HELP checking my YJ SOA parts list - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > YJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > YJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 08-11-2015, 03:27 AM
Thread Starter
  #1
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
HELP checking my YJ SOA parts list

hey guys,
first off, follow me on twitter and instagram @alljeepev_ for pics of badass Jeeps and to share our common passion for Jeeps with others, while creating a positive learning and Jeeping environment!
im new to the forums but ive been around Jeeps for a while. recently ive decided to undertake the challenge of converting my 1995 YJ into a spring over axle suspension. everywhere i look i see a different list and a different price and, im not gonna lie, it gets pretty confusing sometimes and its hard to keep track of what i NEED, not want and that's where i need your help. ill post my list with the part links and id like you to give me some input as to what i need to add or subtract and whether you think my setup will work. keep in mind, my vehicles suspension is completely stock at the moment and so are the axles.

anyways, my list...

Rubicon Express RXT2000B Steering Stabilizer
Rubicon Express SK010505RXJ Monotube Shock
4x Rubicon Express RE2055 Spring Plate
2x Rubicon Express RE2420 Dana 30 U-Bolt Kit for Jeep YJ
Rubicon Express RE1492 1.5" Spring Bushing Kit
4x Rubicon Express RE1445 1.5" Leaf Spring
Rubicon Express RE2500 Pitman Arm
Rugged Ridge 18676.60 Transfer Case Slip-Yoke Eliminator Kit

i know, i didn't list perches or brake line extensions, recommendations?

last note, this is more or less a "middle ground" build where i want the most quality for the cheapest it can be. im young, broke and ambitious. im more or less looking for the best "bang for my buck" while maintaining safety.

thanks!

links to parts:
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006GJKNYW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A20Q8IL2L CJW1S
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006GJKZL8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX 0DER
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006GJP2CK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX 0DER
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FQ1YUY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX 0DER
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006GJPEAK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX 0DER
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Y2WACI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX 0DER
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006GJIWBS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_10?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1FYA2G4 M1W0LX
-http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E0REY24/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX 0DER

alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-12-2015, 04:12 AM
Thread Starter
  #2
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Bump

alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-12-2015, 08:37 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 118
You have a long way to go in parts. You haven't mentioned any steering components and a steering stabilizer is not one of them. It is not needed if done correctly. There is a sticky in the tech section and TONS of threads on this site, jeep forum, pirate 4x4. That walk you through it. Make sure you understand suspension basics first like caster angle and geometry. I don't have a build thread on this site, but if you can't find your answers or have more specific questions then post up.




Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
87TPIYJ is offline   Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-13-2015, 04:27 AM
Thread Starter
  #4
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by 87TPIYJ View Post
You have a long way to go in parts. You haven't mentioned any steering components and a steering stabilizer is not one of them. It is not needed if done correctly. There is a sticky in the tech section and TONS of threads on this site, jeep forum, pirate 4x4. That walk you through it. Make sure you understand suspension basics first like caster angle and geometry. I don't have a build thread on this site, but if you can't find your answers or have more specific questions then post up. Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
I know I have a long way to go, that's why I posted this asking for help. Is there anything you'd suggest? I've read many write ups and such but none of them are specific to my case and that's why I've posted this. Tell me parts and such that I've missed out and I'll add them. I'm new to this and I'm learning as I go.
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-14-2015, 04:30 AM
Thread Starter
  #5
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Bump. Just need some parts advice. I've seen many SOA write ups but none for all stock YJs. I want to be able to safely lift for the least, no extra parts that can wait a little to add, etc.

Thanks!
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-14-2015, 03:23 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
MikeyinaYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: central coast california
Posts: 254
You're going to need some type of crossover steering/high steer setup. Probably an anti wrap bar too.
__________________
----------------------------------------
1994 jeep wrangler 2.5l
MikeyinaYJ is offline   Quote
Old 08-14-2015, 11:16 PM
Thread Starter
  #7
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeyinaYJ View Post
You're going to need some type of crossover steering/high steer setup. Probably an anti wrap bar too.
I've got the drop pitman arm to adjust the steering angle, will I need both? And recently I've read that the anti wrap bar is worthless and limits your actual flex. Any first hand knowledge?
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-15-2015, 04:40 AM
Thread Starter
  #8
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Another (very) early bump. I've been doing lots of research, and I've found a few other SOA write up with nearly the same parts as mine and everyone claims they're close to spot on. One thing I've changed in my list is the perches, brake lines, u-bolts, spring plates, etc. not so much change but consolidate. I've decided that with adding the perches, brake lines, etc. that the RE SOA kit would be cheaper, so I'll be using that instead of parting my own kit together. Cheaper and simpler this way.

