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Old 05-23-2015, 09:49 PM
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Average criminal prevention

I am looking for ideas on how to keep an average jeep thief from driving away with my YJ (4cyl manual 2.5l). Im not talking about the guys with a helicopter and automatic wespons...just that one guy wondering around with a screw driver. I dont want to go with an alarm because my understanding is it just makes some noise. Im thinking of just placing an interrupt switch on one escential wire and hiding it under the dash so its not obvious to onlookers and can be switched easily (yeah i know but the average criminal wont figure that out in a few minutes) Any idea on what that should be?

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This is what I use but with a gem lock, the guy lives here Long Island (sim jack) and showed me the different types..

simjack.com:8185/Ultra_Cargard.htm

Forget about the fuel cut off switch and the rest of the nonsense by then they would have torn your steering column up even though they couldn't steal it, your left with a mess.

This is a visible deterrent and is solid protection
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If you have an electric fuel pump, putting a cutoff switch to the pump is best. You do this by putting a toggle switch on the ground wire to the pump, not the power wire. This works much better than a starter cut off which doesn't stop a jump start.
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This is what I use but with a gem lock, the guy lives here Long Island (sim jack) and showed me the different types.. simjack.com:8185/Ultra_Cargard.htm Forget about the fuel cut off switch and the rest of the nonsense by then they would have torn your steering column up even though they couldn't steal it, your left with a mess. This is a visible deterrent and is solid protection
I wouldn't think that he'd need anything like that in Wisconsin, my bet would just be for a fuel pump switch. Hide it somewhere good though, I wouldn't think that most people with a screwdriver would into parting out your jeep in a parking lot but, idk.
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This is what I use but with a gem lock, the guy lives here Long Island (sim jack) and showed me the different types.. simjack.com:8185/Ultra_Cargard.htm Forget about the fuel cut off switch and the rest of the nonsense by then they would have torn your steering column up even though they couldn't steal it, your left with a mess. This is a visible deterrent and is solid protection
This idea looks ok, so its just a cover for the ignition and wires? What about "popping the clutch?" I dont know how to do that (below average criminal) but ive heard it can be done...

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I wouldn't think that he'd need anything like that in Wisconsin, my bet would just be for a fuel pump switch. Hide it somewhere good though, I wouldn't think that most people with a screwdriver would into parting out your jeep in a parking lot but, idk.
It is true im not worried about my area of Wisconsin...i am moving soon to an unframiliar area and city which has got me thinking it may be a good idea to have some kind of deterant.
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popping the clutch would involve turning on the key, putting the jeep into 2nd gear and releasing the clutch ounce you had the jeep moving fast enough to turn the engine. The wheels replace the starter.
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I'm old school I guess, I still use an Ultra Club I've had for about 20 years now. Never had a vehicle stolen using one of these. I make sure to put it on every night and even when parking in some parking lots that look kinda sketchy.
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I almost got a grant removable steering wheel, but I found the sim jack and thought it a better and more cost effective alternative.

Just like the club it's not professional thief proof but gives me piece of mind, where the cut off switch theory's did not.

The jeep is parked in my garage at home, I was more concerned when I was at the beach or in town.
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I almost got a grant removable steering wheel, but I found the sim jack and thought it a better and more cost effective alternative. Just like the club it's not professional thief proof but gives me piece of mind, where the cut off switch theory's did not. The jeep is parked in my garage at home, I was more concerned when I was at the beach or in town.
I think im almost sold on the simjack dispite having to put it on and off and carry it around in the jeep all the time....i dont know if you know the answer to this but my only concern would be how easy the lock is to pick...ive seen those lock picking guns in action and they are cheap enough that anyone can afford them.
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Cant offer to much knowledge on picking it. I use a similar locking mechanism for my high dollar bicycle and its never been touched.
Give him a call (goes right to his cell).

If some one really wants it off.. there going to get it off but it wont be easy or quick.

Sits behind the seat nicely or on the passenger floor, takes seconds to put on.. a little longer if you don't open your door.

There was one more option I thought about before this, and it was a lock that went over the gas pedal & clutch (prevented them from moving) but it seemed like it would be to cumbersome to put on/take off all the time
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IRQ I like that system as well, I wouldn't mind having to carry that thing around for piece of mind. Super nice and clean Jeep by the way.
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Unless you are living in milwaukee shouldn't be a huge issue. Now that I live in madison (outside) never had much of a worry. I guess maybe Green Bay is getting bad in some part but honestly most of wisconsin is very relax.

I had a switch on my old YJ hidden under the dash that stopped the fuel pump ground. This was only while living outside of Wisco.
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I first typed."who wants to steal a square head lighted Jeep with a 4 cylinder, but my wife says sometimes I can be insensitive so, I won't say that. LOL !
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I first typed."who wants to steal a square head lighted Jeep with a 4 cylinder, but my wife says sometimes I can be insensitive so, I won't say that. LOL !
having owned a 4 banger YJ I was thinking the same thing then I cancelled my comment earlier. I found trail rash and rusty panels pretty much took care of any ideas of stealing it.
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You know, you shouldn't pick on us 4 banger owners. Some of us are very sensitive and our feelings easily hurt. NOT!!!
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Yeah you have to have thick skin to drive a 4 cylinder YJ. I loved mine. But people certainly like to hate on it. If it not the engine it's the square headlights.
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I put a kill switch on one of my cars that kills power to the ignition coil. Killing power to the fuel pump would work equally well. A switch to kill power to the ECM would also work.
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.......my jeep is too stealable! Lol. Hey, people will steal anything if they can.
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I am in Southern New Mexico about 40 miles from El Paso, TX. I have used the Grant removable steering wheel on my YJ for several years without issue.
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I hear about people with soft tops leaving their doors unlocked for fear of someone cutting their way in, anyone doing this and has it worked?
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I hear about people with soft tops leaving their doors unlocked for fear of someone cutting their way in, anyone doing this and has it worked?
I never lock my yj, I keep any valuables in the lock box
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12 years of owning a wrangler. Never had issues but I keep it unlocked with nothing of value in it. Other then spent casings in the console
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In San Diego they are the hottest vehicle for theft and end up in Mexico an hour after its stolen. They even have been flat bedding them so not much you can do about it.
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Not going to lie all I have is a one of theses BARS aka a steering wheel locker ( be cases my jeep starts without the key ) and for hiding stuff I put my radio head I put it in the glove box and lock it after that I put a towel over my sub in the back. After people see the giant red poll on my steering wheel they kinda stay away from it
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I work retail and someone had their truck stolen a few weeks back. I'd read about the various clubs and things people use to deter jackass' from messing with their jeeps.. I don't have a top so my YJ is open 24/7. I have an aftermarket stereo in that does not work and people have tried stealing it, they broke the plastics.

Anyway, I thought of a quick inexpensive way to help ward off idiots. My idea is, if someone wants my Jeep bad enough they're going to take it.

I padlocked my seat up. Every time I get out, I raise my seat and jam a padlock in it.

Took about 30 minutes to do. (probably would have been less had I owned a short bit)

The seat remains in the upright position, I'm sure someone can cut the lock, I might weld on a few steel tabs to make it super difficult to fit a hack saw or cordless sawzall in there, at that point they can cut my seat out LOL.

If someone managed to recline my seat all the way back they'd have to have another set of knees to get to the pedals.

Check it it..good luck so far



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That is actually an excellent idea in theory! I like that
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Leave mine unlocked. With a couple dollars worth of change in the cup holder. Had change come up missing. But no damage to jeep.

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