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Old 12-10-2008, 10:52 PM
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I need a build plan!

So I have decided that I am gonna lift my jeep and want to go with 33"s. I dont wanna upgrade axle's, yet. I have been reading and come to the conclusion that SOA is better than a 4-6" lift. I was already planning a sye/new driveshaft. I will have about 3k to put into this jeep when I am building. Help me find the best route to take.

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Old 12-10-2008, 11:29 PM   #2
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SYE is best bet, and you might have to change gearing, otherwise youll be sluggish up hills

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Old 12-11-2008, 01:18 AM
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that is what I was thinking. Especially with that massive 4 banger in there. I have been thinking of doing somthing to BOOST the power of that motor. I am pretty wise when it comes to turbos so maybe that is gonna be in the future. I think a t28 on that motor would be almost identical to a supercharger, with out the paracitic loss from a belt. First is the SOA and SYE I spent a few hours reading and I have got the concept now. It is mostly work that costs money so I should be good If I do it all my self.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:00 AM   #4
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even though us said your not going to......i would upgrade to a 4:10 8.8 while youve got that junk d35 pulled to put new springs on
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:37 AM
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I was lookin at it. In my area the price of a 8.8 is right around the same as a dana 44 from a cheroke. I think I would rather do the 44. I think I could get all of this acomplished under 3k. SOA with the SYE/drive shaft and the dana 44. I think it would be pretty bad ass. 4:10 would be good for the ratio?

would 35's be too much for the motor to turn?

Would an isuzu trooper rear axle work (58 in wide) its a 4.56 and going for $150. Disc brakes also.
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:39 AM   #6
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ive seen the trooper axles in there before.....you are not going to find a cherokee 44 for the same price as an 8.8 b/c you wont find one with decent gears in it....the 8.8s came with 4:10s...so tack ont he cost of gears to the cost of a cherokee rearend.........

Also this might get things stirred up but ive watched ford 8.8s hold up better than those cherokee 44s......8.8s have bigger ring gears, bigger axle shafts, bigger axle tubes and disc brakes......they are about 150-200 around here so to me its a no brainer
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:11 AM   #7
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agree w/ flattietj! and w/ soa you will need axlewrap protection. either a 5th link or limiting straps. unless of course your just making it taller to see empty parking lot spaces better. ahhh, the endless debate of soa/sua. i myself who has money to go either route will stay sua. i believe it a better/safer and more tacticle way to platform a jeep.yes looking cool is important, but i think getting through the obsticle and the next one without breakage is paramount. my 4" sua w/ tires and everything (doing it myself)cost me alittle over 4k. you can tack on another $1,000.00 or so to achieve s.o.a and s.y.e AND antiwrap. srry just some facts. AND my LEAF setup was less expensive than your coils.
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Old 12-13-2008, 04:29 PM
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I am not building this for parking lots. I like to play in the mud! The 8.8's I have seen in my area are like 400-500. It sounds like it is still the best choice. I was looking at sua at first and I think I would prefer soa with sye. I did not know I need more stuff but that is why I am in here reading and asking ??'s. I want my rig to be good and not just a hack job.
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I am not building this for parking lots. I like to play in the mud! The 8.8's I have seen in my area are like 400-500. It sounds like it is still the best choice. I was looking at sua at first and I think I would prefer soa with sye. I did not know I need more stuff but that is why I am in here reading and asking ??'s. I want my rig to be good and not just a hack job.
if you want to play in the mud, sell the jeep and buy a big block truck. mud requires clearance and power. go to a u-pull it, a 8.8 should be around 100 bucks. being a hack is all in how you build something. a SOA is a big job to tackle for someone who does not understand pinion angle, caster, camber, axle wrap, etc. i am not saying you do or you dont. just dont go hacking it up like you are a skilled mechanic.

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agree w/ flattietj! and w/ soa you will need axlewrap protection. either a 5th link or limiting straps. unless of course your just making it taller to see empty parking lot spaces better. ahhh, the endless debate of soa/sua. i myself who has money to go either route will stay sua. i believe it a better/safer and more tacticle way to platform a jeep.yes looking cool is important, but i think getting through the obsticle and the next one without breakage is paramount. my 4" sua w/ tires and everything (doing it myself)cost me alittle over 4k. you can tack on another $1,000.00 or so to achieve s.o.a and s.y.e AND antiwrap. srry just some facts. AND my LEAF setup was less expensive than your coils.
disagree with soa being more expensive......u can run stock springs and if you are crafty you can make every thing else work with basic parts.......your steering will be the hardest part to figure out......think teraflex high steer or find a grand cherokee that has the high steer knuckel......i thnk 99-03....correct me boys
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:53 PM
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I was planning on getting a high steer kit. Also looked into the skyjacker 5th member. Any pros/cons on it? I am doing the math and it isnt gonna be that expensive. I am not gonna even start till next AUG when I get back from Afganistan so I will have lots of time to do my reasearch. 3k isnt my cap I just wanted to keep it close to that.
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Old 12-15-2008, 12:19 AM
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Ok so after some research and reading I have compiled a list of what I should get. In no particular order:
Terra Flex High steer kit; $362
SYE; $239
SOA kit (perches brake lines etc) $310
Tie rod and draglink for 4"+ lifts $165
5th link $362
Rims $200
Tires $900
4:10 gears for the front axle; $187
shocks; $200

posi lock to get rid of the vac lines $230

8.8 rear end $150-300.
So my pricing is right around $3300 bucks. I can do all by myself except I have never regeared an axle. Is there anything that I am forgeting. I will prob need to take it and have it alligned.

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