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Old 04-13-2015, 01:28 PM
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Rotting Frame

Hey everyone, just a quick question.

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What should I do about this? I'm new to the forum, and I know rust is common, but this seems pretty bad

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What should I do about this?
frame swap to a new/used frame that doesn't have damage.

also the jeep is not safe to drive in it's present condition due to the structural damage.

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Safe T Caps are a great option, otherwise a lot of guys on here will tell you that you have to replace the frame. Check out the rest of the frame and make a decision whether you need to repair or replace

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Hi, yes very bad as noted.. They make weld in sections to fix this... but if the whole frame has area's like this then a new frame might be a better option.

one example of the weld in section:https://www.autorust.com/product-category/jeep/jeep-tj/
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:49 PM
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It's really only that part of the frame that's truly rotting out. Slight rotting on the other side. Minor rust throughout the other parts.
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have you dropped the TC skid yet?
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^then Safe T Cap sectional frame repair will be the way to go.

it never stops amazing me how quickly TJ frames rot to this extent.
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thats pretty bad. Once you take it over some infant sized rocks, it's going to give. You might get lucky and it'll last forever but I wouldnt bet on it.

There are some things in life that you deal with when it becomes a problem. Cross that bridge when you get to it type of mentality. This probably isnt one of them. Not only will this leave you stranded when it fails, it could end in a catastrophic loss of life.

Buy a frame or get a shop to weld a new piece on.

My buddy had a ford focus with a rotten control arm. It finally gave at 70pmh on a highway and after a few median smacks it totaled his car. He wasnt hurt thank god but he was pretty pissed he put a full tank of gas in it just 10 miles prior.
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have you dropped the TC skid yet?
Didn't realize I had rot until I did this.
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I suggest the Safe T Caps If you don't want to/can't pay for a new frame. I am in the process of doing that right now to my frame from just behind the front control arm to just in front of the back spring. Here is a link to the build. https://www.wranglerforum.com/f322/fr...s-1188041.html They have all different parts to basically make an entirely new frame, or just fix individual parts.
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Take a screw driver and polk around the rest of the frame. I'm guessing if the frame is that bad in that spot, it might be bad in other spots. Mine was worst on the bottom side of the frame.
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That dog won't hunt. If that's the worst you can bet you're on the verge elsewhere. I'd drop that skid & do a thorough inspection.
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For a full center frame piece they want over 400.00ea.That seems crazy expensive,then it still has to get welded in.And then hopefully you dont find any other rot.I paid 600.00 for a rust free complete frame.
And yours looks like mine did



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Thanks for the input everyone! Time to start saving some money :/ is there anything I can do in the time being to keep it strong enough to drive around for a few paychecks?
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May I ask where you found a good frame for $600?
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is there anything I can do in the time being to keep it strong enough to drive around for a few paychecks?
Short of the frame swap, no. Sorry, it's basically parts in the driveway at this point.

You'll need to find alternate transportation in the meantime. 2nd vehicle? Bus pass? Bicycle? Walking shoes?
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Just out of curiosity, has anybody had problems with LJ frames yet? I don't see a reason why those frames wouldn't rot out. And auto rust does not sell LJ frame repair kits yet...
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May I ask where you found a good frame for $600?
$800 was the best I could find within driving distance when I did my swap. It took a ton of Craigslist searches and even more phone calls, but all in all it was worth it. I like knowing I have a solid frame that is rustproofed inside and out, as opposed to a welded frame (not saying they're not as strong). The swap was a process but not terribly difficult. If I didn't have to move motor mounts and have my uncle come in to weld for me I would have been done in no time!

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For a full center frame piece they want over 400.00ea.That seems crazy expensive,then it still has to get welded in.And then hopefully you dont find any other rot.I paid 600.00 for a rust free complete frame.
And yours looks like mine did



Holy crap..is this more of an east coast thing? I have an 04 and the frame looks brand new still..I dump used motor oil into the frame rails every fall since ive owned it(5 years now),something I learned from the old guys with old boxed frame Cjs and broncos...
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I would love to get a new frame, but I had to do something in a pinch. My Jeep will be out for a total of 15 days. That is pushing it since it is my daily driver. I've been getting rides and borrowing vehicles until it's done. Not a lot of frames in the area that are any better going for sale around here. Also, I wouldn't have the time to replace an entire frame or the money to pay someone to do it. The Safe T Caps were my best bet.
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What should I do about this? I'm new to the forum, and I know rust is common, but this seems pretty bad
Buddy you are in luck! I saw a guy in Fayetteville selling TJ frames on craigslist. and no it isn't me.
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May I ask where you found a good frame for $600?
I had to travel a few hours to PA.Some guy parts out Jeeps.He wanted 700 but got it for 600.
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I had to travel a few hours to PA.Some guy parts out Jeeps.He wanted 700 but got it for 600.
Do post his info for us NE guys!
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I have to dig thru my pile of receipts .Let me see if i can find it
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Are the options preventative-wise one can do to prevent this continued damage of an existing frame? Mine is ok at the moment but I plan on keeping this jeep a while so would like to know what to do prevent it (I'm in FL so don't have the issue of salt on the roads.) (BLZ above mentioned used motor oil?)
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im not sure how its done.. or if it works on a damaged frame.. (or at all lol) but i have heard you can tie it to the battery some how.. it doesn't drain it in any way but the volts going throw it keep it from rusting somehow..

keep in mind a drunk told me this so not all that creditable
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im not sure how its done.. or if it works on a damaged frame.. (or at all lol) but i have heard you can tie it to the battery some how.. it doesn't drain it in any way but the volts going throw it keep it from rusting somehow..

keep in mind a drunk told me this so not all that creditable
Hmmmm. I'd say you get what you pay for in this case! Lol
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Your frame is already tied to your battery through the negative (ground) terminal. If you were to tie in the positive, it would make a direct short and reak havac on your battery. Unless there is a way I don't know of, that is no an option. I could be wrong though.
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Are the options preventative-wise one can do to prevent this continued damage of an existing frame? Mine is ok at the moment but I plan on keeping this jeep a while so would like to know what to do prevent it (I'm in FL so don't have the issue of salt on the roads.) (BLZ above mentioned used motor oil?)
start by flushing your frame well. i like to park the front up on a steep incline and the put a garden hose in the front and let it run out the back. do it on each side until all of the grit is out. i've found that a compressed air gun can help agitate the water and speed up the process.

once its clean, let it dry

then spray it with eastwoods internal frame coating. add a decent rust converter on the outside and you should be good to go. once its sealed you'll most likely be ok, but an application of fluid film wouldnt hurt if you knew you were going to the beach or driving up north

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