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Old 09-26-2019, 11:23 AM
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89' rebuild

There are a few threads like this and I did not want to hijack them. Just curious for a starting point.

I have access to an 89' with a galvanized tub (I believe). I would like to get the engine, trans, clutch, steering, etc checked prior to an attempt.

Engine/trans first (and this threads point), do I ask a shop for a simple look, or give a specific list of what I want to know to make the decision (not sure what all is involved in that question). Compression, etc. Should I change plugs and fluids first? Engine runs.

Ultimately, I want to do the work with my 15 year old so he learns and understands whats involved in taking care of something he built.

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Prior to an attempt of what?

You can do your own compression test with a $30 compression tester and a spark plug wrench

Other than that check oil pressure and temperature and drive it.... that's really all the shop would do

Then comes checking hoses and belts, make sure they're not cracked or hard. Check all the fluids. If in doubt just replace cap rotor plugs wires. These are all things you can do yourself you don't need to shop.

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Prior to an attempt of what?

You can do your own compression test with a $30 compression tester and a spark plug wrench

Other than that check oil pressure and temperature and drive it.... that's really all the shop would do

Then comes checking hoses and belts, make sure they're not cracked or hard. Check all the fluids. If in doubt just replace cap rotor plugs wires. These are all things you can do yourself you don't need to shop.
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G, I have to admire your desire to teach a young man, but I respectfully ask you this: If you have to ask us, what to ask a shop, then how exactly are you planning to teach about working on a Jeep.
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G, I have to admire your desire to teach a young man, but I respectfully ask you this: If you have to ask us, what to ask a shop, then how exactly are you planning to teach about working on a Jeep.
I disagree, a few years ago I knew absolutely nothing about Jeeps, other than I wanted one, and could Justify, (at least in my mind) having one around. Been a jeep family for decades, but always something more practical.
It is so hard to find common ground with my kids these days to find something that they show any interest in for me to share some of the "seat of the pants knowledge" that I grew up learning with my Dad. My Jeep project has been a great opportunity to do just that.

For example, Right now I'm smack dab in the middle of swapping my weaker transmission with a stronger ne from a different manufacturer, My 22 Yr old son spend the day with me helping get the old one out, cleaning up the parts and getting ready to install a new one. I get the chance to show him how to pull and replace a clutch, explain how it all works, he gets to use real tools, on real machinery, do something with his hands, and eventually take it out and romp the heck out of it. While waiting for some parts to show up, we took the heater box out of the way just to replace the radio antenna and put it back. He got to see how "creative" wiring under the dash means the speakers sometimes don't work, how to read wiring schematics, and properly done wiring will last a lifetime, we had to open up the transfer case to adapt it for the new transmission and put it back together, all the while what I didn't already know, I was able to learn from My shop Manuals, The internet, YouTube, and questions to guys on this forum who are always ready to help advise, and share their experiences, (Which I do find to be the best teacher), and that was just yesterday.


Geenowalker, If you can get your kid to hang out under the hood with you, it's worth all the time and every penny you drop into your jeep. Looking for what to buy requires research. There are several different recent threads with guys looking to buy their first jeep, wanting to know what to look for, you should look back at some of them, and then with a little basic model knowledge you can shop for and ask us better questions about the things to look for.


Disclaimer... The opinions in this forum are often just that, with the variety of posters on here you will get all four sides of the house, sometimes we are all in agreement, sometimes they vary widely. There is hundreds of years of experience on this forum, so you can put a lot of trust in what is said, just make sure it falls in line with your purpose. And Oh Yeah, Let the kid drive the jeep once in a while, That really keeps his interest up.....Good Luck.
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There not hard to work on at all as long as the frame is solid you'll have a good start plus all the info on here and most of the members give good advice
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G, I have to admire your desire to teach a young man, but I respectfully ask you this: If you have to ask us, what to ask a shop, then how exactly are you planning to teach about working on a Jeep.
I disagree, a few years ago I knew absolutely nothing about Jeeps, other than I wanted one, and could Justify, (at least in my mind) having one around. Been a jeep family for decades, but always something more practical.
It is so hard to find common ground with my kids these days to find something that they show any interest in for me to share some of the "seat of the pants knowledge" that I grew up learning with my Dad. My Jeep project has been a great opportunity to do just that.

