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Old 05-13-2015, 12:39 AM
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Calling all half door owners

Hey guys! I was wondering how many of you run half doors in the winter. Do you run them with soft uppers, hard uppers, NO UPPERS!? Are half doors extremely loud? Significantly colder in the winter? Drafty?

I am considering swapping my full doors for half doors. I could probably get 7-8 months of use out of half doors and only have to use them for 4-5 months during the winter. The thing is, I don't DD my wrangler in the winter so if it was extremely cold one day I wouldn't necessarily have to take it. Any advice you have would be great! Pros, cons, I want it all! Thanks guys

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I wouldn't say Tallahassee gets extremely cold but a few months of the year it's in the 40's. I drive with the plastic windows down all the time because they are a little cloudy. If you've ever driven with the doors off in the cold, it's exactly like that. Just dress appropriately. Both of our TJs have half door/soft top so I can't compare with full door/hard top, but it's not loud at all. I can still hear my radio with uppers off on the highway. I really like my half doors because I can just throw the uppers in the back and drive around.
Cons, if you don't have the window secured when unzipped, it can fly out and flap like crazy. I use paracord and binder clips to secure them.

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I wouldn't say Tallahassee gets extremely cold but a few months of the year it's in the 40's. I drive with the plastic windows down all the time because they are a little cloudy. If you've ever driven with the doors off in the cold, it's exactly like that. Just dress appropriately. Both of our TJs have half door/soft top so I can't compare with full door/hard top, but it's not loud at all. I can still hear my radio with uppers off on the highway. I really like my half doors because I can just throw the uppers in the back and drive around. Cons, if you don't have the window secured when unzipped, it can fly out and flap like crazy. I use paracord and binder clips to secure them.
Good stuff! Do you mean it is like driving doors off when you have the uppers off? I can definitely understand that. We hit -20 this year at some points. Needless to say my Corolla couldn't even put out heat in that cold weather unless I was on the highway. The Jeep sees around town driving just to keep it moving over the winter...And to donuts of course!

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I run half doors year round.

When I was in GA, I ran them with soft uppers in the winter. In SoCal? I might never see those things again (the half doors or the uppers). Drafty? Loud? Yes to both for me.


•The wind would cause the uppers to flutter a bit making both noise and bringing down the cabin temp. I don't actually have AC in my TJ, so the little bit of heat that the blower did muster would get sucked out of the cracks.
•Anyone with a knife and a bit of curiosity will cut into them, despite the fact that if they really wanted to get in they could just unzip any of the other windows (or just open the door since locking it is little more than ceremonial).
•Like the plastic on the rest of your soft top, you'll need to take specific steps to get them clean and clear but unlike the windows on other panels these will be in your line of sight when looking in your side mirrors. There were some nights where the glare on the not-even-filthy-just-a-little-grubby windows would make it impossible to make out what was behind me.


Those are just things I encountered. The experience of others might be different.

One of the things I love about half doors is that with the back seats out, I could fit everything in the cargo area: doors, uppers, back windows etc and if rain came unexpectedly (which it often does in GA) I could dress her back up quickly.
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I run half doors year round. When I was in GA, I ran them with soft uppers in the winter. In SoCal? I might never see those things again (the half doors or the uppers). Drafty? Loud? Yes to both for me. •The wind would cause the uppers to flutter a bit making both noise and bringing down the cabin temp. I don't actually have AC in my TJ, so the little bit of heat that the blower did muster would get sucked out of the cracks. •Anyone with a knife and a bit of curiosity will cut into them, despite the fact that if they really wanted to get in they could just unzip any of the other windows (or just open the door since locking it is little more than ceremonial). •Like the plastic on the rest of your soft top, you'll need to take specific steps to get them clean and clear but unlike the windows on other panels these will be in your line of sight when looking in your side mirrors. There were some nights where the glare on the not-even-filthy-just-a-little-grubby windows would make it impossible to make out what was behind me. Those are just things I encountered. The experience of others might be different. One of the things I love about half doors is that with the back seats out, I could fit everything in the cargo area: doors, uppers, back windows etc and if rain came unexpectedly (which it often does in GA) I could dress her back up quickly.
Very insightful. I'm starting to think If I do go with half doors I should get hard uppers. Thank you very much!
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I live in south Alabama and I run a soft top with half doors year round. It's a little chillie but j got used to it. Early in the mornings it is hard to see out them though. Every morning I'd have to wipe down the windows from the outside, including my rear window. Very annoying.
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I live up in Michigan and run half doors, hard uppers and soft top year round. I don't have any problems. I originally had the soft uppers and the flapping and cloudiness just got to be too much. The hard upppers reduce a lot of noise and are very nice. In the summer the top is always down so the hard uppers can easily be removed and stored in the back seat area. hope you have fun wiht your new look half doors!
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I live in south Alabama and I run a soft top with half doors year round. It's a little chillie but j got used to it. Early in the mornings it is hard to see out them though. Every morning I'd have to wipe down the windows from the outside, including my rear window. Very annoying.
I have to say that does sound a bit annoying, but no matter what car you have here we defrost and scrape every morning when it gets to be that time of year But I will keep these cons in mind! Thank you very much!



