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Old 06-17-2019, 08:01 PM
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Did I just buy a TJ Unicorn?

I joined this forum a few days ago asking questions about a rusty TJ. Today a newly available TJ popped up on my search. It was WAY more than I was planning to spend and as I drove to check it out I told myself I would only buy it if it was basically perfect.

So I bought a Jeep today. 2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. Oh. And it is a RUBICON. 89,000 miles.


The only rust to speak of is on the front and rear aftermarket bumpers. They could use some care and fresh paint. But the frame is in GREAT shape, as is the interior. Everything works. It does have a slight rear main seal leak (drips) for which the seller has offered to split the repair cost.









The owner was meticulous in his care and maintenance. It came with the pictured Warn 8000 lb. "upright" winch, an aftermarket bumper-mounted spare tire carrier with gas cans and Hi-Lift jack. Tires are 33 x 10.50 Toyo Open Country M/T tires on unknown wheels. It also came with 2 other tops...a soft top and a bikini. Bestop floor mats. K&N air filter. A spare fuel pump (he thought he needed it once, but didn't). A CB radio. Windshield is new. Clutch replaced about 2 years ago.

OH...6-speed manual transmission.

Here's what the frame looks like...





Not sure what else to say about my new Jeep, except that I am looking forward to doing some off road driving!

(my apologies to anyone who also reads the wranglerforum as I posted there, too)

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Hmmm...I don't see the pictures I put in. Anyone see them?

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I see the pictures
Aftermarket wheels are they 15 inch not rubicon 16”
Rubicon looking rocker covers but no rubicon letters on hood sides -repaint?

K&N grit passer a bad thing to have

Good luck with that German 6 speed

Snap a picture of the transfer case




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Did I just buy a TJ Unicorn?

Look up Warn 8274, I believe that’s the winch model.

Read up on The OPDA and make sure it isn’t making noise. I swapped it out on my ‘05 unlimited proactively.

As might have been suggested by question about the missing Rubicon badging and question about the transfer case verify that it is a rubi by checking for things like lockers, Dana 44 front axle and 241 transfer case. Those are what makes it different from my nonrubi unlimited. If you snap pictures of those things people can help identify them if you are unable. You can also look up the build sheet with the vin number and see how it was originally equipped.

You will love the extra room of the unlimited, and if you wheel it the extra wheelbase is helpful.


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Surprised at the negativity from the first reply.

It is a Rubicon. 6th digit is a 6. The letters were peeling up so the owner removed them (I've seen that before). Not repainted. Lockers are in place and functioning.

Thanks for the info about the winch. I have the manual as well.

Yes the wheels are 15" and not original Rubicon. Owner said he replaced them with ones that made for less tire rub at full lock. When the tires need to be replaced, maybe I'll look for a set of take-off Rubi wheels.

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Hey, teddy..


Great to hear that you found one you really like.. thats what its all about, that and doing the mods you'll enjoy. Can't wait to see some pics, for some reason I can't see them either..


You'll have to do some more research, but if im not mistaken.. your Jeep has a two piece rear main seal.. If so it might even be something you can do with a buddy in the garage... at least it wont be as expensive as other models.


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Did I just buy a TJ Unicorn?

Enjoy it. The frame looks very clean! Welcome to LJ ownership and enjoy that extra 10 inches of wheelbase.


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Congratulations, Rob! Can't see pics-- likely my settings. Sounds like a great Jeep. Welcome to the party!
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Can't see pics either and not happy about it BTW
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Trying some of the pics again...





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I have a regular 05 Rubicon with the German 6 spd. transmission. It took a little while to get learn how it likes to be handled when shifting, but I can shift smoothly now.

I have had my Rubi for just over a year and it's coming up on 200k miles in the next month. There is some play in the shift lever when it is up top in third gear especially, but this it is a high mileage transmission and I don't think the shift selectors were known to be tight shifters when they were new.

It does not make any weird whiny noises and shifts smoothly. I have enjoyed my 05 a great deal since I have had it and put over 17k miles on it. Sure... if something did fail on the 6 spd. tranny, there is no cheap fix. Replacements are not cheap like the AX15, but we could always convert to the AX ($) or replace the 6 speed ($$). I'll cross that bridge, if I ever have to, but I am not seeing any signs causing concern right now.


Yours has less than half the mileage mine does. It probably shifts a little tighter than mine and has many miles left in her to go. Be sure to use the recommended fluid.

Congrats on joining the family! You will love driving your new Rubicon!!

P.S.: Don't take a chance on catastrophic engine failure. Do swap out to a new Crown OPDA as one of your first projects ASAP... Use the original factory Cam Position Sensor from the old OPDA. I ran the new sensor with the new OPDA for about 9 months, then started getting a P0300 Random Misfire code and was bucking some. I put the OEM sensor from the old OPDA into the new OPDA two weeks ago. No codes and runs strong and smooth.


I see no pictures either...
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No pics, sounds great though. And yeah, Digger can be our own little Eeyore from time to time.
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2005; Sahara Edition Unlimited Rubicon: only 1000 were made in automatic and manual transmission variations.

2003; Tomb Raider Edition: one of the most collectible Jeeps, this was made to promote the movie and not up to 1,100 were made. They have features of Rubicon.

2004-2005; Willys Edition: had standard features with special trims and only 1000 were manufactured.

