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Old 05-20-2017, 11:21 AM
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New rust repair project

I already did the Safe-T-Caps on the frame rails https://www.wranglerforum.com/f282/fr...ht-791297.html
Now it's time to do the body mounts https://www.autorust.com/product/ful...gler-tj-97-06/
One too many Ohio winters has shown no mercy. I've been debating junking this thing or keeping on with the repairs.. You get to a point where you have too much money invested to junk it but don't want to keep putting more in to it.. For $437 in parts, i'll make the repairs.. besides,, it gives me something to do and keeps me out of trouble



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Old 05-21-2017, 09:13 PM   #3
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That is bad rot. Unfortunately, the only way to do it right is and off the frame restoration. There is no way you can successful repair the frame from the bottom.

Be careful, on a project like that, you can end up with a bunch $$$ into it...
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:51 AM
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That is bad rot. Unfortunately, the only way to do it right is and off the frame restoration. There is no way you can successful repair the frame from the bottom.

Be careful, on a project like that, you can end up with a bunch $$$ into it...
Huh??? Did you click on the links in my post?

https://www.autorust.com/product/ful...gler-tj-97-06/
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You are going to repair it with the body on arent you ?
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You are going to repair it with the body on arent you ?
Yep,, Just the way that replacement part is designed to be done.
Let's not make the mistake of thinking this is some kind of restoration project.. this is just a bandaid to slow the bleeding. I use this jeep to drive roads and easements where I won't take my truck. This thing will end up scraped and parted out in the near future.. probably when my current Oil & Gas pipeline project is complete and I move on to another project.
It has served me well the past years and has been fun doing these repairs ... it's Jeep entertainment.. keeps me off drugs and out of tittie bars
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i hear ya there m8
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Omg that's great!!

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To the OP: check out Rust Repair Patch if you only want to patch the torque box areas that are rotted versus remove and replace the whole torque box. Their parts were really solid. I was going that route before acquiring a new replacement body from Colorado...

Those torque boxes are relatively tough to replace as they basically require removing the interior.
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parts came today, not sure when i'll get to it but i'm sure I will soon
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How much were the parts?
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When you raise the body off the frame, check that your upper steering shaft telescopes properly or the lower shaft bushing will need to be replaced, and you have to buy the entire lower shaft. Or disconnect the upper and lower shafts. Ask me how I know... Good time to replace the mounts.

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Bag full of new body mount bushings

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How much were the parts?
$437 for the rails including shipping, $100 for all the bushings
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I'm doing the exact same job in order to get my '98 saftied. I'll follow suit and replace the bushings as well. Are you PB'ing those mount bolts from above or just underneath?
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I'm doing the exact same job in order to get my '98 saftied. I'll follow suit and replace the bushings as well. Are you PB'ing those mount bolts from above or just underneath?
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Yeah,Im much safer at home doing Jeep projects.My wife realizes that so she leaves me alone lol.
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$437 for the rails including shipping, $100 for all the bushings
Where did you buy your bushings?
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When you raise the body off the frame, check that your upper steering shaft telescopes properly...
Does this apply if you are only lifting one side at a time to replace the torque box/floor supports?
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Does this apply if you are only lifting one side at a time to replace the torque box/floor supports?
I would say yes. The body will still need to go up a few inches. It only takes a few minutes to disconnect the upper from the lower shaft and verify it telescopes. Just bungee the steering wheel so it doesn't spin and break the clock spring. My upper shaft was seized/rusted and caused a lot of extra work, and parts.

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Where did you buy your bushings?
Amazon, Crown Automotive bushings
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009XUZ8QY...vert-amazon-20
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Is there another way to replace the body mount retainers other than drill out the floor with a hole saw, then remove and replace? I mistakenly thought they were hiding under the carpet =)
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Made some progress today
Sprayed the inside of the new rails with a self etching primer, figured something would be better than nothing on the raw steel



Put a new blade in the sawzall and went at it...





Got everything lined up and new bushings bolted in place,, I'll start welding on it tomorrow

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I did clean out the underside of the body and sprayed with a rust killer then the primer
I'll wire wheel the crap out of the weld areas before I start welding
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That looks dead sexy almost like a new jeep.
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Did you put a layer of paint on that self etching primer, on the inside of the torque boxes?
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Did you put a layer of paint on that self etching primer, on the inside of the torque boxes?
Nope.. why?
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Nope.. why?
Primer absorbs water if you didnt put a top coat on it. But the vehicle will probably be junked before it rusts out again.

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