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Old 11-06-2017, 04:51 PM
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Better headlights for the old 89 YJ.

Looking for something better than my old yellow lights. I would prefer something I can pick up local with cash (momma doesnít have to know everything). Autozone, NAPA, or such.
Would like to spend $50-100, not looking for JW Speaker type stuff. Would also prefer replaceable bulbs.
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Better headlights for the old 89 YJ.

I suggest the headlight relay upgrade as well as some h4(replaceable bulbs)....a little over $100 and much better. I have the standard 55/60 bulbs now but can be changed for the 100w bulbs at a later date...


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The relay is an absolute must. With just the relay, I increased my voltage at the headlight plugs from 10.something to 11.32 with the engine off.

Relay on EBAY for $15.00 to $25.00.
Amazon Prime has the relay for $20.00 and free shipping.
I made my own, but it would have been easier and cheaper to buy a pre-made harness.

Quadratec has Rampage H4s for $85.00 a pair. These are DOT headlamps with bulbs.
They also have Hella H4s for $85.00 a pair and these are the better E-Code lamps but without bulbs.
Free shipping from Qtec over $50.00.
NAPA has H4 bulbs for $20.00 a pair.

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Is this relay you talk about a standard thing or something special? From the sounds of it, voltage is being lost through poor wiring size? Are you just putting a relay, activated by the light switch, in line to a heavier gauge wire from the battery?
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Is this relay you talk about a standard thing or something special? From the sounds of it, voltage is being lost through poor wiring size? Are you just putting a relay, activated by the light switch, in line to a heavier gauge wire from the battery?
You got it! Just simple relays - one for low, one high.

Some people do their own wiring. Plug and play versions are available on Amazon and Ebay.
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If you do an H4 conversion, get this and you probably wont need to do the relay. SUPER bright on high beams, polite on low when aimed properly.

https://www.amazon.com/BEAMTECH-Head...eywords=H4+LED
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If you do an H4 conversion, get this and you probably wont need to do the relay. SUPER bright on high beams, polite on low when aimed properly.

https://www.amazon.com/BEAMTECH-Head...eywords=H4+LED
According to what I see on the Beamtech ad, there's no listing for H4 bulb replacement.

Reviews are pretty good. I wonder why no H4?

At 50W. I would still want to do a relay conversion to provide full battery voltage. Beamtech ad states 32V. bulb. I assume there is a transformer built into the bulb.

If they work as well as the reviews claim, the cost/benefit makes these bulbs seem like a good deal.

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Something like this?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/p...SABEgJh0vD_BwE


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Something like this?
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Okay, thanks.
So I need that harness, then go to autozone (or such) and buy light housings and H4 bulbs?


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Better headlights for the old 89 YJ.

Yes, I just did my lights a week ago...had the harness done already a few months ago and it alone improved the brightness. I got the Hella e codes with standard 55/60w bulbs(for now ) Never looked at local auto part stores??? Amazon was my friend.


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The relay kit posted by steves92 (or one like it) is what you want. Your link to the headlight wires at Summit Racing are simply replacement plugs that go onto the headlight bulbs.

You may be able to buy a headlight relay harness locally but I don't remember ever seeing any.
Same thing for the H4 conversion.

The polycarbonate lenses are cheaper, but they may become cloudy with time. I made sure the lights I bought had glass lenses.

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Better headlights for the old 89 YJ.

Are the Hellaís and Rampage both glass?
So even if I buy the Hella H4ís from quadratic Iíll need the harness, correct?
If so, is the harness a solder item, splice and crimp, or...


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The Hellas are glassharness is plug and play, takes about 20 mins or so to put in. Simply zip tie it along the wire loom below the radiator and up to each headlight location and secure the relay somewhere on the wheel well and terminate your power wire.


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The Hellas are glassharness is plug and play, takes about 20 mins or so to put in. Simply zip tie it along the wire loom below the radiator and up to each headlight location and secure the relay somewhere on the wheel well and terminate your power wire.


