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Old 03-07-2018, 11:24 AM
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How does your hard top fasten to the windshield frame?

I picked up a used aftermarket hard top for my YJ and there's no good way to hold the top to the windshield frame. There are two adjustable lever style clamps for the soft top that came with the Jeep but they won't reach forward enough to grab the lip on the hard top.

Would anyone take a picture of their setup and post it for me to see how it is supposed to attach?

I cannot post any pictures right now because my Jeep is at the auto body shop for a few weeks.

Thank you in advance.

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Old 03-07-2018, 12:11 PM   #3
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Out of all the jeeps i have ever owned with a hard top i could never keep the screws in they would always rattle out. I used to keep a 5/16 mini nut driver in one of my jeeps to constantly tighten them so they wouldn't fall out. But that got old so i just started leaving them out. Might not be the best idea ever but i have ran 3 jeeps with no windshield frame screws and never had a problem.
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Old 03-07-2018, 12:51 PM
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Out of all the jeeps i have ever owned with a hard top i could never keep the screws in they would always rattle out. I used to keep a 5/16 mini nut driver in one of my jeeps to constantly tighten them so they wouldn't fall out. But that got old so i just started leaving them out. Might not be the best idea ever but i have ran 3 jeeps with no windshield frame screws and never had a problem.
Doesn't the front hop up and down slightly and produce tons of wind noise?

This top doesn't fit down as far as what I see in most people's pictures. I removed the mounting strip from the soft top and adjusted the rollbar braces but its just a poor fit. Not sure if you can tell from this photo I had in my phone but the gap above the front of the door is larger than the rear.

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I drilled out the self tapping holes and welded 1/4" nuts to the outside of the holes. Now when I put my top on it's bolted to the frame rather than screwed. And just for fun I run a bead of grey calking along the outside to knock out the wind noise. When the top comes off, the calking just peels right back off.
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Doesn't the front hop up and down slightly and produce tons of wind noise?

This top doesn't fit down as far as what I see in most people's pictures. I removed the mounting strip from the soft top and adjusted the rollbar braces but its just a poor fit. Not sure if you can tell from this photo I had in my phone but the gap above the front of the door is larger than the rear.

You did not post a photo.

Ehh sometimes if its windy the top moves around but most of the time you cant even tell. I don't really notice any wind noise but then again i don't pay attention to things like that in a jeep, because its a jeep.
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I picked up a used aftermarket hard top for my YJ and there's no good way to hold the top to the windshield frame. There are two adjustable lever style clamps for the soft top that came with the Jeep but they won't reach forward enough to grab the lip on the hard top.

Would anyone take a picture of their setup and post it for me to see how it is supposed to attach?

I cannot post any pictures right now because my Jeep is at the auto body shop for a few weeks.

Thank you in advance.
Your local auto parts store should have a Nutsert tool and assortment of Nutserts.
I have a new windshield frame and I simply used self tapping screws. If I took my hard top off and on a lot, those screw holes would become wallowed out and I'd have to use Nutserts.

The trick to a good seal at the hard top to windshield frame is to get a good alignment between your doors and the windshield frame.
Then make sure you have all 3 pieces of the windshield seal (long center strip and 2 corners). With the hard top loose where it bolts to the sides of the tub, push the hard top as far foreward as you can get it to go and have a buddy sit on the hard top just over the windshield frame.
Then drill pilot holes and screw the top to the W/S frame, or use self tapping screws.
Then tighten the bolts that hold the top to the sides of the tub. I put a strip of 2" weatherstrip between the topper and the tub just for insurance.

With the Jeep in the body shop, perhaps the technician that's working on the Jeep could install the necessary Nutserts. They should already have the nutsert tool.

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You did not post a photo.

Ehh sometimes if its windy the top moves around but most of the time you cant even tell. I don't really notice any wind noise but then again i don't pay attention to things like that in a jeep, because its a jeep.
I did post a photo. You quoted it and it showed up in your quote. Do direct imgur links not work on this board?

I'll try another way.

