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Old 08-14-2012, 04:39 PM
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How to tell if my Jeep is lifted

Noob question alert! So this is my first Jeep, i acquired it in a trade. The stance doesn't appear to be stock, it has the old Ultra "swirl" wheels and bigger tires. I have no idea what to look for as far as a lift kit...

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Old 08-14-2012, 05:19 PM   #2
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Post a pic of your jeep. Close enough to see the suspension

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Shackles aren't stock they are greasable and may be lift shackles. Stock ones are 4 inches long. Is that a shock absorber where the track bar should be??
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Never mind.See track bar now behind it. Yeah there is definitely a kit installed too cuz you have a track bar relocation bracket and longer sway bar links. Never seen a shock absorber installed like that? Anyone else have? Mine is mounted with a bolt on left side of axle and then in the center of The long steering arm
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That's the steering stabilizer.. Carralo your right about them not being oem shackles but those aren't lift shackles. You have a 2 1/2 inch lift by the looks of it. What size tires are you running
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Steering stabilizer I meant to type... Brain fart. He has two. I've just never seen one where his is mounted. How can you tell they aren't lift shackles just from looking? They look like they may be longer than stock to me
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He only has one. Just mounted from frame to drag link instead of spring perch to drag link


I say those are stock height shackles because mine are 1 inch shackles(see below) and I don't believe they make anything smaller then one imch. But I might be wrong
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YJ's don't need trackbars or sway bars, so get rid of em.
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No track bar here got he made discos for my sway links
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That's the steering stabilizer.. Carralo your right about them not being oem shackles but those aren't lift shackles. You have a 2 1/2 inch lift by the looks of it. What size tires are you running
Tires are 31x10.5x15... if those aren't OEM sway bar links, how do i buy new ones, cuz there are no bushings at all on these? Also if i want to buy new shocks, how do i guage what size i currently have? Last thing, why don't YJs need sway bars or track bars? Again, i am totally ignorant when it comes to a Jeep, i'm just trying to learn as much as i can. Thanks in advance for all of the great advice, i can tell i'm gonna like it here
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If you look close he does have 2 stabilizers. The conventional one and the one with the red cover. And Yes They make below 1" shackles. They have 3/8 to over 2" I believe so thats why I was curious to how you could tell just a 3/8" difference lol
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9" = 18"

It should be 9" to the bottom of the differential and 18" to the bottom of the tub below the driver's door. You can measure and determine what the lift is from that.
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It should be 9" to the bottom of the differential and 18" to the bottom of the tub below the driver's door. You can measure and determine what the lift is from that.
aahh....so anything over those dimensions will tell me how much lift i'm working with, so for replacement parts do i just add the difference to the stock dimensions?
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Remove track bars, keep sway bar. Track bar is not needed on yjs because they are leaf sprung suspension. Do some research there is plenty of in depth info, I'm just keeping it simple. I removed my track bars and ride improved greatly.
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It should be 9" to the bottom of the differential and 18" to the bottom of the tub below the driver's door. You can measure and determine what the lift is from that.
Stupid question......wouldn't it depend on tire size too?
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I didn't know they made smaller then one inch. Geez I need to catch up on my yj stuff lol.
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If you look close he does have 2 stabilizers. The conventional one and the one with the red cover. And Yes They make below 1" shackles. They have 3/8 to over 2" I believe so thats why I was curious to how you could tell just a 3/8" difference lol
Wow I didn't even see the other stabilizer. Mines the opposite. Mine is on the outside of the tie rod
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Cliff notes on Track Bars:

Required with coil springs, as their range of motion is unlimited- up, down, left, right, forward, and back. Leaf springs can only flex up and down, Track Bars have to move in an arch. They bind up the whole suspension with leaf springs.

You should keep your swaybar and install an inexpensive swaybar disconnect kit. Stock ride height is 18" to the rocker panel. You are definitely on a lift, those aren't stock shackles and stock leaf springs are pretty close to being flat.
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Cliff notes on Track Bars:

Required with coil springs, as their range of motion is unlimited- up, down, left, right, forward, and back. Leaf springs can only flex up and down, Track Bars have to move in an arch. They bind up the whole suspension with leaf springs.

You should keep your swaybar and install an inexpensive swaybar disconnect kit. Stock ride height is 18" to the rocker panel. You are definitely on a lift, those aren't stock shackles and stock leaf springs are pretty close to being flat.
But that 18"s changes depending on tires.... So that's not really able to judge
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But that 18"s changes depending on tires.... So that's not really able to judge
Yes that 18" is stock though. If he had bigger tires on a stock vehicle then it would change. But say his jeep was stock. Totally. It would be 18" to the rockers. Now. You add lift and/ or tires and that is your lift. That 18" is just a general reference from the stock position.
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But that 18"s changes depending on tires.... So that's not really able to judge
Sure you can. Stock height is 9" to the bottom of the pumpkin. measure the height it is now, and subtract the difference from the measurement that you get at the bottom of the body, then minus the stock body height and that would give you the lift height.

The only thing that will change the pumpkin height is the height of the tires. The lift kit has nothing to do with that.
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Sure you can. Stock height is 9" to the bottom of the pumpkin. measure the height it is now, and subtract the difference from the measurement that you get at the bottom of the body, then minus the stock body height and that would give you the lift height.

The only thing that will change the pumpkin height is the height of the tires. The lift kit has nothing to do with that.
^^^^what he said lmao. I suck with wording. Not good when you've got a bachelors in English lol
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I've heard mention of quick disconnect sway bar links, what is the advantage of those?
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I've heard mention of quick disconnect sway bar links, what is the advantage of those?
There "quick".
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I've heard mention of quick disconnect sway bar links, what is the advantage of those?
Being able to quickly disconnect your swaybar by pulling a couple of pins.
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What's the advantage of disconnecting them?
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What's the advantage of disconnecting them?
It gives your tires.. Umm. More room to work with. I have no idea how to describe it.
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What's the advantage of disconnecting them?
Sway bars limit the amount of travel your suspension will go. Removings the sway bars or disconnecting them allows you suspension to flex More.
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newb here - what is a pumpkin?

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