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Old 07-13-2012, 09:40 AM
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Bikini top question

I have a 90 YJ and just was wondering if my new bestop bikini top will fit better without the roll bar pads on the roll bars. The pads that go to the windshield let the top roll a little bit because you can rotate it.

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On my 88 I have the pads in place with my bikini top and have no problems. It's a Bestop as well.

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Old 07-13-2012, 12:51 PM
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It's not realy a problem the sides with the Velcro straps kind of roll in toward the center of jeep creating a low spot in fabric above driver and passengers head. When it rains the water pools in this area. Just did not know if it would not slide if there was no pads on it.
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Water pooling is normal I'm afraid but here in the desert we don't get much rain. One of the guys in the club made a support out of PVC pipe that holds the top up just enough to keep the water from pooling. You might want to do a search and see if you can find something along those lines.
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I think I might get some Velcro with adhesive and attach it to bar under pad to keep pad from turning on bar. Not a big deal thanks for the response
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nope, you can try it if you want, but it wont matter. when it rains, you are still gonna get the puddles. just a thing with bikini tops.

i heard that the newer jeeps with the family bars have a bikini that fits much tighter, but if you just have the old style show bar with the angled struts in the back, same as mine, I have tried almost everything known to man to stop the puddling.

even went as far as making bows for under it kinda like the tonneau cover on my pickup, but they wont stay still going down the road....good luck.
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Yep I have to "kid crusher" roll bars. Guess I'll just have to live with it. I sure do like the bikini top. I have leather power seats out of a 97 grand Cherokee in my YJ so with out the bikini top the sun heats up those seats real hot! Now I have some shade on them it's a lot better.
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As stated my friend made a bow for his using 2 pieces of 3" or 4" PVC "T" fittings, cut in half and they sit over the side rails above the driver and passanger seats. Then he has a peice of 1" that fits into the "T" and makes the bow. I will have to get some pics this weekend and post them when I can.
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I have a 90 YJ and just was wondering if my new bestop bikini top will fit better without the roll bar pads on the roll bars. The pads that go to the windshield let the top roll a little bit because you can rotate it.
Negative.
I had the same thought as you and removed the pads, only made it worse.
The design is flawed, no matter how much you tug to get a drum tight fit the velcro ends up attached to itself making a circle that eventually spins, pad or no pad.

I like the idea of seperate velcro strips attached with adhesive and believe they would work better on the naked bar as the pads would still spin.
I think I'll also fabricate a PVC bow this weekend.

Be advised when removing bar extension you may run into a tamper proof T50. It is the only tamper proof torx bolt I've come across on my '90 thus far.
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Yea do not really want to mess with taking off those bars to take the pads off. Do not understand why they did not put zippers on those pads. Might just bite the bullet and cut the pads off! I think the Velcro might work.
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Big improvement.

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That is nice. Does it help with flapping noise at all?
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Yes.
As discussed earlier even tightening everything down drum tight, the velcro connections "rolled" creating excess canvas from door to door, even though the three straps in the back and the windshield channel remained tight.

The 2.5" Tee fittings slide over the padded extension bar.
I cut the 1/2" rod 46.5 inches. If I did it over again I'd go a little longer.

Out the door @ Lowes for $5.29
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Big improvement.

That is exactly what my friend did, thanks for posting the pic as I was not able to get in touch with him.
My friend cut the back side of the "T" so the whole thing slips on is the only difference I can see.
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I just got this in the mail last week from Quadratec, its called the Top Prop. It is a fiberglass flat bar and works amazingly. Comes with all necessary install hardware. Took 10 minutes. No more pooling and a quieter ride as well. $40 with free shipping if you search through google shopping....

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As much as I like Quadratec I had to pass on that and give the PVC a try first.

The Tee joints are $1.78 each and 8' of 1/2" is $1.98
Since I have enough 1/2" left I'm going to pick up a couple more Tee's and try two ribs. Making the rib near the back a little higher as the roll bar is higher than the windshield.

I'll also hit everything with gray spray paint so I don't ride around looking like a PVC salesman.
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I actually built one of the PVC versions over the weekend. I couldn't find 1/2" T's so I got 3/4" and 3/4" pipe. It's a little too stiff to bend, and heating it creates all sorts of problems. It doesn't want to bend necessarily where you want it to. But the idea is great, and I'm going to make another tonite with 1/2" pipe. I hate to admit this, but if you cut one of your kid's pool "noodles", slice it down the middle and paint it black, it makes a pretty good looking pad for the bar.
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The 1/2" bends perfect but, is still stout enough.
I couldn't find the 2" by 1/2" Tees at Home Depot, Lowes had them but I had to dig. People pull them out of the box look at them, then throw them back in the wrong box.