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Awesome. This is on my list.
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The Hellas are glassharness is plug and play, takes about 20 mins or so to put in. Simply zip tie it along the wire loom below the radiator and up to each headlight location and secure the relay somewhere on the wheel well and terminate your power wire.


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Would you please explain ďterminate your power wireĒ?


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Harness comes with large gauge red wire with ring lug, I believe. If Iím not mistaken, instructions stated to attach under power wire nut on fuse panel in front of battery?


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Iíll try and get a pic later if you want?


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Are the Hellaís and Rampage both glass?
So even if I buy the Hella H4ís from quadratic Iíll need the harness, correct?
If so, is the harness a solder item, splice and crimp, or...
I have the Rampage conversion on my YJ and they have glass lenses.
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Better headlights for the old 89 YJ.

Okay, Thanks Jak_Rak.
I would love a pic, but no big hurry, Steve.
I had to pull the winch last night and it really got me thinking. Iím now deciding between:
Upgrade my lights like weíve been discussing, or
Just slap in some silver stars and put some auxiliary lights on my bumper.
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Okay, Thanks Jak_Rak.
I would love a pic, but no big hurry, Steve.
I had to pull the winch last night and it really got me thinking. Iím now deciding between:
Upgrade my lights like weíve been discussing, or
Just slap in some silver stars and put some auxiliary lights on my bumper.

Thoughts...
Personally, I would do the headlight upgrade first.

The total cost for swapping out to halogens was under $100 ($60 for the Rampage conversion kit and $25 for the harness). I'm guessing that the cost of new SilverStars plus the cost of a decent set of LED or halogen lights is probably going to total more than that.

The PO of my YJ had SilverStars installed, and while they were probably brighter than standard sealed beams, they were nothing like the new H4s. I like the fact that the light is clean and bright, and aimed properly, I'm not blinding oncoming drivers. Also, I don't have to worry about turning a set of aux lights on and off depending on the traffic conditions. (Around here, the police don't take kindly to running "off road" lights on the highway.)

I don't think some extra lights are a bad idea, just maybe not the best solution for the issue at hand. Just my two copper, YMMV, etc..
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No problem, but looking at your pic may bring up an issue.
I canít seem to locate a fuse box by my battery. Actually, I can find one anywhere under the hood.
The only fuse box I have found was under the e-brake on the firewall.
Wonder where my power would come from?



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Woh...Iím assuming you could go directly to the battery?


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Personally, I would do the headlight upgrade first.

The total cost for swapping out to halogens was under $100 ($60 for the Rampage conversion kit and $25 for the harness). I'm guessing that the cost of new SilverStars plus the cost of a decent set of LED or halogen lights is probably going to total more than that.

The PO of my YJ had SilverStars installed, and while they were probably brighter than standard sealed beams, they were nothing like the new H4s. I like the fact that the light is clean and bright, and aimed properly, I'm not blinding oncoming drivers. Also, I don't have to worry about turning a set of aux lights on and off depending on the traffic conditions. (Around here, the police don't take kindly to running "off road" lights on the highway.)

I don't think some extra lights are a bad idea, just maybe not the best solution for the issue at hand. Just my two copper, YMMV, etc..


Again, thanks.
I think youíre right and am leaning that direction.
The auxiliary lights would only be for off-road.
Iíve had my winch on for less than a year.
But. Small town. Everyone knows everyone. Everyone has a way of getting your number. So, I get to winch people out of bad spots. Havenít used it yet for self-recovery, lol.


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1987 -1990 only have the fuse panel by the E-brake. 1991 & newer YJs have a PDC (Power Distribution Center) by the battery (like steves92 pic).
'87 -'90 have fuseable links from the solenoid to wherever the power goes (like to the fuse panel). '91 & newer have maxi-fuses at the PDC.

I ran the power to my headlight relays off the (+) terminal of my battery and through the relays to the headlights.

