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Old 12-05-2019, 06:53 PM
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Secret Secondary Glove Box on my TJ

Hey guys Ive had some questions on it so i figured id share. Long story short my jeep is a 2005 Turbocharged 2.4L Overland rig that my girlfriend and i travel with and actually sleep inside. I'll do a separate post on all that. As many of you know, storage is a premium in our TJs so here is a quick write up on a cool compartment i built.

About 6 years ago i had a teenage girl pull out in front of my jeep off a side street and i ended up pushing the back corner of the trunk almost through her back window with my front bumper. Luckily nobody was hurt (besides her car). My jeep was unscathed besides a bent fair-lead on my winch (my bumper saved me). Unfortunately both my airbags deployed. I decided it wasn't worth replacing the whole system and i'll never sell my jeep so the only one at "risk" is me.

Before anyone says something safety related.. save it. This is a great build for anyone whose jeep is an off road rig or is willing to die like a man...

I purchased a driver airbag to restore the steering wheel / horn (airbag not hooked up). When the pass airbag deploys it breaks the bottom mount clean and folds the cover up out of the way. To replace the cover even if your not putting the airbag back is almost $300 from mopar. I re-used it as youll see below.

Heres the finished product. It allows me to store any extra items or my firearm. Very handy.

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To remove the airbag its a pain. I actually had to remove the dash to access the rear facing nut on the top of the airbag as well as the two side mounts. I did this when i had the dash out to replace my heater core / evaporator. This leaves a HUGE space behind the dash. I simply used some 1/2" plywood to box out the compartment floor and back wall. It fit perfectly between the sheet steel frame of the dash. i drilled holes in the metal to put small wood screws into the wood. I build sides to the box as well and used a marine grade black carpet and a sealant to seal the wood.
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I also painted the dash support metal black.. For the cover, There are 5 screws that hold the top of the cover to the dash. I replaced those and marked out a location to drill a hole for the latch. I used a hood/ bumper pin latch for a clean look and easy function. I put the hole in the center near the bottom and made a bracket to hold the pin. Works great and keeps a nice clean look.

Let me know if you have any questions.
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Your 'secret' glovebox ain't secret anymore. Nice job.
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Right there with ya, airbags have caused me more injuries than they've prevented. Could you not use the gutted deployed bag casing to accomplish the same thing? I've wanted to replace my steering wheel with a Grant and put a welder in the glove compartment so the passenger air bag space would be most helpful.
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I decided it wasn't worth replacing the whole system and i'll never sell my jeep so the only one at "risk" is me.
What about your girlfriend? She never sits in the passenger seat?
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What about your girlfriend? She never sits in the passenger seat?


I know right?!?! I can’t believe that anyone who has driven a car older than a ‘91 model year is still alive! What would we do without air bags???


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What about your girlfriend? She never sits in the passenger seat?
For fun on a long trip sometime count the number of girlfriends riding in passenger seats with feet propped up touching the windshield and hoohah squarely in airbag range.
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I know right?!?! I can’t believe that anyone who has driven a car older than a ‘91 model year is still alive! What would we do without air bags???
Just curious, do you wear seat belts that weren't around until the early 60's? Or forsake 4-pt and 5-pt. harnesses for more serious offroading? I guess some would rather chance it and to hell with what could happen to a likely breadwinner for the family and parent to some kids. I've seen what happens to chests and faces after serious accidents where there were no air bags... not good.

Not to mention I have had two friends who died in separate slow-speed offroad Jeep accidents. It's been 10+ years and neither of their families are even close to being over it. One was wearing her seat belt without air bags, the other wasn't wearing his seat belt... he didn't believe in them while offroading.

How did we ever survive before seatbelts and air bags? We often did not.
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Just curious, do you wear seat belts that weren't around until the early 60's? Or forsake 4-pt and 5-pt. harnesses for more serious offroading? I guess some would rather chance it and to hell with what could happen to a likely breadwinner for the family and parent to some kids. I've seen what happens to chests and faces after serious accidents where there were no air bags... not good.

Not to mention I have had two friends who died in separate slow-speed offroad Jeep accidents. It's been 10+ years and neither of their families are even close to being over it. One was wearing her seat belt without air bags, the other wasn't wearing his seat belt... he didn't believe in them while offroading.

How did we ever survive before seatbelts and air bags? We often did not.
One of my saddest moments down here was when one of my contractor's son's went out up around Grand Junction and rolled his jeep. Killed him and his buddy and injured his (son's) girlfriend.

He was trying to apologize for not staying on schedule. I could hardly speak.
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Such heartwrenching stories, especially about the girl who some how may have been saved in a slow speed accident when the aiirbag isn't designed to go off at slow speeds.

This nanny crap inspires me to move up air bag removal on my list of mods.

Do you go around nannying the custom buggies too? Not seeing any airbags there.

Perhaps they could invent something to protect a breadwinner too, some sort of plan where you could pay a little each month to have a large benefit paid upon your death to your dependents. I might have to invent something like that, sounds like a moneymaker.

We all die. I'd choose dying in a rollover in my Jeep, a motorcycle crash, drowning at sea, or any of my extreme sports over old age or heart disease etc any day. If you live your life fearing of your death you never lived.
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Such heartwrenching stories, especially about the girl who some how may have been saved in a slow speed accident when the aiirbag isn't designed to go off at slow speeds.

This nanny crap inspires me to move up air bag removal on my list of mods.

Do you go around nannying the custom buggies too? Not seeing any airbags there.

Perhaps they could invent something to protect a breadwinner too, some sort of plan where you could pay a little each month to have a large benefit paid upon your death to your dependents. I might have to invent something like that, sounds like a moneymaker.

