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Old 11-10-2019, 02:03 PM
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Which shocks would provide a ride closest to a nice SUV?

Looking to replace the shocks on my JK and my wife hates how bouncy the Jeep is. I get it will never ride like a Cadillac Escalade and that's fine, but hoping to get something closer to that vs a dune buggy as it can make her a bit motion sick with the current shocks.

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I’d say Rancho 9000s and turn them all the way down to “geezer glide”.

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I’d say Rancho 9000s and turn them all the way down to “geezer glide”.
Do you know which model I would get for a JK without a lift?

It looks like the RS999326 for the front and RS999328 for the rear, is that right?
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What tire pressure are you running? That makes a big difference as well. If you are completely stock with stock size tires, you could easily get down in the mid to low 30 psi range. That will help dramatically if you are higher than that.

Other than that, I am no help. Mine isn't stock and I run Bilsteins. They are very firm. My 37's run 26 psi on the street.
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IMO most people get this wrong. It is not just a shock question the spring also needs to be taken into account. A heavy spring well not suck up the bumps and with a light shock dampning and rebound are not well controlled. You end up with a bouncy ride. On the other hand a light spring with with a stiff shock means all the bumps a soaked up and dampning and rebound are well controlled.

I think Rancho 9000 are good call but I would also look at what springs you have under there and think about going to a lighter set. You might lose just a little height but it looks like you are stock so I would not worry about it.
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What tire pressure are you running? That makes a big difference as well. If you are completely stock with stock size tires, you could easily get down in the mid to low 30 psi range. That will help dramatically if you are higher than that.

Other than that, I am no help. Mine isn't stock and I run Bilsteins. They are very firm. My 37's run 26 psi on the street.
Running 285/70/17 KO2's at 32. Ran stock SRA between 32-35 and the ride feels the same, bumpy as hell.
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IMO most people get this wrong. It is not just a shock question the spring also needs to be taken into account. A heavy spring well not suck up the bumps and with a light shock dampning and rebound are not well controlled. You end up with a bouncy ride. On the other hand a light spring with with a stiff shock means all the bumps a soaked up and dampning and rebound are well controlled.

I think Rancho 9000 are good call but I would also look at what springs you have under there and think about going to a lighter set. You might lose just a little height but it looks like you are stock so I would not worry about it.
Might try shocks first and then consider springs after, I only have 44k miles on it so I would assume the springs are fine, but perhaps not?
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What tire pressure are you running? That makes a big difference as well. If you are completely stock with stock size tires, you could easily get down in the mid to low 30 psi range. That will help dramatically if you are higher than that.

Other than that, I am no help. Mine isn't stock and I run Bilsteins. They are very firm. My 37's run 26 psi on the street.
What do you mean when you say firm? I see this described often and I'm not really sure what that means in terms of what it feels like to drive.
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Might try shocks first and then consider springs after, I only have 44k miles on it so I would assume the springs are fine, but perhaps not?
The springs are fine but there are many different combination that Jeep uses when setting up our vehicles. Front springs go from 13-19 and rears 53-60 if I remember right. Something to keep in mind and if you get the 9000's it will work with the lower springs as well. Just something to put in your back pocket.

FYI: These spring are a dime a dozen so they are not very expensive. In fact you might be able to score the lower ones for free.
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Shocks and springs work best when they agree on weight.
With my set-up, I don't get a cozy ride until I've got about 400 pounds of gear on board. That's my trade-off for the way I recreate.

