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Old 03-13-2019, 04:52 PM
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1993 YJ conversion to Hard Top?

I have a 1993 YJ currently with a soft top that has always been on it, has half doors with soft uppers. Thinking about buying a hard top to replace it and full doors. Jeep is kept in the garage and have access to store the top in garage when off, Jeep is a leisure drive not every day drive. Curious what opinions there are about this and will I have to do to convert from hard to soft if any?

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While you can get a hard top with a half door upper option, there are still some other considerations such as the leaf springs, the hard top and soft top Wranglers had different leaf packs.

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Welcome to the Forum ScottBenson,

I don't think the weight difference between the soft top/soft doors and the hard top/full doors will make a noticeable difference in how the Jeep drives. If anything, the additional weight should give a smoother ride.

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Springs are a non issue...

Nothing to it... remove soft top n half doors, install hardtop and full doors...
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While you can get a hard top with a half door upper option, there are still some other considerations such as the leaf springs, the hard top and soft top Wranglers had different leaf packs.
I have to question this info. I have never heard this before and I have never seen a part number difference for hard top vs soft top. Not to mention the fact that the weight difference between hard top and soft top cant be more than a couple teenagers vs a couple old fat guys.
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really nothing to do other than removing the soft top and hardware. You will want to put a gasket around the tub when you install it, I purchased a roll of 2" wide rubber gasket material from lowes. If you get some full doors make sure they are not the turn handle type on the outside as you would need to redo the strike, find the ones with the flapper type door handles. I personally didn't like the full doors as they were heavy taking on and off when putting on the bikini top. I added a hoist in my garage to make removing the top a one man job. Good luck on your conversion and welcome aboard.
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I have to question this info. I have never heard this before and I have never seen a part number difference for hard top vs soft top. Not to mention the fact that the weight difference between hard top and soft top cant be more than a couple teenagers vs a couple old fat guys.


I owned 2 YJ's in the 90's a black one with a hard top and my current white one with a soft top and the springs were different i think the rear pack had an extra leaf.

And back then i ordered a 3.5" superlift suspension kit and they asked me if i had a soft or a hard top and told me that eve the superlift springs were different depending on the top i had.

When i ordered my Reubicon Express springs i just ordered them online and there were no different part numbers so i guess they are all the same. It might be because YJ's are ageing and people just dont care about ride quality as much on a old $2000 YJ anymore.

Here are Mopar part numbers that even show there being 2 different springs one being heavy duty.
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I have to question this info. I have never heard this before and I have never seen a part number difference for hard top vs soft top. Not to mention the fact that the weight difference between hard top and soft top cant be more than a couple teenagers vs a couple old fat guys.
Any Mopar website or part catalog will show you what I stated is true.

You will see the part numbers are different between soft top & hard top, if that matters to some one is up for debate, I imagine it has to do primarily with weight distribution.

There was also a heavy duty leaf package for the plow/winch options that were available.
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Not being a spring expert at all. My question would be Why don't the aftermarket companies offer different sets in their replacements? We're the stock springs that soft to begin with that a couple hundred lbs makes that much of a difference. Seems like a large rear tire on an aftermarket tire carrier fits that bill. I bought mine with a lift so I don't have a previous reference point.
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As others have said the hard top from soft top is easy. I did it on mine and bought a set of modified TJ upper soft doors to match the top as I couldn't find hard doors that weren't made of gold or rotted to parchment paper thinness in places. As far as springs go I posted the question of the heavy duty vs light duty OME springs that Quadratech sells with specific mention of the hard top vs soft top and was told it doesn't make a difference with modern leaf springs as far as the top is concerned as the added weight of the fiberglass is negligible. Be sure to replace all the gaskets.

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Not being a spring expert at all. My question would be Why don't the aftermarket companies offer different sets in their replacements? We're the stock springs that soft to begin with that a couple hundred lbs makes that much of a difference. Seems like a large rear tire on an aftermarket tire carrier fits that bill. I bought mine with a lift so I don't have a previous reference point.



They used to back when the YJ's were still being sold and the TJ was just coming out. Now that the YJ is aging and is going on 30 years old the aftermarket just dont care and have moved on to the JK and JL. Most YJ's are ragged out rotting to the ground heeps that most people just throw a rough country lift on because it's the cheapest. They just want to get it up in the air and ride quality dont even enter their mind.
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There are still companies that offer varying springs.
Wrangler Leaf Springs - Stengel Bros Inc.
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I still think it is silly considering the negligible weight difference. The heavy front springs for a winch makes way more sense and even that is meh. IMHO of course
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Yep... like I said above... it's a non issue
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If I were to guess the reasoning it would be where the weight is located, when the weight is higher off the ground it might pose an issue in certain circumstances.

With all the stability issues the CJ’s had AMC/Chrysler threw a lot of engineering at the YJ to make it safer on the road, whether a lot of it was needed is up for debate.
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Springs are a non issue...

Nothing to it... remove soft top n half doors, install hardtop and full doors...
x2 The hard top only adds 150 lbs and the doors, <100. Don't think the addded weight is an issue.

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