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Old 03-22-2018, 05:25 PM
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Converting OEM headlamps to LED

I've got a '95 Wrangler with original headlamps and am looking for a quick conversion kit to change them to LED. Looking for any/all quality recommendations. Also interested in the possibility of ones with a colored halo effect (https://www.amazon.com/86-95-WRANGLE.../dp/B01HS31FT6).

Any links would be appreciated.

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I looked into LED's and the only ones i really liked were the truck-lite brand and they were about $400 for a set. The cheap Chinese LED's look like crap in my opinion and the color ones make a jeep look like the owner is a 16 year old that watches way to much fast and the furious and spent his Christmas gift cards at JC Whitney.

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Those aren't led lights... just goofy led rings...
Personally I wouldn't....

If you're looking for better light and not just led bandwagon I'd suggest a pair of these

https://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6010.htm

And these

https://www.hidconcept.com/collectio...SABEgKBgPD_BwE
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If you go with the H4s as Gottagofast suggests, you'll also need a headlight relay kit.
The brighter bulbs draw more power than the stock headlamps and will pop the circuit breaker in your headlight switch.
Headlight relay kit, about $25.00-$30.00 at online websites. Try Quadratec or Morris 4X4.

I made my relay kit from parts & pieces. It would have been cheaper to simply buy a pre-made kit, not to mention the brain damage of sourcing all the little parts.
I'm happy with my H4s and mine are DOT approved. The E-Code lights are even better.

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Those aren't led lights... just goofy led rings...
Personally I wouldn't....

If you're looking for better light and not just led bandwagon I'd suggest a pair of these

https://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6010.htm

And these

https://www.hidconcept.com/collections/h4/products/9003-h4-hb2-philips-x-treme-vision-130-12342xv-s2-bulbs-pack-of-2?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_4Lk7YOB2gIVj7rACh25KAifEAQYAS ABEgKBgPD_BwE

I am using this setup and i love it OP they put out MUCH better light than my old Sylvania Silverstar sealed beams. Even the standard Hella bulbs project the light much better than the sealed beam Silverstars. But when you put Phillips x-treme Vision 130's they rock!

I am not a lighting snob and it don't really bother me but it's something i notice with the Hella E-codes. When on the low beam the cutoff is nice and wide but you get lines of light because of the way the lens is made to project the light off to the left.Cibie housings are supposed to be better than Hella but they are more expensive and harder to order. Not sure of the Cibies would get rid of the weird vertical bars of light. For all i know the Cibies do it to and it's unavoidable. Hellas are nice though well worth the $100 a pair + $30 for the Philips bulbs.
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Actually luckymac, we finally disagree (a little) and I may well be wrong here 😁... h4's only draw 4.5 amps low and 5 amps high each.... stock bulbs are just a little lower iirc 4.1 amps??

I think they should be fine as long as the switch and connections are all in good condition

That said, a relay harness could be a good idea on an older vehicle with an aged electrical system
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ATTENTION!!!
I originally posted a link to the wrong bulbs.... I linked h7's and h4's are actually correct....
I fixed the link but I got quoted a couple times w the wrong link.... the original post is currently correct but the quotes are not...

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Hella.E-codes are awesome. Here is the relay I used.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZZWKGT?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
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If you go with the H4s as Gottagofast suggests, you'll also need a headlight relay kit.
The brighter bulbs draw more power than the stock headlamps and will pop the circuit breaker in your headlight switch.
Headlight relay kit, about $25.00-$30.00 at online websites. Try Quadratec or Morris 4X4.

I made my relay kit from parts & pieces. It would have been cheaper to simply buy a pre-made kit, not to mention the brain damage of sourcing all the little parts.
I'm happy with my H4s and mine are DOT approved. The E-Code lights are even better.

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Hella.E-codes are awesome. Here is the relay I used.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZZWKGT?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
I am still running mine off the stock wiring

Not sure if im going to run a premade headlight kit or if im going to run a bussmann relay/fuse panel to keep it tidy and uncluttered in case i add anything else electrical like a air compressor or a set of off-road lights.
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If you are not too handy under the hood, like me, the prepaid, 15 minute install relay is the way to go.
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These are what I bought 2 weeks ago. Bright!!!!. I have been satisfied so far but like I said its inky been 2 weeks. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XRXTX32..._51AqAb51QCZQY
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I have the round version of the hella's in my tj and actually just ordered the ones I linked for my yj...

I'll back probe the headlight plugs once installed to see if I have any voltage drop n decide if I need a relay harness.
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I have these and really like them. Huge difference and they look a bit like HID's....not exactly but close.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Actually luckymac, we finally disagree (a little) and I may well be wrong here 😁... h4's only draw 4.5 amps low and 5 amps high each.... stock bulbs are just a little lower iirc 4.1 amps??

I think they should be fine as long as the switch and connections are all in good condition

That said, a relay harness could be a good idea on an older vehicle with an aged electrical system
That's what I get for SWAGging. I assumed that since there was more light being produced, that the bulbs drew a greater amount of power.

Facts beat guessing every time (unless you're a politician).


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Another vote for the Hella's.