Id like to rephrase my initial topic question. Running the items that I've listed, would my SOA be drivable? If not, what else is required?

I need to lift my YJ as quickly as possible, as j won't have as much time later in the year and Id like to knock it out before winter. Let me know what you think, thanks!
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-15-2015, 01:47 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
MikeyinaYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: central coast california
Posts: 254
The anti wrap bar I just built limits droop.. so im rebuilding it and trying a different design. Stocks springs take a beating on soa. My rear springs started to "s" the first week with no anti wrap system. The locker I have doesn't help but I believe the right spring pack will limit the wrap. But then you start to hinder flex that way as well.
__________________
----------------------------------------
1994 jeep wrangler 2.5l
MikeyinaYJ is offline   Quote
Old 08-15-2015, 01:54 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
MikeyinaYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: central coast california
Posts: 254
In this pic I have nothing but a drop pitman arm, granted I have one inch shackles and added a leaf to stock front springs. The drag link is straight riding on the spring. It drove with a ton of bump steer and hit when I turned passenger. Forget trying to flex it.

Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20150815_104842.jpg
Views:	214
Size:	129.7 KB
ID:	2418369
__________________
----------------------------------------
1994 jeep wrangler 2.5l
MikeyinaYJ is offline   Quote
Old 08-15-2015, 02:02 PM   #11
IITYWTMWYBMAB

::WF Administrator::
 
4Jeepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 12,284
I used the Rough stuff kit for my XJ anti wrap bar.. works great, does not appear to limit flex all that much and best part no more busted driveshaft u joints...
__________________
79.96.85.00.01.97.00.97.93.97.95.94.15
CJ.XJ.CJ. TJ. TJ.ZJ. TJ.TJ. ZJ.ZJ.YJ. XJ. JK


JKU Build Inside: Party Girl
WranglerForum: Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHO...TLdAuMbTLs_bxw

JKUR 2" Rancho Sport - BlackForest Throwback Top - Milestar 315 Patagona Mt's - Outlaw Sheriff Rims - Bushwacker Flat Fenders -
Spicer Parts F/R Diff Covers, Front Drive Shaft - 4340 Alloy Shafts- Metal Cloak Overland Rock w/Flip Step -JCR Transmission Skid- Quadratec LED Headlights- Q9500i winch
4Jeepn is offline   Quote
Old 08-16-2015, 03:10 AM
Thread Starter
  #12
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeyinaYJ View Post
The anti wrap bar I just built limits droop.. so im rebuilding it and trying a different design. Stocks springs take a beating on soa. My rear springs started to "s" the first week with no anti wrap system. The locker I have doesn't help but I believe the right spring pack will limit the wrap. But then you start to hinder flex that way as well.
wow! And that right there is the reason I'm getting rid of my stock springs! Haha everywhere I've seen, I've read that the RE SOA springs are the best and limit wrap on their own. I'm sure over time it's bound to happen regardless though. I won't be super off-road oriented or anything like that, as this is my daily driver as well. With that being Said, would you consider the anti wrap bar essential to the safety/integrity of the lift? If not, Id like to hold off until I run into a bit more money.
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-16-2015, 03:11 AM
Thread Starter
  #13
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeyinaYJ View Post
In this pic I have nothing but a drop pitman arm, granted I have one inch shackles and added a leaf to stock front springs. The drag link is straight riding on the spring. It drove with a ton of bump steer and hit when I turned passenger. Forget trying to flex it.
are you planning on fixing the bump steer? If so, how do you plan on doing this? I feel I may run into this problem as well and I might as well be prepared for it before it happens. Haha
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-16-2015, 03:13 AM
Thread Starter
  #14
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
I used the Rough stuff kit for my XJ anti wrap bar.. works great, does not appear to limit flex all that much and best part no more busted driveshaft u joints...
does the XJ anti wrap bolt straight over? If so, I'll probably be able to find one for cheap and save a little cash. I'll have to look into this a bit.
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-16-2015, 11:29 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 118
Dude are you trying to do it right or just cobble stuff together? If you want steering to be correct then you MUST have crossover steering or high steer. So would will need a new drag link. Do traction bars limit flex? Yeah a little, but what is more important? An inch or two of flex or ruining Springs and busting ujoints (which can lead to other things breaking). If you are that worried about flex. I have a traction bar and got a 918 on the RTI ramp with crown 0" lift HD Springs (stock size with 6 leafs).


Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
87TPIYJ is offline   Quote
Old 08-16-2015, 12:38 PM   #16
IITYWTMWYBMAB

::WF Administrator::
 
4Jeepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 12,284
Quote:
Originally Posted by alljeepev_ View Post
does the XJ anti wrap bolt straight over? If so, I'll probably be able to find one for cheap and save a little cash. I'll have to look into this a bit.
Mounts like this to axle then you have to fab your own support bar for the shackle side... it also is welded to the axle and the frame. Shots are from install a year to two ago. usually should go on the other side..but exhaust was in the way..
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	aa.jpg
Views:	165
Size:	72.2 KB
ID:	2420169   Click image for larger version

Name:	aaa.jpg
Views:	156
Size:	67.5 KB
ID:	2420177  

__________________
79.96.85.00.01.97.00.97.93.97.95.94.15
CJ.XJ.CJ. TJ. TJ.ZJ. TJ.TJ. ZJ.ZJ.YJ. XJ. JK


JKU Build Inside: Party Girl
WranglerForum: Youtube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHO...TLdAuMbTLs_bxw

JKUR 2" Rancho Sport - BlackForest Throwback Top - Milestar 315 Patagona Mt's - Outlaw Sheriff Rims - Bushwacker Flat Fenders -
Spicer Parts F/R Diff Covers, Front Drive Shaft - 4340 Alloy Shafts- Metal Cloak Overland Rock w/Flip Step -JCR Transmission Skid- Quadratec LED Headlights- Q9500i winch
4Jeepn is offline   Quote
Old 08-16-2015, 01:07 PM
Thread Starter
  #17
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by 87TPIYJ View Post
Dude are you trying to do it right or just cobble stuff together? If you want steering to be correct then you MUST have crossover steering or high steer. So would will need a new drag link. Do traction bars limit flex? Yeah a little, but what is more important? An inch or two of flex or ruining Springs and busting ujoints (which can lead to other things breaking). If you are that worried about flex. I have a traction bar and got a 918 on the RTI ramp with crown 0" lift HD Springs (stock size with 6 leafs). Sent from AutoGuide.com Free App
I know it must sounds confusing but I'm just trying to get the best of both worlds, throw it together and improve upon it later. I know that sounds like a terrible idea but it's my daily driver and it needs to be drivable ASAP
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-16-2015, 01:09 PM
Thread Starter
  #18
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
Mounts like this to axle then you have to fab your own support bar for the shackle side... it also is welded to the axle and the frame. Shots are from install a year to two ago. usually should go on the other side..but exhaust was in the way..
im currently unable to weld so I'll be having a buddy doing all the welding. I'll have to do a little more research into this though. Right now it seems like a pretty promising route though.
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 11:43 AM   #19
Jeeper
 
MikeyinaYJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: central coast california
Posts: 254
This is how I set up my steering. M.O.R.E. steering correction kit.

Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20150817_084202.jpg
Views:	246
Size:	151.2 KB
ID:	2422321
__________________
----------------------------------------
1994 jeep wrangler 2.5l
MikeyinaYJ is offline   Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 02:11 PM
Thread Starter
  #20
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeyinaYJ View Post
This is how I set up my steering. M.O.R.E. steering correction kit.
did you purchase online? If so, where? All I've found is a kit for $400+ 😭 and I've also read a few places that a DPA should suffice. Any objections?
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-17-2015, 02:16 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
bamabrock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by alljeepev_ View Post
I know it must sounds confusing but I'm just trying to get the best of both worlds, throw it together and improve upon it later. I know that sounds like a terrible idea but it's my daily driver and it needs to be drivable ASAP
if that is the case, just install a small lift
bamabrock is offline   Quote
Old 08-19-2015, 12:54 PM
Thread Starter
  #22
Jeeper
 
alljeepev_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Midwest Ohio
Posts: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamabrock View Post
if that is the case, just install a small lift
that was my original play but in order to save money in the long run, I felt this was best. Haha
alljeepev_ is offline   Quote
Old 08-20-2015, 12:23 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
StanF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,441
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamabrock View Post
if that is the case, just install a small lift
+1, excellent advice!

What do you want to do with your Jeep that requires SOA? What size tires do you want to run? What type of offroading do you do?

Do you have an SYE already?

What axle upgrades do you have planned? The stock axles (especially rear Dana 35) won't survive with the larger tires that you typically see when going SOA.

There are a bunch of different ways to build a Jeep, so you might want to rethink your plans and consider SUA with a smaller lift.

__________________
1995 YJ, 4.0L, AX15, 3" susp lift; front Dana 44 with Detroit; Rear 8.8 w/ARB; Flat Tummy Tuck, 1" MORE MML; 35" MT/r Tires;

StanF Tummy Tuck, Ford 8.8, Gas Tank Lift, Rocker Guard Fab, Ammo Can Console
StanF is offline   Quote
Reply

Tags
alljeepev , jeep , jeep yj , soa , wrangler

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Jeepģ, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, Gladiator, Mopar and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to FCA US LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with FCA US LLC.