1995 Rio Grande doesn't count because it has square headlights and is a 4 cylinder. Who would even want one?
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I didn't see a price. I understand if you are keeping that private, but i can't be envious until I know what you paid. For that matter I can't shake my head and say, "Dude you got ripped off."
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I didn't see a price. I understand if you are keeping that private, but i can't be envious until I know what you paid. For that matter I can't shake my head and say, "Dude you got ripped off."
He's embarrassed. He said he paid WAY MORE than he intended to.

p.s. Depends on where you live. I paid $9500 for my one owner Rubi with 123,000 miles. Where I live, that was a steal. They go for $12,000 stock. The purdy red got to me.
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Yeah, no pictures here to see - even after I logged in. But he posted the price where the pictures are also visible - so.....
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OP welcome to the forum and to the pleasure of owning a Rubicon TJ.


Here's a link to a primer on posting pictures on this site. One major change is that Photobuck no longer offers free third party hosting unless you opt for their $40 a month level.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f2/how...e-1939746.html


I use imgBB.com. It works a lot like Photobucket but is still free. The primer shows how to directly upload photos, but as it say, it limits you.

On imgbb.com, you upload the photo into an album after you have set up your account. Then you click on the photo and in the right side. When you rest your cursor on the icon it tells you what it represents, and you want the embed codes. The code you want is direct link. Click on copy and then in your posting/reply box you will see a yellow icon with mountains in it. Click on that, it opens a posting box, and enter your copied link. The photo will then show up below where your cursor is.


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His pics were visible from his first piston my iPhone so I think he did it right

Did not see amount paid but sharing that is up to him

He seems so worried about reasonable concerns I raised that he ignored the feedback that pics were visible

He really should get a paper air filter to keep grit out if it is a long term keeper


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Congrats on a great looking Jeep!!

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WOW! Super clean! What a great color on that Rubi Unlimited!!!
Everything looks to be in excellent shape.

Body mounts are dry rotted, but not a high priority job and cheap enough when that day comes.
The rest of the Jeep looks to be in really great condition!

Awesome looker! Solid place to start on making it your own.
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The under side looks as clean as mine, but it spend 6 of it's first 11 years in Las Vegas (PO was in the Air Force). I hope that's a reflection on the right rear flare. Those things are expensive these days.

As to price, if it is worth it to you and you have the means, then it is right.

Recently was appraised of a 2003 Rubicon for sale in a local neighborhood electronic circular for $1,600. Thought it was a typo (missing a zero maybe), contacted the individual's email address about it. That is what she wanted, but the red flags popped up all over. It's advertised down here, but it's in Kansas, and wrapped up for shipment so can't be inspected or driven. When asking for details, like the VIN, none forthcoming, just more misdirection. I was born at night, just not last night.

Too many scams and fakes going on. OP knew to check the VIN, probably less than 10% of Jeep buyer know to do that. Several years ago there was a TJ advertised on a Jeep dealer's lot as a Rubicon but looking at the front in the photo it obviously wasn't by the diff. The VIN was posted in the ad, and nope, the dealership got taken (at least I hope they were victims and not perps).

Better to have a stealth Rubi than a fake.

BTW OP - here are the decals if you want a source:
https://www.quadratec.com/p/mopar/ru...r-tj-unlimited

With your color, probably the bright silver. You can tell by the "Jeep" on the side. Both decals should match in color.
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Sorry for coming back here late. There wasn't much activity yesterday and this is the first time I've been able to check here today.

I hosted the pictures on my own webstite (as I always do) and linked them using the image link tool in the forum software. Don't know why they are not showing up for many people. Same method used to post thousands of pictures on dozens of websites. <shrug> Thanks for re-posting them Blue Baby Sound!

I'm not embarrassed about what I paid for the Jeep. I was just being playful. In my initial introductory post (New Member area), I had said I WANTED to spend $5-6000 on a Jeep, but was only finding junk in that price range. I asked questions about an $8000 Jeep that was way too rusty. Then this one popped up at $17k and I bought it because it was so nice. So I spent way more than I wanted, but NOT more than the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon is worth in the local market (and probably almost anywhere in the country). LJs very rarely come up for sale in the Pac NW and generally for much more money and/or worse condition. And for it to be a Rubi also????

Color is the same as my 2001 Cherokee that I had back in the day (I think)...

No, I wasn't "worried about reasonable concern" and I DID know that some people said they could see the pics. But I still couldn't and others said they couldn't either, so I tried again. My issue with Digger84's first post is that is was ALL negative and assumed I didn't know what kind of Jeep I bought. Didn't seem like a good welcome. And then further posts seem to assume that I'm some kind of yokel.

Thanks to everyone else with helpful comments!

I'm going to enjoy it and I'm looking for an early opportunity to get it dirty!

Thinks I might do to it:

--steps of some kind to make ingress easier (but don't want something hanging down and getting in the way). I doubt my wife could get in right now without a stool
--maybe replace the shocks with something closer to "factory" valving
--steering/front end skid plates maybe?
--fuel tank skid plate (I didn't really look, but think I read that there was some protection but not very much already)

I have read about the OPDA. Sounds like cheap insurance. I have some mechanical and automotive skills, but no garage space and a sloped driveway. This job should be doable in the said driveway. I do have a level space that has river rock which will work for things like oil and fluid changes that don't involve jacking.

Thanks all!

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Man that color is sweet on the LJ. Clean frame too, you'll have a big time rig once you get it updated. The price? Who cares. If that's the Jeep you want, you buy it.

I would service all of the fluids and think about replacing the spark plugs. Could check the throttle body to make sure its clean. You know, little stuff. You could plan on swapping the OPDA, sure that's fine. Keep the factory OPDA and sensor around just in case.

I would probably address the bumpers and swap them out for something like Metalcloak or JCR. That's just me though, if you like those, hey clean them up and keep em. That old school Warn winch is nice. You mentioned shocks. That's not a bad idea. Shocks make a tremendous difference to handling and ride quality. You would also learn quite a bit about the current state of your suspension by crawling around down there. Unicorn or not, either way its a sweet LJ.
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Just saw the pics and it looks great.
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