I would also add that just adding a relay harness will greatly increase even the factory headlights.

and just for the record the LEDs above certainly do not look like HIDs and assuredly they do not perform like HIDs.
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I recently put these in.
NightSun 5x7 LED Headlight

Direct drop in replacement unless you want to wire up the DRL then you have to run a switch power run to them (not required but nice addition)

So far I'm very happy with them. The cutoff is good and I haven't been flashed by other drivers yet like with some of the others. Downside is they are a bit pricey.
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Correction to above, I posted the wrong link (still can't edit? how many posts do I need)

NIghtSun 5 inch x 7 inch LED Headlight for Jeep YJ and Cherokee
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I have these and really like them. Huge difference and they look a bit like HID's....not exactly but close.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
i have these but the passenger side only works halfway plugged in 😑😑😑😑
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Another vote for the Hella's.

I would also add that just adding a relay harness will greatly increase even the factory headlights.

and just for the record the LEDs above certainly do not look like HIDs and assuredly they do not perform like HIDs.
If you're talking to me I certainly didn't mean to say that the lights physically look like HID's. That should be pretty obvious. However, to say that effective light output and performance is not like HID's seems a bit of a stretch given all the advances in LED lighting. Are they better than a $100k Mercedes lights...not idea but I doubt itl. Are they better than your average budget aftermarket HID kit...definitely. Agreed, LED's and HID's put out different focal beams so it's not apples to apples and LED's can have more light colors than HID which can create visual differences based on what your eyes like. However, light color and visual driving satisfaction on a dark road with these compared to my old Honda S2000's HID's is certainly on the same playing field and beats the snot out all the Hella halogen fog and driving lights I've owned.

Here is a picture of just my Hella 55w driving lights which used to be the only way I could see anything when driving with normal halogen lights. The next picture is just the LED lights.
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I just picked up another set of the Hella's to replace the 23 year old pair I've been running..the silver reflector coating is starting to come off the the old ones..don't know if it's just age, or from running the 100/55 watt bulbs all the time

the pair of these housing I run in my '89 Toyota 4x4 have run the same bulb for almost as long, and they aren't doing any peeling, so it just may have been a bad lot of housings put out all those years ago
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I just picked up another set of the Hella's to replace the 23 year old pair I've been running..the silver reflector coating is starting to come off the the old ones..don't know if it's just age, or from running the 100/55 watt bulbs all the time

the pair of these housing I run in my '89 Toyota 4x4 have run the same bulb for almost as long, and they aren't doing any peeling, so it just may have been a bad lot of housings put out all those years ago
Water and condensation can wreak havoc on the plastic reflective parts in lights. Whenever I've seen the reflective material degrade, that was the cause. Sometimes it just takes a while for the housings and glass to shift enough to allow moisture in. Other times usually with cheaper lights, the seal is crap and it can happen in a year.
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Water and condensation can wreak havoc on the plastic reflective parts in lights. Whenever I've seen the reflective material degrade, that was the cause. Sometimes it just takes a while for the housings and glass to shift enough to allow moisture in. Other times usually with cheaper lights, the seal is crap and it can happen in a year.
When I installed my Hella Lights, I had to cut away the metal 'ears' on the headlight bucket so that I could fit the rubber cup that keeps weather out of the lamp itself.

Pic 1- is cutting the ears off with a die grinder.
Pic 2- is the rubber cup installed after cutting the ears off.
Pic 3 is "Always assemble any electrical connector (plug) with dielectric grease".

By installing the rubber cup on the back of the Hella lamps, you can help to prevent the plastic from degrading as jfw432 mentions.

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Well i installed my new hella e codes and phillips extreme bulbs last night and WOW!!!!
My sylvania silverstars were great or so I thought... these new ones are quite literally night and day...

I have the same ones except round of course in my tj and absolutely love em but in the yj they still blew me away.... maybe even better than the tj....

I did my install slightly different than LM.. instead of cutting the ears off I simply nent em by hand to point straight back..... either way works great, do whichever you prefer.....

Damn I love these lights..... Now if I could just drop my poor old sahara off w LM for some body work n fresh paint.....
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I'm a bodyman, not a painter.
My next door neighbor has a body shop behind his house and does primarily high end custom work. Mostly hot rods & such with some insurance type collision work thrown in.
His work is show quality.
I had my tub media blasted and repaired the few whiskey dings myself.
My neighbor painted it (took him a week or so) and charged me $600.00 labor. That's $40.00 per hour X 15 hours. Having been a body shop owner for over 20 years, I realize he gave me a very fair price. The materials were very close to a Grand, for top quality catalized primer and top of the line catalized urethane enamel.
Four years later, it still looks like new.

I'd be glad to do your bodywork, but getting your Jeep painted may surprise you.

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I'm figuring on $2500 in parts and materials.... if I ever get time to tear it down.... will be frame off

I just have to figure out how to keep my painter buddy sober for the job.....
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I did these on my ‘91, found em on Amazon of course, I think around $50 for the pair. Low beam is more of a general flood, but not objectionable to oncoming traffic. The highs are impressive and focused. The DRL’s were just a bonus and I think give it a unique look. They plugged right in and have worked flawlessly since install a couple months ago. Problem with LED’s is bean focus usually. I chose to run all LED’s becaClick image for larger version

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I just have to figure out how to keep my painter buddy sober for the job.....
I've been in the body business all my adult life.

My advice is get everything ready the night before and have Mr. Painter start his work first thing in the morning.
Tell him you couldn't get to the store to get his bottle or 6pack last night, but you'll go get it now. Then go have a long breakfast and then head to the store for his stuff. By the time you get back to the shop he'll be well into the paint job and won't be too loaded to do a good job.

Don't worry about Mr. Painter not having anything to drink. If he's like many other guys that you worry about being sober while they're working, he's got a bottle stashed somewhere.

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