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Old 06-23-2017, 09:04 AM   #31
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Sounds as if it were interactive. When I took my license exam in Houston 50 years before that (1957) you had to study the book and the exam was about 100 questions. Name and DOB were not among the questions. Two months later I took the driving test and had an unrestricted Texas license at the ripe old age of 14.

While I learned to read a topographical map in Scouts, I leaned to read a gas company road map by dad as he would have me lay out the route and then drive if we went anywhere. I still study the route if I'm driving somewhere I haven't been before or recently, but Google Maps has replaced the Mobil Oil maps. Maps were important because the road signs in many states were the pits.

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Old 06-23-2017, 01:05 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by J33P View Post
I wish the us would adopt the law to the north of us. Headlights on at all times
DRLs have a small, barely measurable effect on crashes. According to a 1985 study by the IIHS, commercial fleet passenger vehicles modified to operate with DRLs were involved in 7 percent fewer daytime multiple vehicle crashes than similar vehicles without DRLs. Later, a 2002 Institute study reported a 3 percent decline in daytime multiple vehicle crash risk in nine U.S. states concurrent with the introduction of DRLs. Federal researchers, using data collected nationwide from 1995 to 2001, concluded that there was a 5 percent decline in daytime, two vehicle opposite direction crashes. However, a 2008 federal study concluded that DRLs reduce crash involvements of pickups, SUVs, and vans, but have no significant effect on crashes of passenger cars.

A reduction of 3 or maybe 5 percent? In many surveys and studies, that tiny figure is known as a margin of error.

Originally Posted by pvansch1 View Post
People just don't look up from their phone's​ to see where they are going.
This is the crux of the matter. The entire notion of daytime running lights is based on a logical fallacy. The idea is that your lights are on, so other motorists will see you approaching and thus will not pull out in front of you. The implication is that, without DRLs, they have looked in the direction of your car but somehow did not see it. This is false. The reason people pull out in front of you is because THEY DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO LOOK IN THE FIRST PLACE. I don't care if you car is covered in more flashing lights than a Las Vegas casino--if somebody cannot be bothered to look before they pull out, it isn't going to make a lick of difference whether your lights are on or not. (Hence why all those studies above see only single digit reductions from DRLs.)


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