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39x12.5 kanati mud hog 0 0%
39x13.5 bfgoodrich km/3 12 36.36%
40x13.5 nitto trail grappler 3 9.09%
40x13.5 gladiator x comp 0 0%
40x13.5 cooper stt pro 8 24.24%
40x13.5 mickey thompson baja mtz p3 1 3.03%
40x13.5 patagonia milestar mt 6 18.18%
41.5x13.5 pitbull radial rocker 3 9.09%
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what tire do you think is best?

im having a hard time picking out a set of tires from all the choices so i figured i would have a poll here as to what M/T tire you would pick and if you have run one or more of them and could give a comparison or a review of the tire your running, i would GREATLY appreciate it!

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I’m partial to nitro. But lite brite has shown those milestars do work!

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Iím partial to nitro. But lite brite has shown those milestars do work!

but at the same time, i have seen Kevin long do some amazing things on his 40" nittos too! i do like how quite the milestars should be on the road though!
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Price point is good on the Pats along with weight.

Been running the Patagonias and will consider them again for the next set. Decent wear, they are starting to make some noise with 20k miles on them. They are great off road, mund and rock, although I notice a bit of side slide in the snow, probably because the butt is heavy on the Jeep.
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Iíve run Coopers, Dunlopís, ProComp Xtreme MT, Duratracs and Pitbulls. Iíve witnessed first hand how Falkens, MTRs, Irocs, Kellyís, Hercules, and Nitto Mud grapplers work and handle.
Overall Pitbulls will always be my hands down favorite...
Yes they are noisy on the highway, you are certainly not sneaking up on anyone. They are heavy and they are tough. Rotate them often and run the proper pressure and they wear well. Money well spent IMO. Bonus around here, after I put 70,000+ Klm on a set of 5 Pitbulls I still have enough tread to sell them used for someone else who canít afford new ones so they can enjoy them for awhile.


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im having a hard time picking out a set of tires from all the choices so i figured i would have a poll here as to what M/T tire you would pick and if you have run one or more of them and could give a comparison or a review of the tire your running, i would GREATLY appreciate it!


Okay, Iíll ask. For what?
Where do you spend most of your time?
Sand?
Snow?
Rocks?
Ninety-percent dry blacktop?
Unless youíre driving a grocery-getter it matters.

I sold a set of Duratracs that came on my Ď89 YJ because they went with the fancy 18Ē wheels (that didnít belong on my YJ).
I replaced them with black steel wheels and went with the Kenda Klever MTís.
I went with the MTís because my boys and I spend some time out alone getting to favorite hunting/fishing spots. I also added a M-8000 on the front.

Everything was great. Then it snowed.

As soon as I can get rid of the MTís my old Jeep will wear nothing but Duratracs for as long as they make them.
As a side note, the Duratracs also went just fine in the mud and was much quieter on the road.
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my jku is my daily currently, but i care about 90% of how it works when on the rocks, dirt and mud and the other 10% of when its on the road with snow and ice, even though its 90% road that it see's, i prioritize the offroad traction over tread wear and on road performance, because that one time i need the trction offroad, i WANT the traction to be THERE.
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While I do love nitto tires....I did alot of comparing in the weight department.....for the 40's the cooper stt's are 14 pounds lighter than the nitto's....the stt's have quite the following....I couldn't find the specs on the Pat's yet but all 5 tires combined that's 71 pounds difference....just a thought....
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my thought on the whole weight thing of tires, is that the heavier the tire in the same sizes, the tougher it should be, and thats also more weight as low on the vehicle as possible to help stability in off camber situations, and it can also have a negative effect on being able to balance them. not so worried about the hp to turn them since im not drag racing and dont need the tires to accelerate quick anyways. although, more weight means more axle shaft stress if the tires start hopping, and more unsprung weight when the suspension is working, so more stress on the shocks as well.



