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View Poll Results: truetrac while im in my axle?
No TrueTrac 3 50.00%
Keep it open 1 16.67%
Other(examples please) 2 33.33%
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Old 08-28-2016, 10:02 PM
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true trac in the snow poll!

So my friend has a 99 tj with 3.5 rockcrawler lift and 33s his rearend is a d35 with Yukon shafts and 3.07 gears. He is about to regear to 4.56 but is up in the air about while they are in the axle if he should have a true trac lsd put in. He does mild wheeling (mud and logging trails). We live in upstate ny in the Adirondack park. He has read multiple reviews about the true trac in the snow some saying its great and others saying that open is much better. Upgrading to d44 or 8.8. is not an option for him. please vote and post comments below

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I wheel in the snow with dual TrueTracs. The TrueTracs is definitely better compared to an open differential.
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I wheel in the snow with dual TrueTracs. The TrueTracs is definitely better compared to an open differential.
Is that on trails or road driving his jeep is his dd
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Just noticed I didn't put a voting option to get the true Trac so please comment.
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I have a TrueTrack in the front D30 and a Track Lock in my D44 rear. Works awesome in the snow. Especially when plowing snow. Having all 4 wheels pull is a big help.

The 2 downsides to the front TrueTrack is.
1. It pulls to one side until the gear oil gets good and warm. I have front locking hubs so this is really not an issue. If not you will have to deal with this every time you drive it.
2. The front end will under steer if you give too much throttle when turning. This means you turn the steering wheel but the Jeep just keeps going straight.

Now about strength. I left the rears open when I put 4.56 gears in my 1986 Ranger with STOCK axles. Think the diff size was 5.5"F & 7.5"R so they were tiny for running a 35" tire. This way I was less likely to damage anything.
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A TT would be perfect for what he is looking for.
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I'm happy with Trutrac in both my diff'so. Mine is a DD and weekend warrior. We have snow and ice here.
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I have a Trutac in the rear only (D35/4.56) and it was much better in the snow than open. I hardly felt like I needed to put it in 4wd, even in that one bad snowstorm we had in DC last year.
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I bought D44's front and rear both loaded with Truetracs specifically because I drive in the snow.
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D44's isn't in the cards for me now either. I run 33's with a D35 in the rear and a D30 up front, 5 spd. I regeared to 4.56's and put a Truetrac in the rear. I haven't notic d anything different
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Now I'm a little confused. I have always heard that Truetrac in the front will make your front push forward in the snow and ice. I mean if one wheel isn't grabbing, and the other kicks in, how can you go straight? If both are searching for traction?
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I heard this same thing but have also found threads where people love having true trac front and back on snow roads, I am also confused, I guess it's kinda like milk, some say it's bad for you, some say it's good.. I have no idea but it tastes delicious on my cheerios.. So does any one here have True Trac front and back who live in winter regions?? Please shed some light
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Now I'm a little confused. I have always heard that Truetrac in the front will make your front push forward in the snow and ice. I mean if one wheel isn't grabbing, and the other kicks in, how can you go straight? If both are searching for traction?
Whenever you have the wheels turned making a corner. As soon as both front tires spin. Away you go. lol
Your forward momentum is what keeps the Jeep going in a straight line.

When you are driving with open rears. 1 wheel can spin easily usually the one with the least traction. The other tire on the same axel will hold your line of travel because it's rolling and not spinning. This is kind of how anti lock brakes work. Whenever you lock up (stop) or spin any 2 tires on the same axle the vehicle will loose directional stability. This is how ABS allows the vehicle to stop in a straight line or allows you to steer around an obstacle.

When you are starting out from a stop its a little different. Then the front wheels will help pull you in the direction they are pointed. As soon as you build up some momentum the tables turn.
Momentum can be your friend. Like climbing a big hill or crossing a mud hole.
It can also be your worst enemy. Like when you can't get slowed down to make a turn or stop in time when the cars do in front of you do.
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I heard this same thing but have also found threads where people love having true trac front and back on snow roads, I am also confused, I guess it's kinda like milk, some say it's bad for you, some say it's good.. I have no idea but it tastes delicious on my cheerios.. So does any one here have True Trac front and back who live in winter regions?? Please shed some light
I'm close. TrueTrack front & Track Lock (stock/factory type) posi rear. My Jeep was open front & back when I bought it with 1,700 miles in 2001. This sucks to say the least. Switching both ends to limited slip diffs turned it into actual four wheel drive. All 4 can provide drive instead of just 1 front & 1 rear wheel.
This set up works great especially when plowing snow. You can also drift/power slide with all 4 wheels spinning rather easily.