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I live up in Michigan and run half doors, hard uppers and soft top year round. I don't have any problems. I originally had the soft uppers and the flapping and cloudiness just got to be too much. The hard upppers reduce a lot of noise and are very nice. In the summer the top is always down so the hard uppers can easily be removed and stored in the back seat area. hope you have fun wiht your new look half doors!
Well I think this one may take the bacon. If you're in MI running soft top and hard uppers year round I think I'll be fine here. I'll be running a hard top in the colder months. The soft uppers sound like a pita so I am going to aim for hard uppers. Thank you very much! I think I am going to advertise my hard doors soon. Half doors are all over the place here if you're willing to spend the coin. $300-$600. Do you have any recommendations on a certain brand of uppers?
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I have half doors and have both hard uppers and soft uppers. The difference in sound between the hard and soft uppers is like night and day difference!! The hard uppers are awesome if you are looking for quiet. The windows on them however, are pretty small and that is the main thing I don't like about them. I have ran the soft uppers during the winter here in VA with temps down around 0 degrees. My heater is up to par and I was able to be comfortable in the jeep within a few minutes of it running.

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pat, I ordered my from Qtec and I don't have the brand name handy, but they were about $400 for the pair. It is a bit pricey, but the advantage over the soft uppers is huge ( as sarge stated). I agree with him that the opening is small, but who needs a big opening, you have the back half of the jeep open!!
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If you are going to have half doors then its my NSHO that you get the uppers with sliders. I had the uppers with and without sliders. Sliders win hands down. That being said, keep the full doors for the winter then pick up a set of soft upper and lower doors from Bestop for the summer. It will still be cheaper then swapping out full for half doors and then getting a set of sliders for the uppers. The soft lower doors will stow away better than the half doors will. Then get a quick disconnect mirror for the driver side that mounts on the windshield frame. You can now leave your mirrors mounted on the full doors for the winter time use. Just my $0.02
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I run half doors year round. In winter, I switch to a set of Bestop sliders because I have to open the window to get to into work. In summer, I have a regular set of uppers. Not an issue, either way.
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I run half doors year round. In winter, I switch to a set of Bestop sliders because I have to open the window to get to into work. In summer, I have a regular set of uppers. Not an issue, either way.
Same here, daily driver, with a soft top all year.
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I have soft uppers and run them year round. It's not unbearably cold but I'm from the northeast and spent 95% of my life in a hockey rink so I'm pretty good with the cold and it doesn't bother me much. I'd say go for the half doors. I also have hard uppers but I was actually colder with hard uppers than soft
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Thanks for all of the advice guys! Since I'm on a college student budget I'm going to have to either go for full doors or half doors. Meaning if I want half doors I'll sell my full doors to knock some of the half door price down.

I have a buyer lined up for my hard doors once I make the transition. I am finding a lot of half doors around here with uppers for $400-$450 but they are all soft uppers. I think I'll pick those up and run them until I have enough money for hard uppers.

How about rekeying the lock cylinders? Does that entail taking the old lock cylinder out and putting in a new one? Like some other members, I'm going to disconnect the interior lock/unlock rocker so that my door can only be opened with the key. Great door theft deterrent!
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Take your lock cylinder out and take it to a local locksmith they should be able to cut a key for you
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I have half doors with both hard and soft uppers. I used to run the hard uppers all winter, but got the soft uppers last year and like the soft ones a lot better. They provide a larger window opening and more arm room than the hard ones. I haven't had any issues with flapping or wind noise on the highway. I usually go doorless late spring to mid fall, so these are strickly used in the winter.
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Thanks for all of the advice guys! Since I'm on a college student budget I'm going to have to either go for full doors or half doors. Meaning if I want half doors I'll sell my full doors to knock some of the half door price down.

I have a buyer lined up for my hard doors once I make the transition. I am finding a lot of half doors around here with uppers for $400-$450 but they are all soft uppers. I think I'll pick those up and run them until I have enough money for hard uppers.

How about rekeying the lock cylinders? Does that entail taking the old lock cylinder out and putting in a new one? Like some other members, I'm going to disconnect the interior lock/unlock rocker so that my door can only be opened with the key. Great door theft deterrent!
Put a CL ad up to swap. Most likely you can find the same color & get a little cash on your end pending the deal. That's what I did & we swapped cores too. If you don't DD in the winter than I'd definitely get them. Been running halvesies 4 years now & wouldn't go back. I have sliders, but I prefer the soft uppers year round.
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I have half doors with both hard and soft uppers. I used to run the hard uppers all winter, but got the soft uppers last year and like the soft ones a lot better. They provide a larger window opening and more arm room than the hard ones. I haven't had any issues with flapping or wind noise on the highway. I usually go doorless late spring to mid fall, so these are strickly used in the winter.
Good advice, thank you very much. I'll probably run soft uppers for the first winter (most come with them around here). If I don't like them I'll switch to hard uppers eventually!


