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Old 09-29-2019, 12:33 PM
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Daughter just bought a 95 YJ

Hi guys. I’m new to the group. My 15 year old daughter bought a 1995 YJ yesterday. I know nothing about jeeps, except I’m sure this is going to need some work. It runs great, but it was wrecked and totaled so I’m going to have to get it inspected before licensing it (Washington State). The frame looks straight. It’s a 4 cylinder and has 111k miles. She paid $1800 of her own money that she worked for and saved.

I took a bunch of photos and as wondering if you guys can tell me anything you can from the pictures. Literally anything you can glean, like what parts does it have that I should take note of or be concerned about, anything aftermarket you can see, that type of thing. I’m not really a car guy but I’m going to have to learn so I can help her get this road worthy by the time she turns 16 next September.

Thanks and I look forward to spending time in your group!

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No offense but I think your daughter got took that's probably just a parts jeep
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Just going off pics it looks like the driver hit something and bent the front leaf springs they will need replaced. The frame seems to look okay from the pictures but pictures can lie. The YJ has a frame crumple zone at about the firewall with about 12 small holes in total. They are on the upper edges on the frame 3 outside upper edge and 3 on the inside upper edge on both sides. If the frame starts to bend this is where it will bend first. So if the frame is bent it will be most visible in this area. The leaf springs may have absorbed most of the front end collision though.



The side collision dont look that bad maybe it was off road related?. Looks like it could be built into a decent offroader
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Hate to rain on your daughters' parade but I think it's going to cost 3-4 or more times what she paid for it to fix it.
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Also look in Got it at last post above for the link to Factory Service Manuals. Find the manuals that pertain to her YJ then download them. There's a wealth of information in the FSM.
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You guys are nuts, give me four hours two hammers a bottle jack and a 4x4 and I'd have that thing almost perfectly straight.. or just swap out the bent front springs and go cruising
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You guys are nuts, give me four hours two hammers a bottle jack and a 4x4 and I'd have that thing almost perfectly straight.. or just swap out the bent front springs and go cruising

Agreed.

The pictures actually look pretty good unless there is damage i am not seeing. The frame seems to be in good condition and looks to be rust free. The body even looks rust free except for the huge dent that can be fixed with some work. I would much rather massage that giant dent out than replace rusted sheet metal.

If you can get most of that dent out and get it somewhat back into shape you can always cover up the imperfections with body armor.

The worst part of this jeep is that it is a 4 cylinder.
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Welcome to the Forum Pepper Paul, Here's some thoughts and questions.

Does the winch work? maybe not. I don't see the cable going through the fairlead.

It looks to need a complete exhaust system including the cat. Ask for recommendations.

It has a transfer case drop. That's the spacer bars between the frame and cross member. Indicates spring lift of unknown height.
What size are the tires. let us know and someone can recommend a good lift height for replacement springs that agalloch07 mentions in #5 post. If you go with the same height spring lift, you might not need to buy shocks. If you go back to stock height springs, you'll need stock length shocks and probably smaller tires. Then you can get rid of the transfer case drop.

I see some wires hanging and what might be the vacuum lines from the transfer case to the front axle. Does the 4X work? The vacuum hoses are available as a complete loom for most Jeeps. Ask if you need the part number.

Does the Jeep have a top? If not, keep an eye on Craigslist for a good one. Cold weather is approaching and the price for hard tops will be going up. The price seems to drop a bit in late spring. If you want a soft top, buy new or one in like new condition. Check all the zippers for function when looking at a used top. Is there even a frame for a soft top?

It looks like it had rocker guards that the PO removed. Cheap ones are around $200.00.
If your daughter isn't planning on serious off roading she won't need any rocker guards.

As far as driving or driveability , I'd take the Jeep to a shop that does alignments on lifted 4X4 vehicles and get an estimate. You might have to pay a fee for an estimate, but you should be able to do most of the work yourself with your daughters help.

For the bash on the left rear, I'd get a price from a body shop to do a "rough out" repair and then hide the uglyness with body armor. Make sure they get the tailgate to open and close smoothly.

Don't be shy about asking questions. The 4 cyl is a bit underpowered, but if she just wants the Jeep for high school and as a daily driver, it might be a good first vehicle.
If she won't be doing off roading you might consider stock sized tires and stock height springs. That will help with the Jeep being underpowered.

Left and right seats are generally interchangeable, but hers has reclining backs. If she's willing to give up the reclining feature, you might find a good used passenger seat to match the rest of the interior and install it in the drivers position.

There's probably more, but that's what I see right off hand from your pics.

Keep us posted. You can start a build thread in the YJ build section and ask your questions in the YJ tech section.

Good Luck, L.M.
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Welcome to the Forum Pepper Paul, Here's some thoughts and questions.

Does the winch work? maybe not. I don't see the cable going through the fairlead.

It looks to need a complete exhaust system including the cat. Ask for recommendations.

It has a transfer case drop. That's the spacer bars between the frame and cross member. Indicates spring lift of unknown height.
What size are the tires. let us know and someone can recommend a good lift height for replacement springs that agalloch07 mentions in #5 post. If you go with the same height spring lift, you might not need to buy shocks. If you go back to stock height springs, you'll need stock length shocks and probably smaller tires. Then you can get rid of the transfer case drop.

