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Old 11-20-2019, 11:48 PM
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Oil filter stuck.

As the title reads, I have a stuck oil filter. I’ve already purchased 2 different types of oil wrenches and the only thing they did was tear up the paper on the outside of the oil filter and cave In some small spots of the filter it’s self. When I start the Jeep up I notice some oil leaking but I believe it’s just from the damage to the oil filter. Should I try the screwdriver trick? Or should I get it to a dealership and have them take care of it? Thanks.

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Old 11-21-2019, 12:09 AM   #2
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Socket cup type filter tool should work.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:34 AM   #3
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Hammer and BIG screwdriver... don't drive it through the can, use it as a chisel to drive the base counter clockwise.... absolutely guaranteed to work...
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Hammer and BIG screwdriver... don't drive it through the can, use it as a chisel to drive the base counter clockwise.... absolutely guaranteed to work...
x2, when I was a youth I gave up on the oil filter strap wrench and if it didnt come off by hand i 'd use this method. although i used drive it through the can about an inch from the bottom (farthest from the gasket) and never had an issue other than getting a little messy.

now I have 3 or 4 oil filter sockets and they make it much easier and cleaner.

makes me a bit jealous when i pop the hood on certain cars and the oil filter is sitting right there making it a simple and clean job
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If you can get the strap filter on close to the block, that's the strongest part of the filter, won't bend in and flex. Get it nice and clean, one of those jar cap remover rubber things then the strap wrench will help with the grip.
And once you do get it off. Check the engine block ring and threads fro any signs of damage.
New filter, use new oil to lube gasket and hand tight.
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After you get it off, screw the new one on by hand until the lubricated gasket contacts the block, then only tighten it an additional 3/4 turn.
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Hammer and BIG screwdriver... don't drive it through the can, use it as a chisel to drive the base counter clockwise.... absolutely guaranteed to work...
^^^ This. Just be careful to not nick the block with the screwdriver tip.

A chunk of rubber (old computer mouse pad) around the filter and a strap type wrench like pvansch1 suggests might work too.

I'm guessing the last guy tightened it with a wrench or might not have lubed the gasket prior to installing the filter.

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something like this is what the quick change places use in your situation.

If it's really stuck, then it will look like a crushed beer can by the time you get it off. But that is OK, you're not going to re-use it again anyway. So don't be afraid to mangle it up.

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something like this is what the quick change places use in your situation.

If it's really stuck, then it will look like a crushed beer can by the time you get it off. But that is OK, you're not going to re-use it again anyway. So don't be afraid to mangle it up.

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That’s the one I purchased haha.
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After you get it off wipe the housing seat off with a clean cloth (be sure the old gasket is not stuck on), smear some new oil on the rubber gasket on the new filter and tighten it as tight as you can with your hands. I have done that for over 40 years and the old filter will come off easily the next time you need to change it. The 3/4 turn is why it is stuck.
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Disagree... I can tighten past 3/4 turn by hand on most filters... 3/4 turn is what is specified by the manufacturer
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Used to be cheaper but I’ve never had an issue with a stubborn filter removal. Tightens as it turns.

https://www.amazon.com/Craftsman-Oil.../dp/B003Y22RDO
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After you get it off wipe the housing seat off with a clean cloth (be sure the old gasket is not stuck on), smear some new oil on the rubber gasket on the new filter and tighten it as tight as you can with your hands. I have done that for over 40 years and the old filter will come off easily the next time you need to change it. The 3/4 turn is why it is stuck.
Agree 100%. NEVER tighten a spin-on oil filter with a wrench of any type. Hand tighten only. I have done this since 1968 when I first started wrenching and have NEVER had one leak or fight me coming back off. I also use only ONE HAND when I tighten. NOT two. Clean the gasket surface checking for the old gasket and oil the new filters rubber seal with fresh oil and you will never go wrong.
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Don't get me wrong... I always install by hand except on vehicles that I can't get my hand on the filter but still only 3/4 turn past first contact.... as tight as I can would be too much and 3/4 turn is absolutely NOT the cause of a filter not coming off... I'm a little younger than you guys but in over 30 years I've done more than a couple without a single issue.... most of the time I remove them w my bare hands too
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NEVER tighten a spin-on oil filter with a wrench of any type. Hand tighten only.
Aircraft spin-on filters, which are not materially different than automotive filters, are routinely installed with a wrench and torqued to 16-18 ft/lbs. What matters is the final torque, not the method used in achieving same. Fact is, there are plenty of folks who lack the grip strength necessary to adequately tighten a spin-on filter "by hand."

Here is the ultimate tool for the impossibly stuck oil filter:

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Aircraft spin-on filters, which are not materially different than automotive filters, are routinely installed with a wrench and torqued to 16-18 ft/lbs. What matters is the final torque, not the method used in achieving same. Fact is, there are plenty of folks who lack the grip strength necessary to adequately tighten a spin-on filter "by hand."

Here is the ultimate tool for the impossibly stuck oil filter:

https://safejacks.com/products/talon...da0c4b60&_ss=r
Eeeeeh. Maybe. I know over the last 45 years, my grip strength has been going down - not up. Might tend to agree with you on that one. My thought is snug with your hand, easily over tightened if you put the 1/2" breaker on it to tighten. Yea, there are some out there that need the torque wrench to make sure it's not going to leak OR never come back off. Good point! That ULTIMATE TOOL is on my Santa Clause list. Sure hope I've been good this year. Thanks.
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Hand tight if enough access, if not I use a filter cap wrench with no leverage.
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The hammer screwdriver trick works, that would be my last resort though. I have a pair of Channel Lock 20 1/4" pliers, and if there is room it works.
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I’ve had luck removing recalcitrant spin-on filters with an articulating strap-type filter wrench on a few of these through the years where working space and/or access was very limited. That, and some patience (not always my forte). 25+ yrs ago when the now She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed and I were dating, I found some chungus at the dealership had grossly overtightened the filter on a Honda she had bought from them not long before when she’d taken it back for a free oil change. That was the only time I ever had to resort to the “jam a screwdriver through the filter” approach. And then did so with caution so as to strive to be well away from the pickup tube/nipple that the filter screwed on to... I very much agree with the hand tighten crowd for spin-on filters and am glad my JKU has a cartridge-type, well, other than the crappy plastic housing it sits in...
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If i had a filter stuck really bad i use a chain wrench. But the filter usually ends up crushing the can and it starts leaking anyways but it's still a little cleaner than using a screw driver.



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Not if you use the screwdriver the right way... shouldn't be leaking at all
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Big Screwdriver

If you have exhausted these other fine methods, drive a very large screwdriver through the can side to side near the back. You can even get a cheater bar on if needed but this should work.
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What type of wrenches did you try? As Lemotan said the socket drive one that goes right over the end of the filter should do.

If not then as gottagofast said, big screwdriver and hammer.

I've never chased the edge like he described but I did drive it through the filter to use as a handle to break it free. Used a philips and drilled a starting hole so I didn't have to pound as hard and helped make sure it was centered.

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