anything on the rotors and they still looked new. I also noticed less brake dust on my wheels.
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Interesting that his BBK is front only for the JK?

Everyone says the JKs main braking force is in the rear?

Im still reading through his website, Im looking for info on why front only. Ill send him an email if I dont find anything on the website talking about JK brake systems, unless someone knows this kit and can explain his reasoning for front only?

I do like his BBK though:
Massive 13.25 diameter Centric Premium Rotors
New! Large 54mm Dual Piston Calipers with Hardware
JK Big Brake Kit Black Magic Brake Pads (1084)
New Mopar OEM Brake Master Cylinder
I don't think he's active on here to answer your question, but you can call/email him to clarify. That's sort of a selling point behind BMB, tech support from the wizard himself.

In my limited reading, I think the JK's ebrake setup immediately keeps us from running that much of a larger rotor in the back. The cost to benefit ratio just may not be there for most.

It seems a front BBK and upgraded rear pasds helps balance out the braking system overall and reduce how fast the rear wears compared to factory.
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Interesting that his BBK is front only for the JK?

Everyone says the JKs main braking force is in the rear?

Im still reading through his website, Im looking for info on why front only. Ill send him an email if I dont find anything on the website talking about JK brake systems, unless someone knows this kit and can explain his reasoning for front only?

I do like his BBK though:
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JK Big Brake Kit Black Magic Brake Pads (1084)
New Mopar OEM Brake Master Cylinder
When you stomp on the brake pedal the front brakes are doing more of the work than the rear brakes. That is the way the system works stock, and most aftermarket systems keep it that way. The weight of the vehicle transfer to the front wheels when you are hard on the brakes, so the front brakes can do more of the braking than the rears.
But some people see that the rear brake pads wear out faster than the fronts and they take that to mean the rear brakes are doing more work. The rear brake pads do wear out faster than the fronts, but that is not because they provide more of the stopping power. It is likely because the modern traction control and brake lock differential systems use the rear brakes to control wheel spin.
If you want the best improvement in braking you will increase both the front and rear brakes together. And there are systems that do that. Some just increase the rotor size. That is where most of the increase in braking force is. Some also add larger calipers with corresponding larger pads. That does increase the amount of braking force that can be generated. But that opens a can of worms where the balance between the master cylinder, the front calipers, and the rear calipers, needs to be maintained to get maximum braking performance.
The majority of increase is easy to get by replacing the rotors with larger rotors. The gains with new calipers are lower and require additional work to install and expense to purchase. For a Jeep there isn't a need for larger calipers for most of us.
I will say big calipers do look cool, though.
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Just replaced the rears this weekend. Same as others Z36 Powerstop kit. Also went drilled and slotted, just cause that was the kit and I don't offroad right now. I have the fronts waiting, but not changing those till the weather warms up.
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When you stomp on the brake pedal the front brakes are doing more of the work than the rear brakes. That is the way the system works stock, and most aftermarket systems keep it that way. The weight of the vehicle transfer to the front wheels when you are hard on the brakes, so the front brakes can do more of the braking than the rears.
But some people see that the rear brake pads wear out faster than the fronts and they take that to mean the rear brakes are doing more work. The rear brake pads do wear out faster than the fronts, but that is not because they provide more of the stopping power. It is likely because the modern traction control and brake lock differential systems use the rear brakes to control wheel spin.
If you want the best improvement in braking you will increase both the front and rear brakes together. And there are systems that do that. Some just increase the rotor size. That is where most of the increase in braking force is. Some also add larger calipers with corresponding larger pads. That does increase the amount of braking force that can be generated. But that opens a can of worms where the balance between the master cylinder, the front calipers, and the rear calipers, needs to be maintained to get maximum braking performance.
The majority of increase is easy to get by replacing the rotors with larger rotors. The gains with new calipers are lower and require additional work to install and expense to purchase. For a Jeep there isn't a need for larger calipers for most of us.
I will say big calipers do look cool, though.
I think the computer balances the system well based on what the wheel sensors are inputting. Jeeps have larger rear rotors than the fronts from the factory which is not the usual with most vehicles. For about 25K miles I ran same diameter rotors front and rear by mistake on my part and all functions seemed to perform fine (13"). I'm currently running the mopar front bbk kit "rotors caliper, mc, booster" and the bbk g2 14.25 rear dimpled rotors. Stops well. The next upgrade if I ever do upgrade further will be the BAER 14+ pro 6 piston calipers front and rear with the non-slotted, non- drilled, vented two piece rotors. Another $4k for that. I'm not sure how much performance gain I will feel. $4k worth? Probably not. I'm spoiled with my wife's new M40I BMW. It just clamps down and halts. It has a much larger rotor surface area and corresponding larger pads I assume, multi pistons too. Different animals of course, but as an auto enthusiast I'm always trying to improve my vehicles.
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Dynatrac front and rear BBK next week.
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Dynatrac progrips front and back. Although the fronts are squeaky currently!


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My JKU's mileage (rounded):
2007: 85,000
2012: 95,000
2016: 91,000
Never had to replace pads front or back. If they had to be replaced at +/- 45,000 miles I might not have bought my 2018.

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Perhaps check with your podiatrist....

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I have had good results on 2 different Jeeps with Hawk pads. Better braking compared to stock.
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