nitto=104lbs/stt pro=92lbs/milestar=88lbs/km3=88lbs/x comp=98lbs/mtz p3=91lbs/pitbull=118lbs!/mud hog=85lbs



that being said, i LOVED the traction my stt pro's had! the only vehicle i couldnt follow was a wonton yj on 40" nittos, and thats mostly because he wasnt afraid of rolling his jeep, and partly i think due to the weight difference of his ms my fully loaded jku.


i just keep looking at the sidewall nubs on the 40" nitto and keep thinking when aired down, thats a whole-nother 1-2" of tread grabbing traction and sidewall protection!


im so damn torn right now! for the price of the mud hogs-$1350 vs the $1700-milestars i could almost cover the dynatrac ball joints i need! or there is the $2050 nittos that i know work, or the $1900 coopers......
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I love my Nitto Trail Grapplers. Amazing on the rocks and dirt - which is what we have most of here in Phoenix. Relatively quiet for an MT on pavement. So-so in mud, but I despise mud anyhow and do whatever I can to avoid it lol.

What a big heavy wide MT is NOT good for - Nitto or any other brand - snow and ice.
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I love my Nitto Trail Grapplers. Amazing on the rocks and dirt - which is what we have most of here in Phoenix. Relatively quiet for an MT on pavement. So-so in mud, but I despise mud anyhow and do whatever I can to avoid it lol.

What a big heavy wide MT is NOT good for - Nitto or any other brand - snow and ice.

my last set of coopers were AMAZING in the snow and ice!
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I ordered five Duratecs through DT last night for my '15 Willys. I was surprised at how in my area the options seemed to be somewhat limited for OEM sizing (DFW). Mine is overwhelmingly highway/local streets with less mileage per year now that I'm retired.
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decided to order the psc steering setup instead of tires for the moment, but as soon as i sell my snowmobile, tires are next on the list, so keep it coming!
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I have always had good luck with BFGs over the years. I have no idea if theyíre the best but I really like my KM3s.
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Well... I'm committed. I getting the Nitto Ridge Grapplers tomorrow. I'll post photos and let you have an initial impression tomorrow.

Edited to say that the OEM MTs on this Rubicon served me very well. After 85,000 miles they still look like this.

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I bet youíll be happy with them. nittoís were already on my Ď16 JKUR when I bought it @ 18k miles. Now have 37k and they still look great so the wear has been very good. Off road they have been awesome. I can feel the extra weight when breaking and BBK will be the next upgrade. Got to be able to stop those big heavy tires.
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I'm very happy with them. I do notice the extra weight though. Slower to accelerate. Slower to stop. The real speed vs the speedometer changed by 4-5 mph. The Jeep is actually 4-5 mph faster now than the speedo indicates.

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That 41.5 Pit Bull is probably 4" taller than the 39 BFG....

Such a big swing in popularity for the Patagonia's. Not much bad press other than people that won't buy a tire that's not from one of the big brands. I've got a set on the JK and putting a set on the LJ.
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My son is running 40" Maxxis Razr MT-772s on his JK and swears by them. Excellent road manners even at 75 mph and dead quiet believe it or not. They also work as good off-road as another brand that happens to sponsor his race buggy. Just another option to think about.
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Got the DuraTrac's today and my wife even commented that she can feel a difference after getting back in town from Turkey Day with her family and our heading directly to our TexMex hangout.
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I just put a set of 35x12.5-17 Ironman M/T tires on mine. For under a $790 mounted and balanced it's hard to beat them. They have been pretty good tires so far. I have a couple buddies that run them and they love them. Had a opportunity to run them in the rain and they did awesome. My buddies got over 40,000 miles out of theirs.

My other set I had was BFG K02 all terrains. Absolutely loved them as well. They were the best tire out of Geolander M/t and Nitto M/Ts that I had before in a 35. If not for such a great price on the Ironmans I would have another set of the BFG K02s. Not a fan of Nittos, only got about 24,000 miles out of the M/Ts. About 35,000 out of the Geolander M/Ts.
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I like some lug on my tires for clay and snow. But you wonít hear me say they are quiet. The first sign of a tire with aggressive tread that really works well is the noise they make on the road.