I see some wires hanging and what might be the vacuum lines from the transfer case to the front axle. Does the 4X work? The vacuum hoses are available as a complete loom for most Jeeps. Ask if you need the part number.

Does the Jeep have a top? If not, keep an eye on Craigslist for a good one. Cold weather is approaching and the price for hard tops will be going up. The price seems to drop a bit in late spring. If you want a soft top, buy new or one in like new condition. Check all the zippers for function when looking at a used top. Is there even a frame for a soft top?

It looks like it had rocker guards that the PO removed. Cheap ones are around $200.00.
If your daughter isn't planning on serious off roading she won't need any rocker guards.

As far as driving or driveability , I'd take the Jeep to a shop that does alignments on lifted 4X4 vehicles and get an estimate. You might have to pay a fee for an estimate, but you should be able to do most of the work yourself with your daughters help.

For the bash on the left rear, I'd get a price from a body shop to do a "rough out" repair and then hide the uglyness with body armor. Make sure they get the tailgate to open and close smoothly.

Don't be shy about asking questions. The 4 cyl is a bit underpowered, but if she just wants the Jeep for high school and as a daily driver, it might be a good first vehicle.
If she won't be doing off roading you might consider stock sized tires and stock height springs. That will help with the Jeep being underpowered.

Left and right seats are generally interchangeable, but hers has reclining backs. If she's willing to give up the reclining feature, you might find a good used passenger seat to match the rest of the interior and install it in the drivers position.

There's probably more, but that's what I see right off hand from your pics.

Keep us posted. You can start a build thread in the YJ build section and ask your questions in the YJ tech section.

Good Luck, L.M.
I’ve read quite a lot on the forum , and I was really hoping you would chime in LM. You seem like a genuine guys with lots of knowledge, and not lots of attitude. I really appreciate that! Now to answer your thoughts and questions:

1: The winch is brand new; they put it on (backwards) a few days before it was wrecked so it hasn’t been wired to the Jeep. They did give me the wiring and controller.

The exhaust, I’m not sure about. Where I live in Washington they don’t do emmisssions testing so no cat isn’t the end of the world.

It has a 4” lift and the leaf springs are bent and the shocks have some dents in them, so I’m guessing the whole lift needs to be replaced. Will have someone more knowledgeable than me take a look and give a recommendation. it currently has a 4” lift on it.

It came with a soft top that’s in bad shape, so probably can just use the frame from it and replace the fabric. She won’t be doing anything but street driving with it, so I’m. It worried about the rocker guards. She’s strictly going for the “cool, I drive a Jeep to school” look, and I’m okay with that.

I appreciate the advise about getting a possibly paid estimate from a 4x4 shop on work that needs to be done and then completing work
Myself. Getting an expert opinion, especially for someone with not a lot of knowledge About jeeps will probably be super beneficial.

I don’t think we’re going to change out to remove the loft, but will probably look at smaller, less aggressive tires just to help with gas mileage.

The seats, I’ve seen lists posted of seats for other cars like the Chevy cavalier and Pontiac Sunfire they fit, so we’ll be shopping for those.

Thanks for the advise on starting a build thread, it’s a great idea for how to document how her Jeep is coming along.

I just want to say you seem like a great contributer to this forum, and a nice guy in general. I really appreciate you taking the time to offer specific suggestions, and I definitely will consider everything you’ve offered.
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I have cavalier seats in mine there comfortable and bolt right in for $25.I got a new smittybilt soft top with tinted windows for $205 on Amazon cant beat it for the price
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I have Bestop II seats in black denim. They were $200.00 on sale + shipping. That was 5 years ago. It looks like Smittybilt offers the same seats now under the Smittybilt name.

I considered the Cavalier seats, but the only ones I found were fabric. That might be an issue if your daughter leaves the Jeep outside without a top and it rains.
A female with a wet butt is never a good thing.

Running a YJ (or any vehicle that was originally equipped with a cat) on public roads without a cat is a violation of federal emission standards. Running the '95 without a cat could lead to stinky exhaust. I'd look for the least expensive cat that would fit the Jeep because I'd want to set a good example for any youngster.

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It has some issues as noted above but none that i see tha you can't fix. The suspension seems to be the biggest issue at first. You already know that. From what you said above, it looks like you have a plan. Start a build thread.

The best thing about this is she picked it out and brought it home. She has a vested interest in it so she should be motivated to get it all fixed. This is good for you and her. THis is a great dad/daughter project you two will look back on for years.

Even if it costs more to fix it than it is worth, the time spent with her is priceless.
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I dig the fenders. Id for sure consider chaining it to a tree and cranking the dent out with a come along, rip off the lift, slap some 31s on, and cruise.


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I think some parental guidance was in order with this purchase. I hope she did not delete her account because she will need a lot more $$$ Frame looking straight does not mean a straight frame. It can be knocked out of alignment just a fraction and will cause all kinds of problems.
Then there is the 4 cylinder.

My friend bought a 1995 yj 4 cylinder in solid shape for $1800 couple of years ago. Has put a bunch of miles on it and has done nothing too it.

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