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I'd love to see some photos of where y'all are drilling. I don't know what a factory hardtop looks like but I assume it is roughly the same as this aftermarket top. It has a lip that curls up towards the inside. You just drill through the frame and catch the lip?
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Whatever you did... there are no pics
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Whatever you did... there are no pics
Yeah, my top doesn't go down far enough to do that. The screws wouldn't bite into the top.

Maybe the auto body shop will do something. Maybe they won't. I wanted to order whatever I needed and have it here so when I picked it up it would be ready to install.

I'll update when the Jeep returns home.

Thank y'all.


This is what I see, but no one else sees it. The picture is in my original post and here it is where someone else quoted it.
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sounds like you have a TJ top on a YJ YJ's never had lever style clamps the TJ did.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:46 AM
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sounds like you have a TJ top on a YJ YJ's never had lever style clamps the TJ did.
The lever style clamps on my frame are for my soft top as explained in the OP. They work just fine for that, they just don't reach in far enough to grab the lip on the hard top. You'd think what would work on one would work on both.

I bought a "parts" YJ just for this hard top and some full doors. The top fit the other YJ better but it wasn't fastened down at all in the front. I never drove that jeep except onto my trailer so I don't know how well it worked like that.
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Mine has a small piano hinge that is pop riveted to the lip on the top and I use self tapper screws to fasten to the windshield. I am going to be working on it in the garage tomorrow and will take a couple of pics and post.
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This is how mine attaches
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This is how mine attaches
Thank you for that picture. Mine should hopefully be out of the shop this week and I can post up what I'm talking about.
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This is how my 93 YJ hardtop is attached.
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I just installed locking clamps on mine. CJ-8 style. I ordered them from McMaster Carr. The latch is attached to the top and the anchor is on the body. I'll snap pictures later today. They installed easily and lock on.

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I only used two, but this picture has three. Similar to what I did. They were like $8 a latch.

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I just installed locking clamps on mine. CJ-8 style. I ordered them from McMaster Carr. The latch is attached to the top and the anchor is on the body. I'll snap pictures later today. They installed easily and lock on.

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I only used two, but this picture has three. Similar to what I did. They were like $8 a latch.

I have a CJ-7 Hardtop on my YJ and installed these (MCM Part#1864A15) and took it to Bundy Hill, and the flexing of the body/top ripped these out of the fiberglass. So, maybe don't do these IF you have a CJ top.



The CJ top is designed to fit onto the windshield frame using a metal strip that rivets onto the hardtop and is screwed into the windshield frame with self tapping screws. This is what I'll be doing next.

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I haven't forgotten about this thread but I still do not have my YJ back from the auto body shop. I dropped it off on 2-26 and he said about two weeks and here it is 3-29....

I'll update as soon as I can. Thank you for all the replies so far.
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I haven't forgotten about this thread but I still do not have my YJ back from the auto body shop. I dropped it off on 2-26 and he said about two weeks and here it is 3-29....

I'll update as soon as I can. Thank you for all the replies so far.
Has your bodyman even started repairs?
Hopefully you haven't paid for the job in advance.

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I finally got it back yesterday evening. The worst of the holdup was waiting for the auto glass guy to get there and install the new windshield. that took a week. It was well worth the wait IMO. There was a lot of nit picky work to do that took time. Lots of dents to remove, they welded the cracks on my full green doors, painted them red and also painted my half doors, etc, etc, etc.

My aftermarket top has a funny lip that curls towards the cab but it will allow me to sink some screws in there. The new windshield frame has some pre-marked divots across the top where I assume you are to put them. I'll try to get some pics tonight as I'm working all day.
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Everything is fixed now, but just following up in case anyone in the future runs into the same issue with an aftermarket hard top.

I've attached two pictures showing the lip I was talking about. Following advice here I had someone put their weight on the top while I drilled four holes and put in 1" sheet metal screws. The screws sunk into the rolled bottom edge of the top where it had some decent thickness. They bit enough to hold the top down securely but it whistled while driving, even with a new seal underneath the front. Some DAP Seal 'n Peel works perfectly and will simply pull off this summer when the top comes off.

Thanks for all the pictures and help. Because of the rolled lip I really assumed it clamped somehow.
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