For example, Right now I'm smack dab in the middle of swapping my weaker transmission with a stronger ne from a different manufacturer, My 22 Yr old son spend the day with me helping get the old one out, cleaning up the parts and getting ready to install a new one. I get the chance to show him how to pull and replace a clutch, explain how it all works, he gets to use real tools, on real machinery, do something with his hands, and eventually take it out and romp the heck out of it. While waiting for some parts to show up, we took the heater box out of the way just to replace the radio antenna and put it back. He got to see how "creative" wiring under the dash means the speakers sometimes don't work, how to read wiring schematics, and properly done wiring will last a lifetime, we had to open up the transfer case to adapt it for the new transmission and put it back together, all the while what I didn't already know, I was able to learn from My shop Manuals, The internet, YouTube, and questions to guys on this forum who are always ready to help advise, and share their experiences, (Which I do find to be the best teacher), and that was just yesterday.


Geenowalker, If you can get your kid to hang out under the hood with you, it's worth all the time and every penny you drop into your jeep. Looking for what to buy requires research. There are several different recent threads with guys looking to buy their first jeep, wanting to know what to look for, you should look back at some of them, and then with a little basic model knowledge you can shop for and ask us better questions about the things to look for.


Disclaimer... The opinions in this forum are often just that, with the variety of posters on here you will get all four sides of the house, sometimes we are all in agreement, sometimes they vary widely. There is hundreds of years of experience on this forum, so you can put a lot of trust in what is said, just make sure it falls in line with your purpose. And Oh Yeah, Let the kid drive the jeep once in a while, That really keeps his interest up.....Good Luck.
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G, I have to admire your desire to teach a young man, but I respectfully ask you this: If you have to ask us, what to ask a shop, then how exactly are you planning to teach about working on a Jeep.
From the knowledgeable members on here willing to answer his questions
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G, I have to admire your desire to teach a young man, but I respectfully ask you this: If you have to ask us, what to ask a shop, then how exactly are you planning to teach about working on a Jeep.
it would seem to me that he's teaching the kid to recognize that things that need to be taken care of and if you don't know how to do that yourself you need to reach out and find people who do you know how to do that so you can make sure things are done right.

You don't have to know everything to teach a kid....
Heck how many parents have poured through math books for hours to figure out how to help their kid w homework?
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Oh wow! I sure didn't mean to offend anyone by asking a question, so there are no statement(s) that I made to either agree or disagree with. Touchy, feely bunch today...
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Oh wow! I sure didn't mean to offend anyone by asking a question, so there are no statement(s) that I made to either agree or disagree with. Touchy, feely bunch today...
Yeah, leftover from Friday the 13th......
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Oh wow! I sure didn't mean to offend anyone by asking a question, so there are no statement(s) that I made to either agree or disagree with. Touchy, feely bunch today...
Hmmm I wonder who was offended?
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Me personally I would look for a 91 through 95 with a 4.0
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Hmmm I wonder who was offended?
I wasn't offended at all, just relaying that I don't think Geenowalker has to know anything about Jeeps to get started on a project they can work on and both learn about at the same time.
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The YJ is a relatively simple machine. It is a good vehicle to learn on and as Got it at last said, if you can get your kid interested to work on it and learn with you what could be better.

To the original question.... driving it will teach you the most about a vehicle. Turn off the radio. Listen for strange noises from the engine, transmission, and rear end. Pay attention to vibrations and where you feel them. Front axle vibrations will be felt in the steering wheel. Rear axle, in the seat. A slightly newer jeep would definitely be preferred to get yourself the 4.0 engine, the the 4.2 is still a great engine.
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Sorry to create a ruckus. The engine trans is the only think I am not comfortable with. Everything else is not hard (or I have done in past). If I have to rebuild the engine or trans, so be it, we will struggle through it (or badger the crap out of people here).

Failure generates the best lessons in life. For me, this is time spent with my kids that is gold. If you are familiar with Harry Chapin's "Cats in the Cradle", and have teenagers, you will know why I am terrified.
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Failure generates the best lessons in life. For me, this is time spent with my kids that is gold. If you are familiar with Harry Chapin's "Cats in the Cradle", and have teenagers, you will know why I am terrified.
Good stuff right there. I have a 16 yr old and a 20 yr old. Where doe that put me??? third verse.
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Good stuff right there. I have a 16 yr old and a 20 yr old. Where doe that put me??? third verse.
Write your own forth verse.
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