Twice now Lowes has rang me up as these being 2" Tees.
The outside diameter is closer to being 2.75".
I guess they are sized by the interior size of pipe they are connecting and they have to fit over that. I erroneously called these 2.5" Tees in a post above.

Also, the half inch hole comes in both threaded and non threaded.
I'll keep the noodle idea on the back burner if I need it.
I'm determined to make this bikini top ride like a Cadillac.
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The 1/2" bends perfect but, is still stout enough.
I couldn't find the 2" by 1/2" Tees at Home Depot, Lowes had them but I had to dig. People pull them out of the box look at them, then throw them back in the wrong box.

Twice now Lowes has rang me up as these being 2" Tees.
The outside diameter is closer to being 2.75".
I guess they are sized by the interior size of pipe they are connecting and they have to fit over that. I erroneously called these 2.5" Tees in a post above.

Also, the half inch hole comes in both threaded and non threaded.
I'll keep the noodle idea on the back burner if I need it.
I'm determined to make this bikini top ride like a Cadillac.
I went to Lowes at noon and got 2 tee's and 6 ft of 1/2". Can't wait to get home. Sure beats $39.95 + shipping.
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I went to Lowes at noon and got 2 tee's and 6 ft of 1/2". Can't wait to get home. Sure beats $39.95 + shipping.
Free shipping when you search for the part through google shopping. Honestly, $40 to get it delivered to my door in a nice looking design that doesnt need paint or any work on my part other than tightening 4 pipe clamps.... That is well worth it to me. Going to home depot would take my 1-2 hours plus cutting and measuring and redoing it, then painting it... To each his own, but for $40, so much easier in my opinion
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Hey, to each his own. I was tempted to order one, and still might. I don't like the way the pvc bows in the middle. Looks like over time the top would start to wear. snowbrd84, do you know the demensions of the bow from Quadratech? It would have to be close to 48" to work for me.
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Hey, to each his own. I was tempted to order one, and still might. I don't like the way the pvc bows in the middle. Looks like over time the top would start to wear. snowbrd84, do you know the demensions of the bow from Quadratech? It would have to be close to 48" to work for me.
I can measure it after work, ill take a pic as well. I just like it for simplicity. And there is nothing more embarrassing than giving someone a ride and having water falling on them from the bikini top...
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I can measure it after work, ill take a pic as well. I just like it for simplicity. And there is nothing more embarrassing than giving someone a ride and having water falling on them from the bikini top...
I'd appreciate that. I'm using mine on my soft top to keep the flapping at a minimum. I have a Rampage top, it's as tight as it will go, and with the front windows off or open it flaps like crazy on the highway. Sounds like it is going to tear off. I went ahead and built my pvc bow and it works pretty well, but I'm not sure in the long run if it is going to hurt my top.
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... I went ahead and built my pvc bow and it works pretty well, but I'm not sure in the long run if it is going to hurt my top.
You can affect the amount of bow without cutting the pipe.
Just slide the whole apparatus forward for less bow, rearward for more bow.

This is because the roll bar extensions are not parrallel.
They are 48 inches at the windshield and 45 inches at the rollbar.

I'm running two sets of PVC, got everything tight and jumped on the highway.
I was dismayed when the canvas lifted off both pipes by an inch.

Then I pulled over and took out the new slack.
Now I'm cooking with gas.
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1) Flapping greatly dimminshed
2) No rainwater retention
3) I can drive to a Halloween costume party as Abraham Lincoln without taking my hat off
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Does this make the water drain front and back or side to side - my problem is that if i drain side to side it is going to end up inside my jeep and i am better off letting it pool up on top and bail it out like a sinking boat in the morning
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advice need on great idea!.....

hey there raoul.....great informaton!....as soon as the top came in went and purchased the supplies to make it happen!....have the same setup, but have to ask one question....what did you use to tighten the tee's to the roll bar?....so far zip ties rotate on the pads and eliminates the bow effect....or do i make the cross members longer?....any help would be great!...thanks for the idea and any advice!.....
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I didn't cut the Tees and use zip ties.
I removed the roll bar extensions and worked the Tees on, with the roll bar pad it was tight but doable, my tees haven't moved.

Mine may have more bow than yours but you can compensate by sliding them toward the roll bar. The extensions are not parallel, they're wider toward the windshield so sliding the whole apparatus rearward creates more bow.

If your two pipes are not the same length, just switching them changes the amount of bow.

Best bet might be cut longer crossing pipes.
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hey there raoul...thanks for the reply!....going to try the longer pipes!.....caught that about the angle of the roll bars front to back....very useful!......also thinking about upgrading from the zip ties to clamps!....weather here is starting to crap out, but should still have a few good days to open it up!....when i do, i will post more photos!....thanks again!....

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