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Old 02-06-2015, 10:01 AM
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Wheel Spacer safety wiring?

I am looking at the possibility of installing spacers soon. One of the big concerns with them seems to be loosening. I was wondering if there is a company that makes a spacer that is set up to be safety wired, or has anyone performed a DIY safety wire job on their spacers?

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Old 02-06-2015, 10:58 AM   #2
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Nothing beats inspection. At each tire rotation the spacers need to be physically inspected. If you use loctite and they are properly installed and seated you should be just fine. Many here subscribe to the thought that if they are installed at 90# with a torque wrench then upon inspecting you set the wrench for say 75# if they move then you need to reinstall with loctite.

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OP, you did remove the retaining clips from the studs, right? The factory wheels have indentations to accommodate them but spacers do not. They will not allow the spacer to seat against hub and it will come loose. Those MUST be removed. Check out the video link:

TeraFlex Install: Wheel Offset Adapters - YouTube

I ran spacers for over six months. Checked torque several times and they were always as tight as the day I installed them.
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I do understand that. I'm not looking for a way to get out of regular hands/eyes on inspection at regular intervals. I'm just looking for that extra peace of mind. With the spacers being out of sight, more frequent (daily, or even weekly) visual inspections are not likely to happen. I am willing to go thru the extra trouble safety wire will add at every rotation for the added sense of security.

The problem is that the spacers I have seen appear to be flat all the way around. There is no way to route the safety wire from lug to lug.
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I dont see how it would be even possible to safety wire them.
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They would have to be designed specifically for that, and AFAIK there are none made that allow for safety wire. It would be a nice feature.

Just using some paint to make witness marks on the lugs would save a lot of time when it comes to the inspections.
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They would have to be designed specifically for that, and AFAIK there are none made that allow for safety wire. It would be a nice feature.

Just using some paint to make witness marks on the lugs would save a lot of time when it comes to the inspections.
This is what I did - two checks so far and no movement after 10k miles.
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i had spacers on for over a year and not one nut ever loosened up, not even a little...

and besides, your doing 40+ down a street and that tire pops off you think a wire is really gonna stop it?
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OP, you did remove the retaining clips from the studs, right? The factory wheels have indentations to accommodate them but spacers do not. They will not allow the spacer to seat against hub and it will come loose. Those MUST be removed. Check out the video link:

TeraFlex Install: Wheel Offset Adapters - YouTube

I ran spacers for over six months. Checked torque several times and they were always as tight as the day I installed them.
I have not installed any spacers yet. Thanks for the vid, will come in useful if I do decide to go with spacers.

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They would have to be designed specifically for that, and AFAIK there are none made that allow for safety wire. It would be a nice feature.

Just using some paint to make witness marks on the lugs would save a lot of time when it comes to the inspections.
I don't think it would take much to design, or redesign, a set for safety wire. Seems like all you would need is a shallow groove from lug hole to lug hole, routed around the studs, for the wire to lay in. Drilling the lugs should be simple enough. With that being placed in writing let me finish by saying I'm not confident in it enough to carry a set to a machine shop to be altered and then put them on my Jeep. Was hoping for something tried and tested.

Paint marks are a good idea to assist in the visual inspection, but I guess I'm hoping to find something that is more "preventative" than that.
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Yeah... Make sure you check them so they don't fall off, ask me how I know :P
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and besides, your doing 40+ down a street and that tire pops off you think a wire is really gonna stop it?
That is what it's there for and yes it works.
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i had spacers on for over a year and not one nut ever loosened up, not even a little... and besides, your doing 40+ down a street and that tire pops off you think a wire is really gonna stop it?
I'm not sure you understand the concept. There is no wire holding the spacer or wheel. The safety wire would be placed on all lug nuts mounting the spacer. When wired properly, any lug that begins to loosen will tighten the one it is wired to. A pic is worth a thousand words.
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The added safety measure can't hurt but it is not necessary. You can also use Loctite Blue 242. As long as you inspect and more importantly retorque the spacers they are safe to use.
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If the company that made the spacers designed for it, I would think something like the Stage 8 or ARP locking fasteners would solve this problem and give a lot of piece of mind to those using the spacers.
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If you're that worried about it just buy new wheels. It sounds like it will always be on your mind.
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if you're that worried about it just buy new wheels. It sounds like it will always be on your mind.
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It seems that if you had the right thickness of lug nuts, they would not be able to come off because the wheel would block them from backing off much, they may loosen but not come off. Does that make any sense?

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