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I just put a set of 35x12.5-17 Ironman M/T tires on mine. For under a $790 mounted and balanced it's hard to beat them. They have been pretty good tires so far. I have a couple buddies that run them and they love them. Had a opportunity to run them in the rain and they did awesome. My buddies got over 40,000 miles out of theirs.

My other set I had was BFG K02 all terrains. Absolutely loved them as well. They were the best tire out of Geolander M/t and Nitto M/Ts that I had before in a 35. If not for such a great price on the Ironmans I would have another set of the BFG K02s. Not a fan of Nittos, only got about 24,000 miles out of the M/Ts. About 35,000 out of the Geolander M/Ts.

unfortunately, they dont make a 40" ironman tire. not to mention i got a sidewall hole on a smooth tree root with them, so i want some with a thicker sidewall.
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I like some lug on my tires for clay and snow. But you wonít hear me say they are quiet. The first sign of a tire with aggressive tread that really works well is the noise they make on the road.


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I can't really agree with this statement. Over the years I've had way too many tires that were deafening on pavement that were useless off-road. A lot of those designs no longer exist for this very reason. As I mentioned earlier, the Maxxis Razr backs up what I'm saying here.
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I can't really agree with this statement. Over the years I've had way too many tires that were deafening on pavement that were useless off-road. A lot of those designs no longer exist for this very reason. As I mentioned earlier, the Maxxis Razr backs up what I'm saying here.
Agree. If they are loud as hell, the compound is likely very hard. At any rate, I have been at this 25 years now and this has been by far the best tire I have ever run. Its soft, it isn't loud, it rides real cushiony, its siped so its magical in snow and ice plus big voids so great mud tire too. They also excel on the rocks. Just fantastic traction and tough as nails too. The downside is that they aren't cheap and they aren't going to last you 50k miles. Interco TrXus MT. I currently run them in the 37" flavor.


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what tire do you think is best?

Depends on what conditions you wheel in. For Rocks many different tread designs can do well I will agree with you there. But not in mud, clay and deep snow. The noisier they are the more aggressive the pattern and the better ability to self clean. 40+ years experience in mud, clay and snow on all size rigs.
Soft mud tires are just as noisy as hard rubber tires. Most of the noise comes from the broken up center line of the tire where most of the vehicle weight is usually concentrated then from the side lugs or paddles.


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Depends on what conditions you wheel in. For Rocks many different tread designs can do well I will agree with you there. But not in mud, clay and deep snow. The noisier they are the more aggressive the pattern and the better ability to self clean. 40+ years experience in mud, clay and snow on all size rigs.
Soft mud tires are just as noisy as hard rubber tires. Most of the noise comes from the broken up center line of the tire where most of the vehicle weight is usually concentrated then from the side lugs or paddles.


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Sorry but I still can't agree. Personally, I'm an old mudder, so to speak and in reality also. Started out off-roading for the purpose of hunting in the late 60s to early 70s. Late 70s is when mud run competitions started and we all lost our minds with big tires and the horsepower to turn them and we still drove these same rigs on the roads. This is how my son got started also but along came rock crawling and away he went as the pic of his last buggy below shows so yes we do have a bit of experience as a family ourselves. I need to dig up some old pics of my serious mudding days. 78 Ramcharger on 44s with a blown 440 for power was one of them.

The softer the compound the better no matter the surface you're trying to traverse. Softer stuff grips rocks but it also allows the tread to flex which is one of the major factors in how a tire cleans itself. The big downside to soft compound tires is their lack of longevity both on and off road. A real off-roader (as I suspect the OP to be) generally couldn't care less about road noise but in most cases we drive the same vehicles on the road as off-road so we need to find a happy medium that suits all our needs.
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