If you are not a good winter driver I would stay away from anything but open diffs. You definitely need to know how to manage your directional stability as mentioned above. My Wrangler can swap ends quicker than most people can react.

Originally I installed a Powertracks locker in the open carrier of my D44 rear differential. I ended up removing it because of the bad road manners on dry pavement. The limited slip style diff works way better on the bare streets and in the snow. Rock crawling & mud bogging is another story. Then the locker is king.

On a side note. One bad storm in particular I was picking up my shoveler. Driving to and from plowing gigs can get frustrating because of all the slow pokes. We had some road rage going with some peep in an older F150. Next thing I know I'm drag racing this guy from a red light in 4"-6" of snow. Well we walked away from him from the start. Having both front wheels pull was a definite advantage. Having 300# of snow plow hanging off the front diddent hurt either.
As I drove by I looked over at him. I could easily see the one front tire on his truck was spinning way faster than the other.
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I wish I could afford a locker and the Dana 44 to put one in, Dana 44's in my area are a rare bird to find as well as the ford 8.8, And when one does come up it is crazy expensive, between 1000.00 - and 1500.00 for a used stock unconfirmed working condition Dana 44, The ford 8.8 are less but by the time you get done you were really better off just buying one from east coast, and junk yards are a dying breed here in upstate NY, so like I said other than ebay or Craigslist the chances of even finding one are slim to none!
So LSD True Trac for me!!! Just gotta figure out if I am going to put one up front as well
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Is that on trails or road driving his jeep is his dd
Both. Because the TrueTrac works off helical gears and not preloaded clutches, it does not give the surprises normally associated with a locker or clutch based LSD when coming off a complete stop i.e. when your Jeep's rear tries to get in front of you...
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I had front and rear TT in my 06 LJ and they were awesome! Great off road and no problems ever here in snowy NE Ohio



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I was just asking about this on another thread and was told that my Jeep would swap ends in a hurry. My Silverado has a truetracin the rear and I can't detect it engage at all, while my old G-80 would bang and cause traction issues. As far as I can tell, if the TrueTrac is operating properly and is indeed a TrueTrac, not a Detriot Locker, these are fine in snow. Front and rear. I'm going to be using my Jeep YJ for plowing. I'd really like to know the straight facts on this.
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Still???????
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Look, lockers and limited slips will add forward traction but will both cause the vehicle to be a handful and be much less stable on snow and ice street driving....

I guess if you ask the same question enough times you are bound to eventually get the answer you WANT to hear.....
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Look, lockers and limited slips will add forward traction but will both cause the vehicle to be a handful and be much less stable on snow and ice street driving....

I guess if you ask the same question enough times you are bound to eventually get the answer you WANT to hear.....
Not the case with Tru Trac LSD. I had them F&R and I live in NE Ohio and they were great in snow. Not a handful at all. My experience.

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Not the case with Tru Trac LSD. I had them F&R and I live in NE Ohio and they were great in snow. Not a handful at all. My experience.

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Same here, in NH. Massive increase in stability on snowy roads. No detriment to cornering abilty in 4wd either, certainly not an appreciable one.

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Look, lockers and limited slips will add forward traction but will both cause the vehicle to be a handful and be much less stable on snow and ice street driving....
It doesn't sound like you've actually owned a Truetrac. What you described is a trait of lockers and the clutch-based Tracloc when on ice or snow but not the gear-based Truetrac.
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Sure have.... light throttle it wasn't bad but heavier throttle it felt very similar to a locker....
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To be honest, I have a Detroit in the rear of my Jeep (ARB in front). I moved to Toronto where we get a lot more snow/ice that where this Jeep resided before. It took a bit of getting used to, but unless you are a bull in a china shop, even Detroit on ice isn't a big deal and it does add plenty more traction in most situations on snow/ice that is helpful. Just be gentle with the throttle from a stop and around corners. If TT is better than Detroit, I see no issue at all.
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