We all die. I'd choose dying in a rollover in my Jeep, a motorcycle crash, drowning at sea, or any of my extreme sports over old age or heart disease etc any day. If you live your life fearing of your death you never lived.
My neighbor and his snowmobile buddies had that attitude when they went up to highmark in a death zone. He wound up buried under 60 feet of snow for 3 months until he melted out.

Yee haw!
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There are other possible outcomes besides death....
Lots of young folks think that if anything happens that everything just ends in the blink of an eye... They don't consider catastrophic injuries, amputations, mutilations, paralysis, etc.... only takes an instant to face a lifetime of pain and or disability....
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Such heartwrenching stories, especially about the girl who some how may have been saved in a slow speed accident when the aiirbag isn't designed to go off at slow speeds.

This nanny crap inspires me to move up air bag removal on my list of mods.

Do you go around nannying the custom buggies too? Not seeing any airbags there.

Perhaps they could invent something to protect a breadwinner too, some sort of plan where you could pay a little each month to have a large benefit paid upon your death to your dependents. I might have to invent something like that, sounds like a moneymaker.

We all die. I'd choose dying in a rollover in my Jeep, a motorcycle crash, drowning at sea, or any of my extreme sports over old age or heart disease etc any day. If you live your life fearing of your death you never lived.
Ask your family/loved ones if they'd rather see you die in a fun sporty incident than continue being with and supporting them until you reach old age. Only thinking of yourself and wanting to die while having fun is selfish, especially if you have children. Maturity is realizing that.
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Only thinking of yourself and wanting to die while having fun is selfish, especially if you have children. Maturity is realizing that.

Agreed, but careful drivers may have forgotten how much is beyond our control. A few days ago, some azzhat crossed over the double-yellow and smacked my mirror. Then he tried to have me arrested by some corrupt psycho azzhat cops for leaving the scene of an accident (which he had left). Prior to that time I had forgotten that being a careful driver doesn't completely protect us.
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My neighbor and his snowmobile buddies had that attitude when they went up to highmark in a death zone. He wound up buried under 60 feet of snow for 3 months until he melted out.

Yee haw!
And how big was the smile on his face? I still remember the pain in my grandmothers face as she passed hooked to all sorts of machines. No thanks.
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Ask your family/loved ones if they'd rather see you die in a fun sporty incident than continue being with and supporting them until you reach old age. Only thinking of yourself and wanting to die while having fun is selfish, especially if you have children. Maturity is realizing that.
Ask yours how they feel about you taking a vehicle plastered with warnings about rollovers and deliberately modifying it in such a way that increases the dangers of a rollover so you can have sporty fun while lying to them about the false security of airbags that do not work in a roll over or low speed crash.

HELL YEAH I am selfish! We don't get to choose our death but I'd certainly choose dying having fun.

Since I don't have any children or a wife can I have your blessing oh Nattering Nabob of Nanny State?

If you live life fearing of your death you never lived.
A life unlived to it's fullest is a life wasted.
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There are other possible outcomes besides death....
Lots of young folks think that if anything happens that everything just ends in the blink of an eye... They don't consider catastrophic injuries, amputations, mutilations, paralysis, etc.... only takes an instant to face a lifetime of pain and or disability....
That's why you have a pact with trusted friends, a shotgun, and a DNR tattoo.
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I could be wrong as I'm no expert, but doesn't removing your front factory bumper, (like we all do), disconnect the air bag function? Mine wasn't stock when I bought it so I don't know how that all works. Just always thought it would.
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I could be wrong as I'm no expert, but doesn't removing your front factory bumper, (like we all do), disconnect the air bag function? Mine wasn't stock when I bought it so I don't know how that all works. Just always thought it would.
No. the airbags are controlled by impact sensors....
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I could be wrong as I'm no expert, but doesn't removing your front factory bumper, (like we all do), disconnect the air bag function? Mine wasn't stock when I bought it so I don't know how that all works. Just always thought it would.
Nope the air bag sensor is located under the center console at the very front, under the instrument cluster.
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To be more precise, it is on top of the trans tunnel under the heater box...
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I could be wrong as I'm no expert, but doesn't removing your front factory bumper, (like we all do), disconnect the air bag function? Mine wasn't stock when I bought it so I don't know how that all works. Just always thought it would.
You mean when you remove your 5mph impact rated factory bumper and selfishly replace it with a SOLID STEEL BATTERING RAM THAT MENACES WOMEN AND CHILDREN? No it does not affect the airbag sensors.
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You mean when you remove your 5mph impact rated factory bumper and selfishly replace it with a SOLID STEEL BATTERING RAM THAT MENACES WOMEN AND CHILDREN? No it does not affect the airbag sensors.
FYI the TJ's front crush zone is behind the bumper. You can see the section of the frame with the little holes in it where it's designed to crumple behind the bumper. The bumper fits over the frame butting up against the frame itself. In other words the bumper is not a participating component in the crumple design. Hit the bumper and you're hitting the frame.
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FYI the TJ's front crush zone is behind the bumper. You can see the section of the frame with the little holes in it where it's designed to crumple behind the bumper. The bumper fits over the frame butting up against the frame itself. In other words the bumper is not a participating component in the crumple design. Hit the bumper and you're hitting the frame.
FYI the crush zone doesn't come into play until speeds over 35 mph and the IIHS nor the NHTSA doesn't do any testing on aftermarket bumper systems affect on frame crush zones so you're talking out of your a55. HOWEVER, I'd be happy to test your theory anytime, with you in a new Prius with all modern safety features and my TJ making a 40 mph rear impact with my airbags disconnected and seat belts removed. Game?
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Hey to the OP very cool idea, I love to see cleaver ideas that I would never have come up with. Just not sure I would give up my AB's, but again still cool idea

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