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Instructor9 if you do this mod will you take pics of the complete install including parts bought, relay install from starting point to headlamp and finished mod. I have an 89 as well. This thread is great but is hard to follow from an installation stand point.
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1987 -1990 only have the fuse panel by the E-brake. 1991 & newer YJs have a PDC (Power Distribution Center) by the battery (like steves92 pic).

'87 -'90 have fuseable links from the solenoid to wherever the power goes (like to the fuse panel). '91 & newer have maxi-fuses at the PDC.



I ran the power to my headlight relays off the (+) terminal of my battery and through the relays to the headlights.



Good Luck, L.M.


So, just wanting to be sure Iím not missing something.
I could take the power (red) wire and hook it to the battery (Iím guessing it has a ring that would go around my battery terminal bolt?). Then run that wire to the relay and mount it to my fender-wall (drill a couple of holes and use a couple of small bolts?). And probably a ground that gets connected somewhere?
Run the wires from the relays to the headlights? The wires from the relay that go to the bulbs already have the correct H4 plug on it?
If all of that is correct, my question is (and boy, this may sound really dumb to you-guys that know a lot more about this stuff than I) how do I turn them on and off?



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So, just wanting to be sure Iím not missing something.
I could take the power (red) wire and hook it to the battery (Iím guessing it has a ring that would go around my battery terminal bolt?). Then run that wire to the relay and mount it to my fender-wall (drill a couple of holes and use a couple of small bolts?). And probably a ground that gets connected somewhere?
Run the wires from the relays to the headlights? The wires from the relay that go to the bulbs already have the correct H4 plug on it?
If all of that is correct, my question is (and boy, this may sound really dumb to you-guys that know a lot more about this stuff than I) how do I turn them on and off?
There is a plug on the harness that takes one of the old headlight connectors, which is activated by the headlight switch. The switch then powers the relays on and off, and the relays do the electrical "heavy lifting" to get the juice to the lights.
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So, just wanting to be sure Iím not missing something.
I could take the power (red) wire and hook it to the battery (Iím guessing it has a ring that would go around my battery terminal bolt?).

That's what I would expect on a pre-made harness. I made mine from scratch, so I don't know exactly how someone else makes theirs.
Yes, the red wire should be a bit heavier than the rest of the wires and it attaches directly to the battery.

Then run that wire to the relay and mount it to my fender-wall (drill a couple of holes and use a couple of small bolts?).

Yes, I used sheet metal screws and grounded each relay right at the screw that attaches it to my fender apron. Bolts should be even more secure.

And probably a ground that gets connected somewhere?

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Run the wires from the relays to the headlights? The wires from the relay that go to the bulbs already have the correct H4 plug on it?
If all of that is correct, my question is (and boy, this may sound really dumb to you-guys that know a lot more about this stuff than I) how do I turn them on and off?

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There is a plug on the harness that takes one of the old headlight connectors, which is activated by the headlight switch. The switch then powers the relays on and off, and the relays do the electrical "heavy lifting" to get the juice to the lights.
As Jak_Rak states, when you turn your headlights on, the (small amount of) power from your headlight switch activates the relays and your headlights get the benefit of full power from the battery through the new relays.

The reason this works so well is that our headlight switches are designed to carry just enough power for old style incandescent sealed beams. When we try to run more electricity through the headlight switch than it was designed for, there is a circuit breaker inside the switch that pops. When that breaker pops, no more power goes to the headlights. This usually happens at night, when we need our headlights the most.

Good Luck, L.M.

EDIT....I guess I should have underlined or made the additions in your quote a different color so that they'd show up as changes.

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1987 YJ-4.2L-Standard Shift- Re-manufactured Carter Carb-2" body Lift-31X10.5X15 BFG KOs-190K Miles No back seat.
HEI distributor with computer and all related relays and wiring removed.
12K Badlands winch with dual batteries.
Warn front bumper. Matching imitation Warn bumper on the rear.
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