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Old 10-11-2019, 12:25 AM
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modified topography flares

Ok so I'm posting this idea i came up with recently after making the mistake of buying aftermarket flares from a bad source (can explain if curious), but basically I want to put my stock flares back on my jeep but modify them in a way i have not seen anyone do yet and just trying to see what the forums opinion on path to take is.

so my idea is to put a topography design on the flare plastic either through paint, etching, or carving similar to this image:
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I also took some inspiration from the slush mats on the new JL:
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the topography pic i used seems fine for use as a template but i'm still trying to figure out the best way to "project" it onto the flare.

I currently have a harbor freight dremel and a few different tips so i imagine I should be fine if I go that route. I also think it would be cool if I gave it that effect where there is paint that matches the body in the concave lines, like on logos:
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I have also seen people using fiber lasers to etch plastic in different applications, but it doubt there is a machine near me I could use.

Lastly, the fenders are sun faded so I will need to repaint/restore them regardless of what path I choose, so it will have to be painted at some point in the process if that matters to your approach.

Again, I am looking for opinions on the best way to go about this (both technically and design wise) to make it look as clean as possible (i.e. clean edges, no burrs, uniform line thickness) without spending hundreds on tools.

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Sounds like an absolute nightmare to keep clean if you carve it. You could probably have somebody print you a wrap and put it on but it wouldn't be very durable. It could also be airbrushed but then again it also still wouldn't be very durable.

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Old 10-11-2019, 09:14 AM   #3
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There is a vid on YouTube of the trail recon Jeep wrapping his in a topographical pattern. Trying to carve it by hand won’t turn out the way you think, plus be a PITA
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Yeah vinyl wrap all the way, search Amazon there are a ton of vinyl options out there.
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thanks for all the responses. since there is little to no information on carving plastic out there and it would be a pain to figure out myself as you have all pointed out, I will go the vinyl wrap route.

the only thing that worries me is that because of the round nature of the flares, i'll need to stretch the vinyl which may cause the design to become staggered and warped.
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the only thing that worries me is that because of the round nature of the flares, i'll need to stretch the vinyl which may cause the design to become staggered and warped.
Heat the vinyl lightly with a hair dryer and it will contour to the bends just fine. DON'T overheat it. I had to do my GF's car because it had almost no clearcoat paint left on the top. The cheapest paint job quote was $1200. A professional vinyl wrap job quote was $750 to do the top of the whole vehicle IF I sanded all the paint down. I paid $30 for a 20'x5' roll. She wanted the carbon fiber over shiny black vinyl.
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Heat the vinyl lightly with a hair dryer and it will contour to the bends just fine. DON'T overheat it. I had to do my GF's car because it had almost no clearcoat paint left on the top. The cheapest paint job quote was $1200. A professional vinyl wrap job quote was $750 to do the top of the whole vehicle IF I sanded all the paint down. I paid $30 for a 20'x5' roll. She wanted the carbon fiber over shiny black vinyl.
wow, that came out really nice! did you also use the wet+squeegee method or just heat?
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wow, that came out really nice! did you also use the wet+squeegee method or just heat?
Thanks. I used a lot of water with a few drops of dish washing liquid so I could move it around and squeegee it. I bought the breathable vinyl that releases the air bubbles easier.
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my only concern now is how i am going to print it onto the vinyl. the process seems a bit risky (not to mention expensive) since if i screw up i'll have to buy a whole new print. anyone know to best place to get custom printed vinyl? thinking of just asking for pricing at some local wrap shops
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You can buy it already printed just Google it
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You can buy it already printed just Google it
does not exist. looking to see how much it would be to get it laser scanned and then etched or CNC'd
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does not exist. looking to see how much it would be to get it laser scanned and then etched or CNC'd
that's funny because I found lots of examples of it for sale
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bet yah they could dip the fenders, in that new stuff. that liquid decal stuff.
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that's funny because I found lots of examples of it for sale
link?
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bet yah they could dip the fenders, in that new stuff. that liquid decal stuff.
that's actually a really good idea since the flares are removed! will look into that
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that's actually a really good idea since the flares are removed! will look into that
I think its called hydro dipping.
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Are you seriously helpless? Go to google. Search topographic map vinyl wrap. Look at the options.

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Are you seriously helpless? Go to google. Search topographic map vinyl wrap. Look at the options.

You can do it. I believe in you.
i wouldn't say i can't find it unless i already looked... of course i can buy a custom vinyl with my own image printed on, but it won't be large enough to make it seamless. to buy enough of the custom stuff to cover all the flares the cost would be way over my budget
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i wouldn't say i can't find it unless i already looked... of course i can buy a custom vinyl with my own image printed on, but it won't be large enough to make it seamless. to buy enough of the custom stuff to cover all the flares the cost would be way over my budget


Over your budget is a completely different statement than ‘doesn’t exist’. Can’t help you there.
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the whole point of this is to do it on a budget as i stated in the thread description. what i am trying to find is a roll of vinyl with a seamless topo design, similar to how you can buy a roll of vinyl with carbon fiber print instead of getting it custom made for x2-3 times the price. I am yet to find this product while researching.

sure, at first glance there are a bunch of google images with this but these are made by pro wrap shops that build the topo design from scratch and apply it themselves.

hope this clears up any confusion as to why i asked for a link.

if you think of something that could get me a similar result for less, lmk.

also i am still looking into hydrodipping for those curious, currently sanding the flares for primer and paint and i will speak with a hydrofab shop about pricing beforehand.

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