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Old 09-25-2013, 09:29 PM
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Inexpensive vs expensive bumpers

So what am I missing? If two bumpers are made of the same thickness metal and one is double the price what makes one better or worse than the other?

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American made / Chinese made. Quality of metal. Quality of welding. Hand made or stamped through a machine / laser cut. Weight in general, overall metal used in manufacturing.

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American made / Chinese made. Quality of metal. Quality of welding. Hand made or stamped through a machine / laser cut. Weight in general, overall metal used in manufacturing.

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Yeah,I see what your saying.I bet a more expensive one would have a higher chance of fitting better also
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Yeah,I see what your saying.I bet a more expensive one would have a higher chance of fitting better also
Also very true. Smittybilt is known for quality and fitment issues, and their products are the cheapest (In terms of price too). To each his own but I personally think Smittybilt is crap.
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Also very true. Smittybilt is known for quality and fitment issues, and their products are the cheapest (In terms of price too). To each his own but I personally think Smittybilt is crap.
The lever on my Smittybilt SRC tire carrier just fell off today... It's less than 3 months old. I'm not happy to say the least.
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I think smittybilt makes better front bumpers then rear bumpers
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I think smittybilt makes better front bumpers then rear bumpers
I do agree with this, my front stinger is very sturdy. I am happy with it
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There a reason why smittybilt has the nickname "shittybilt"
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I personally think Smittybilt is crap.
X2 Bought some Tube Doors, adjusted those things so many times and they never fit up. Returned them and tried a second set, still didnt fit. Returned all together. Bought a winch from them, thing looks like it has gone to hell and come back, its only been on there for 4 years (mostly in a garage).
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I do agree with this, my front stinger is very sturdy. I am happy with it
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I really like the ARB front bumper.I think Im going that route.I really like the way the winch sits down in the bumper.There damn sturdy also.
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Sometimes you get what you pay for. Quality! Some companies spend time and money doing R&D, trying to develop a good product with good quality. Then others copy that and make it in china with cheaper materials and poor quality. That’s basically what you get.
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Heres a thread I made of a a ARB bumper being made.Its pretty cool & a lot does go into it.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f19/coo...ml#post4888433
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ARB is made in Australia. Any USA manufacturers that have similar qualities?
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https://www.wranglerforum.com/f118/ne...er-312937.html


Some bumpers cost more because an actual American made it. All of the bumpers we plan to market will be built by Sean or Byron, maybe even both. When you buy a bumper from Konnect Fabrication it goes to supporting the local steel company, the fabricators, and their respective families. All of our material is cut by hand, we do not even use a plasma cutter or anything else. By doing everything by hand it makes each project a little more personal and ensures the end product is done right. We try to keep our prices reasonable as we understand the value of money, hence the goal to market these bumpers between $300 and $350. If you think about cost of steel, welding supplies, cutting blades, and other materials we are not asking a lot. I am even throwing in free bed liner on all products ordered through Jeep forums as my personal Thank You.

Other name brand companies use automatic welders and cutting machines removing some of the "human" element. Not all but some.

Think about SmittyBilt. I am pretty sure not all of their bumpers are made by the owners or those who have stake in the company. Was every single cut and weld done by a person or machine?
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Spending money on junky and/or heavy bumpers is stupid.
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I am putting my American made money into an American owned company, both bumpers & sliders are locally made by a small, but up and coming fab shop, Leadfoot Offroad in So Cal. Pics to follow soon.
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Maybe not the place for this-but I had a fab shop bend me some 3/16" thick hot roll 3" x 4" tall x 3" x 4ft long- in a tight "C" shape. took my old front bumper off. Drilled mounting holes in my new one/as the old one, even welded a reciever tube on it. Nice heavier bumper to mount what ever. Bumper cost $ 40.00, $9.00 reciever tube, $8.00 paint.. I did this because I wanted something thicker for mounting a tow bar on without flex. I also installed some short pieces of aluminum ( scrap cut off $ 3.00)at each end of the bumper to protect the fenders. looks good-price even better total $ 60.00. and it is heavy enough to mount a winch on too. Just my 2 cents.
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I have his rear bumper with tire carrier. It took a while to get but is very high quality and looks great.
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There a reason why smittybilt has the nickname "shittybilt"
I haven't had any problems with my smittybilt bumpers. I have totaled a truck, ran into several rocks, mowed over trees and drilled a deer going 50 and I haven't even dented it. The only problem I have had is the paint flaking off so I just bedlined them
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I haven't had any problems with my smittybilt bumpers. I have totaled a truck, ran into several rocks, mowed over trees and drilled a deer going 50 and I haven't even dented it. The only problem I have had is the paint flaking off so I just bedlined them
Every time I see a shittybilt product Im not impressed. Either crapy/half ass welds, damaged after minor impact, just not impressed. Now i have read a few other people say similar things to what youve said. I guess a every now and then a good one slips out.

I have a 98 blue TJ being worked on at my work and it has front and rear smittybilt bumpers and the front looks like it was hit very minor and its dinted, cracked and rusted.
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My $.02. I purchased a Dirtworx rear bumper from Robert a few months ago. I have been super busy at work so just last weekend i was able to Etch wash it and prime it. Before i did anything i sanded down with sandpaper rolls all the welds corners etc. I was truly amazed at his welding abilities and the overall "Beefiness" of the bumper for more than 1/2 what a mass manufactured one costs. I also really like Steve's work from Roughneck Off Road. He may be building me one of his trailers soon. You get what you pay for but there are many many smaller independent fabricators out there that can and do it for 1/2 the cost.
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Every time I see a shittybilt product Im not impressed. Either crapy/half ass welds, damaged after minor impact, just not impressed. Now i have read a few other people say similar things to what youve said. I guess a every now and then a good one slips out. I have a 98 blue TJ being worked on at my work and it has front and rear smittybilt bumpers and the front looks like it was hit very minor and its dinted, cracked and rusted.
Dang that sucks. I mean mines pretty much solid as a rock. They haven't gotten dented at all. Ha
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Some bumpers cost more because an actual American made it. All of the bumpers we plan to market will be built by Sean or Byron, maybe even both. When you buy a bumper from Konnect Fabrication it goes to supporting the local steel company, the fabricators, and their respective families. All of our material is cut by hand, we do not even use a plasma cutter or anything else. By doing everything by hand it makes each project a little more personal and ensures the end product is done right. We try to keep our prices reasonable as we understand the value of money, hence the goal to market these bumpers between $300 and $350. If you think about cost of steel, welding supplies, cutting blades, and other materials we are not asking a lot. I am even throwing in free bed liner on all products ordered through Jeep forums as my personal Thank You.

Other name brand companies use automatic welders and cutting machines removing some of the "human" element. Not all but some.

Think about SmittyBilt. I am pretty sure not all of their bumpers are made by the owners or those who have stake in the company. Was every single cut and weld done by a person or machine?
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I tried to look at pictures on the link below and they are not available anymore. Do you have a websit or anywhere else these are being sold? I understand this post is old, in market for front winch bumper. 300-350 is right where I want to spend. Hope you guys still have these!!

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