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Old 04-15-2019, 05:05 PM
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05 TJ Wonít Turn Over

Could use a hand. My Jeep won’t turn over. I’ve checked fuses and battery cables. It never tries to start. Lights don’t dim. If I remove small control wire from solenoid and jump it to the positive wire she turns right over. Get zero response in neutral or park. Checked all the fuses. I swapped out what said starter relay in fuse box under hood with another with the same numbers. No dice. So basically I pullled up to the house and shut it off a couple of weeks ago and have not been able to move it since. I’m sure I could start it by jumping solenoid on starter. Just don’t care to do it while I’m under vehicle. So no power to the small wire to solenoid. Can someone point me in the right direction to trace that out or what to check?

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Actuator pin in ignition switch or park neutral switch


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Thanks for for the suggestion. Is there any way to test the actuator without taking it apart? I watched a few videos on replacement. Didn’t see any to dio. I thought about the neutral and park switches. But wanted to ask for suggestions on here first. Seems like the broken pin might be common. This place helped me tremendously when I started with a stock tj. It’s been lifted, regeared, bigger tires and wheels, transmission cooler a few other things. Really appreciate it thanks
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Automatic or manual transmission?
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Automatic.
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ďZero response in neutral or parkĒ
Pretty strong evidence for auto if it has a park position


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At least for early tj years on manual tranny they replace the park neutral switch with a jumper across the wires

Try that if then starts it is park neutral switch or its adjustment

If not go for actuator pin
Or test each switch (ignition and park neutral) with a test light or meter


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Try moving the shifter between Park & Neutral while holding the ignition switch in the Start position. If it starts while doing that it's likely either a stretched/out of adjustment shifter cable or a bad NSS/Neutral Safety Switch. If it still doesn't start, which is my guess that it will not, the problem is more likely a broken ignition switch actuator pin like at https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Probably won’t be able to check on it till this weekend. Thanks for the help in pointing me in the right direction to look. Will follow up later Thanks!
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I changed the actuator and it fired right up. Thanks!
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05 TJ Wonít Turn Over

Ok so Iím back to square one. Will not start again. Odd that I took it apart and changed actuator and it started right up. But now nothing. Just to tell you what Iíve done

Replaced actuator and switch itself. It did turn over when I turned switch with a screwdriver earlier as well but now wonít do anything

I can jump small wire on the starter solenoid and it will turn over but not start, even with key on.

Battery is fully charged, all fuses good. Swapped out starter relay with another with the same number. There is no power to ignition switch at pink and red wire. Iíve read that there should be. Tried placing transmission (auto) in all kinds of positions but canít get it to start again.

I hate to be a parts changer but thatís where Iím at. Have changed two parts to no avail. I purchased a neutral safety switch, feel dumb for saying this but I cant locate it on transmission.

Be grateful for any point in the right direction. Battery is 100 percent charged as well. Ready to get the top off and ride lol. Also when I changed actuator I couldnít see anything wrong with old one. But it started twice after changing it. Had to wait till the weekend before I could look at it again. Charged the battery in the mean time
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Iíve isolated the problem to no ground at starter relay. No ground to terminal 85. Iím able to run Jeep with key on if I jump 30 and 87 for starter. I get 12 volts to 86 but no ground. Can anyone offer any advise?

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