If you're stock, go down to about 32 psi and put a sandbag in back.
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Trade it in for a Yukon
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Trade it in for a Yukon
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A JK will never “ride like a nice SUV” because of the short wheelbase
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If you want it to ride like an SUV on the freeway you can expect it to bottom out when you are going through the desert. For an SUV ride just get a good twin tube oil filled shock. For the best ride, don't lift it, maybe 1 inch spacers. Don't ever expect it to ride like something with independent suspension at all 4.
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As the members above stated, there are a lot of factors in ride quality. If you want to spend money and have a great over all setup... go coilovers. If not Id say do your research and piece together a suspension set up vs buying a specific setup from one company.
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If you want it to ride like an SUV on the freeway you can expect it to bottom out when you are going through the desert. For an SUV ride just get a good twin tube oil filled shock. For the best ride, don't lift it, maybe 1 inch spacers. Don't ever expect it to ride like something with independent suspension at all 4.
So would the shocks recommended earlier be a good way to go since they are adjustable?
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As the members above stated, there are a lot of factors in ride quality. If you want to spend money and have a great over all setup... go coilovers. If not Id say do your research and piece together a suspension set up vs buying a specific setup from one company.
Do you not think the rancho 9000s will make a noticeable difference?
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I have no opinion on Rancho products, just not a fan.
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I would say try the shocks, play with the different adjustments (find a nice bumpy road to drive over and over again everytime you adjust) and see if that helps/fixes it. If it doesn't your not out too much money by going with the Rancho's and you can move on to other things.
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I would say try the shocks, play with the different adjustments (find a nice bumpy road to drive over and over again everytime you adjust) and see if that helps/fixes it. If it doesn't your not out too much money by going with the Rancho's and you can move on to other things.
Pulled trigger on rancho, thanks for advice everyone.
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I recently added the Rancho shocks. On the softest setting it does feel very nice and cushy, but it won't corner on the highway curves we have and wants to pull into the next lane. On the firmest setting it drives very well on the highway curves, but is much harsher on the city streets with bumps or potholes. Load down the Jeep on the firmest setting and it becomes an nicer ride again though. It's going to take some time to adjust it, play with the settings awhile. Mine was also set on a 4-5 setting when I got the shocks new, so expect them to be in the middle setting somewhere.
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I have run Rancho shocks. They are a good value shock for the money. They are not high quality shocks, though. And as such you can't expect them to perform like a high quality shock. High quality shocks are able to control the ride (be firm) while not being harsh over bumps (be soft). The dampening in a Rancho shock is not that sophisticated and can't be both firm and soft at the same time. But Rancho shocks are cheap enough that they are often worth a try. And they seem to stand behind them pretty well, except when it comes to rust. So try them, you might like them. But I suggest you give them a few coats of quality spray paint, even if it is clear. Because the original factory coating has a habit of rusting through.
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What load range are your tires? A firm sidewall can also make for a harsh ride.
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Running 285/70/17 KO2's at 32. Ran stock SRA between 32-35 and the ride feels the same, bumpy as hell.

I run 285/70/17 at 28psi, with Rancho 2" dual rate springs, 9000 series shocks (set at 2 front/3 rear), and Core 4x4 LCA's........it rides and drives much better than when it rolled off the dealership lot.
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Wrangler suspensions are not conducive to "comfort". Honestly, if you want offroading capability but want to keep the wife happy, it's time to trade for a Grand Cherokee. I would have said Land Rover, but that gets wicked expensive quick.
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I think the 9000XL's will be a good start. The stock shocks have a very loose feeling low speed damping. That allows a lot of wallow and roll when going around corners, etc. If you go through a ditch at an angle, the Jeep will rock back and forth multiple times. When my Sahara was stock I literally made someone sick from the way it felt.

Upgraded shocks, almost any brand, will have a huge improvement in roll control and feel. Even the 9000XL on 1 has more control than stock shocks. Around 3 it's a good balance and 5 and above is sportscar'ish...

Not much improvement by going down in spring numbers, the rates don't change enough to be worth it.

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Super helpful.
It is super helpful. Its the same as the guys asking "can I fit a JL dash in my JK" or "will the JL grill for my JK". Buy a JL if you want to look like a JL.

Jeeps are intended to go offroad, thus their ride quality on road is compromised compared to the mall crawler, tanning salon, soccer mom driving SUV crowd. Wranglers are firmer, longer articulation, etc. Yukon's were not "intended" to go off road though they do come in 4wd flavor. Longer wheel base, proportionately heavier, completely different suspension geometry, etc.

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Just remember you get what you pay for, I do not have any experience with Rancho, but I would suggest Falcon 2.1s, I currently run 2.1s over the 3.3s. I have a chance with the 3.3s and realistically I never messed with the adjustments, the 2.1s are great as is. I saw you purchased the Ranchos but later on if you decide to upgrade definitely check out Falcon.
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Jeeps are intended to go offroad, thus their ride quality on road is compromised compared to the mall crawler, tanning salon, soccer mom driving SUV crowd. Wranglers are firmer, longer articulation, etc. Yukon's were not "intended" to go off road though they do come in 4wd flavor. Longer wheel base, proportionately heavier, completely different suspension geometry, etc.

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The Wrangler is not built for 70mph rolling down the highway
It will still do it just not well
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