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Put a CL ad up to swap. Most likely you can find the same color & get a little cash on your end pending the deal. That's what I did & we swapped cores too. If you don't DD in the winter than I'd definitely get them. Been running halvesies 4 years now & wouldn't go back. I have sliders, but I prefer the soft uppers year round.
Desert sand may be hard to find haha. Just found out my sister will be DDing the family Corolla once she gets her license so I may want to keep the hard doors until I know I'm fine with halves in the winter. Seems like a lot of people prefer the soft uppers! I'll run those until I feel sliders are necessary. Thanks guys
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Do you mean it is like driving doors off when you have the uppers off?
Yeah, what I meant was driving with the uppers off, the door adds no protection against the cold so it's equal to no doors. If you do get the half doors, I think you'll really enjoy them. Good luck!
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I know you said you are on a budget, but I'll echo the earlier comment about keeping your full doors and getting half-doors. The full doors will always be harder and more expensive to find. Half doors generally can be gotten for $300-$400 and give you the best way to constantly change the look and feel of your jeep. I use full doors, halves (with no uppers at all) and doorless about equally throughout the year. Best purchase yet in the 4 years I've owned my TJ.
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I've needed this advice myself because I take an 85mph....er...I mean 70mph interstate to the hunting cabin and at 55mph around home it's a freakin' tornado inside the TJ with no doors. But I don't necessarily want to hike the full hard doors out of storage to cover the cockpit, so a soft more portable option is what I need.
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Yeah, what I meant was driving with the uppers off, the door adds no protection against the cold so it's equal to no doors. If you do get the half doors, I think you'll really enjoy them. Good luck!
I see what you mean. Perfect for the summer for sure. I spend my summer weekends out on the Cape which calls for sporadic rain showers but I always find myself away from the house! So halfs would be perfect for that.Thank you very much!

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I know you said you are on a budget, but I'll echo the earlier comment about keeping your full doors and getting half-doors. The full doors will always be harder and more expensive to find. Half doors generally can be gotten for $300-$400 and give you the best way to constantly change the look and feel of your jeep. I use full doors, halves (with no uppers at all) and doorless about equally throughout the year. Best purchase yet in the 4 years I've owned my TJ.
I think you're right on with that one. I realized it wouldn't be smart to sell my hard doors before I even try half doors in the winter for myself. I'm going to try to pick up some extra work so I can grab a pair within a couple weeks! I look forward to giving them a try, thanks for your advice!

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I've needed this advice myself because I take an 85mph....er...I mean 70mph interstate to the hunting cabin and at 55mph around home it's a freakin' tornado inside the TJ with no doors. But I don't necessarily want to hike the full hard doors out of storage to cover the cockpit, so a soft more portable option is what I need.
I know what you mean about those cabin tornados!
I agree though, it is a pain to lug the hard doors on and off. I would rather stuff them under my bed until it gets cold out! I have a cover for when it rains but sometimes it is a pain to have the doors sitting around in the garage. Thanks for your advice!
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I wanted some options so I decided to keep my full doors and just got some soft upper and lowers. I'll see how that works. The full doors will work on either the soft or hardtop, so they will probably stay on 7 months a year.
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I wanted some options so I decided to keep my full doors and just got some soft upper and lowers. I'll see how that works. The full doors will work on either the soft or hardtop, so they will probably stay on 7 months a year.
Half doors with sliders work fine with the hard or soft top, even here in cold, windy Chicago. Even down in the negative teens.
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I use the plastic uppers year round here in South Carolina. My heater has no problem keeping in warm inside in the winter. However it is annoying to have to wipe of the morning dew to see. I have a tool box mounted using the front bolt holes where the back seat goes. The plastic uppers fit perfect between it and the front seats on the drive home in the afternoon. I might pick up some sliders for the winter when I leave the uppers on longer. I had the full doors on my old 2001. I prefer the hard doors but it wasn't a deal breaker when I bought this 2004.
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I no longer have my '04 TJ that came from factory with ST and half doors. I bought it in '04 and drove it a total of 170K before it was sold. I did replace the soft uppers one time. I also did get some Bestop sliders that I used mainly in the "rainy season" (spring and fall). I took the time to keep the soft uppers clean, and used a "plastic window cleaner" to deal with scratches. Never an issue with visibility, biggest complaint with the soft uppers goes back to the rain....if you needed the window open just a little, the water was coming inside the Jeep, the sliders would "fix" that problem. I felt I had the best visibility with the soft uppers because of the larger window/ "glass" area......been looking at half doors and uppers for the JK but man it is costly!!
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my jeep came with half doors. I didn't like them in winter, I did buy smittybilt tops for them. Good god they are crap but I still use them in the summer. I bought some hard doors off the CL for $500. They are awesome in the winter! They are the wrong color but when I leave work in the morning and it's below zero I couldn't care less! It's almost time for me to put away the hard doors for the summer and dig out the half doors. Can't wait.
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I have half doors on year round. I'm in Central Florida so the cold is not a factor. I have the Bestop uppers with sliding glass windows. Heat or A/C is all good. Would I trade them for full doors? Not on your life.
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The body lines on the TJ warrant a hardtop with full drs.A softtop with half drs.Even with top down the half drs. are a body match.
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