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Old 04-07-2016, 03:41 PM
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Door adjustment?

A couple of moths ago I removed the bottom hinge to repaint it. Since I did this it seems like the door does not close as tight as before.

I noticed a thin piece of metal between the 2 halfs of the hinge (between the door and the body) that was rusted and crumbled in my hands. Could this be some sort of a shim?

Is there a way to check the adjustment of the door?

I only removed the bottom hinge and the door was closed the entire time. I didn't think it could have moved but maybe I'm wrong.

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A couple of moths ago I removed the bottom hinge to repaint it. Since I did this it seems like the door does not close as tight as before.

I noticed a thin piece of metal between the 2 halfs of the hinge (between the door and the body) that was rusted and crumbled in my hands. Could this be some sort of a shim?

Is there a way to check the adjustment of the door?

I only removed the bottom hinge and the door was closed the entire time. I didn't think it could have moved but maybe I'm wrong.
Was the thin piece of metal round like a washer? If so it was probably a spacer that held the door up some off the bottom hinge. When it broke and you reinstalled the hinge the door possibly dropped down the amount of the spacer. JMO

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Go to the hardware store and get some really thin nylon washers, like paper thin. Put 2-3 in where the metal piece came out. See if that fixes your problem. Then depending on the thickness needed, get the same in stainless steel.
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:38 AM
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Do you have to drill out the hinges to install these?
Nooo. They slide in from the top. Gravity holds them in place. No real force required to insert.
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Nooo. They slide in from the top. Gravity holds them in place. No real force required to insert.
I was asking about removing old material to "make room" for these. When I removed my hinge to paint it, I don't remember seeing anything that would slide out to allow these bushings to press in.
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... I don't remember seeing anything that would slide out to allow these bushings to press in.
It has been a while (over a year since I had to replace), but with the slop in your door, the old inserts might no longer be there. If the new bushings do not easily slide in (with nothing more than your fingers applying pressure), inspect the insides of the hinges for any old material (remove with flat tip screwdriver or small chisel of your choice). The door hinge is decent metal so it can take some gentle internal scraping with a flat tip and small mallet without issue.
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I have the same type of inserts, only I got mine from TMR customs. They shipped mine with a special tool (really just a punch designed to snuggly fit inside the door mount) to help you hammer out the old material. It took me a bit of work cause mine were REALLY stuck in there, but some WD40 and a lot of persistence got them out.
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Wow! Just wanted to say thanks for this. I looked at several other bushing replacements and they were ridiculously expensive so I stopped thinking about it but what you posted made me pull the trigger immediately. More reasonable price!

Also, my doors have a white plastic washer on the door bolt that sits between the hinge (female) and door bracket (male)... I don't have a picture right now but I can post one later...

To the OP and others, I read a thread awhile back about getting these bushings out and a member said he used an 8mm socket...

Ah! thread linked here

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Tools needed- hammer and deep 8mm socket.

I Ordered the Black Magic Brakes replacement door bushings for my TJ and read and heard a few horror stories about getting the old worn original bushings out. I decided to try to remove the old bushing with needle nose pliers like a lot of people suggested however after a few minutes I saw it was going to take forever so I started thinking and realized a 8mm socket was almost the same size as the old bushing and tapped from the bottom with a hammer knocked it out in a couple hits!!!

I just wanted to share this in case anyone is thinking of replacing their old torn bushings before the doors go back on for winter!
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To the OP and others, I read a thread awhile back about getting these bushings out and a member said he used an 8mm socket...

Ah! thread linked here
Nice find. This place is a wealth of info. Many a good post quickly gets buried as the flow continues on.
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I just did the first one.............I tried using a socket as a punch along with PB Blaster, but it was not budging. Tried a hammer and awl but the insert just broke up and didn't move.

I ended up taking the hinge off the Jeep and drilling it out.............now in the process of repainting the hinge........between the hammering and drill press the paint was scratched.
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The second one seemed to peel away (using a small screw driver as a chisel) in two layers. I also used a long 8MM socket as a drift. I did not have to drill this one
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Just ordered a set after one of my doors was already difficult to remove after just a year!
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This product unfortunately did not solve my problem
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This product unfortunately did not solve my problem
It could be your hinge alignment. New delrin bushings made everything smoother for me: removing doors, replacing doors, and opening doors.

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