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Old 05-21-2018, 09:28 PM
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Is the yj the best jeep?

After 43 years of motorcycles my bad health has made that life a great memory. I purchased an inexpensive jeep, my 4 cyl. Yj, just to see if jeeping is something I want to do. It is a great alternative. Now I am ready for a better jeep. I have seen and driven some tj’s and am disappointed with them. They ride very hard , stiffer than my yj, not a lot more powerful ,6 cyl. and all of them have this annoying little wiggle in the rear end. I drove a couple cj’s but I have not found one I like better than my yj. So far in my search I have not found a Jeep that I like better than the one I have. Maybe I am just used to it but so far my stock 4 cyl. Yj on 28” tires is the best riding and performing one I have driven. We take our jeep out at least once a month usually twice. We live in the So Cal. Desert with mountains all around us. We do mostly trails and washes. Mostly exploring. I would like to have a/c and more power but so far it’s not a good trade off. I am considering building up my jeep but in the end I would have 8k in a 4 cyl. Yj worth 3k. I don’t know whether to wait for a great deal on a Jeep I like or go ahead and start the build but of course then I will be committed.

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If you want a/c it CAN be added to a yj tho the 4 cyl has little surplus power to run it... tj's have far better a/c systems and generally ride better than yj's tho once either is lifted all bets are off as a good yj lift or poor tj lift can quickly reverse that...
Any poor handling (ie wiggle) was undoubtedly a result of either damaged components or poor modifications of which there are LOTS out there

I have multiple yj's and multuple tj's and love em all but my 04 tj drives the best and my 94 yj comes in second.... that said the yj has LOTS going for it and is far from junk even if it's in a little rougher condition.
Both track and handle perfectly
Both have cruise, a/c, 4.0, hardtop, full doors, 4.5" lift and 33 10.50 km2's so it's a very fair comparison...

The 4.0 is miles ahead of the 2.5 power wise... if you were driving lifted jeeps in which the 4.0 didn't impress you then most likely they hadn't been regeared for the larger tires...
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It's too bad you're so far away or I'd let you ride in both....
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:44 PM
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Yep. I agree that the lift that was chosen and the maintenance has a lot to do with the ride. I guess I had higher expectations. The lifted 6 cyl. Tj with big ass tires just did not have much more power than my stock 4 cyl. Yj with almost stock tires. And my stock yj rides much better . Don’t get me wrong. I am not ragging on tj’s just surprised at my experience so far.
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Try driving an unlifted TJ with stock tires. Your local Jeep dealer should have such a vehicle. Just because you test drive it doesn't mean you have to buy it. Ima gonna test drive a JL soon, but Ima not gonna buy one.

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Is the YJ the best jeep?
Well, if YOU like it best, it's best.
I like mine better than my daughter's and grandson's TJs and better than my son's JKU, so, yes, it's best.
Case close.
Move along now, nothing to see here folks.
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Just go searching & test driving 4.0l YJs AND TJs in your area. Then you will quickly see which one will suit best for you.

Meanwhile, your 2.5l YJ will be just fine.

And If you want AC in your Jeep, just look for Saharas.
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Take this for what you can. I had a mint condition 1 owner all original 88' YJ with only 100k miles on it. It was garage kept its entire life, paint shined on a cloudy day. My intentions were to fix it up and drive it. I started by buying a brand new 2.5l Jasper motor and if you know Jasper; they make the best motors. Had my shop install it with all new accessories: water pump, alternator, starter, everything all new.

After putting 50 miles on it I sold it for a 92 4.0L YJ with 222k miles and started building. Haven't looked back since.

The JK is smoother, more direct, has AC with a better stereo, and gets better gas mileage; but I prefer to drive the YJ.
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I'm blessed in my retirement that I can afford pretty much anything I want within reason.
I can't afford a new Learjet 70 (or even an old used up one).

I chose my '87 because it's rust free, 6cyl, standard shift and has a carb. If there's ever an EMP or the SHTF, I'll be able to get around for a year or so until the gasoline runs out or civilization returns to some kind of normality. For me, an early YJ is the best. For most folks I'd recommend a '94 or earlier TJ.

A lot depends on:
Budget...initial purchase, maintenance and proposed mods.
Proposed use....daily driver, trail rig, rock crawler or mixed use.
Owners ability....mechanical experience, tool kit and place to work.

YJs are simple to work on and don't have air bags. The leaf springs are easy to work on.
TJs have air bags and the A/C works much better. The coil springs typically ride better.

You can invest a ton of dough in either.
Newer vehicles are less likely to be as rusty than older vehicles.

Bottom line is test drive a bunch of either as SirLancelot suggests. In doing so, you'll get a good idea of what you want and also, a good idea of cost/value.

Good Luck, L.M.
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I'm blessed in my retirement that I can afford pretty much anything I want within reason.
I can't afford a new Learjet 70 (or even an old used up one).

I chose my '87 because it's rust free, 6cyl, standard shift and has a carb. If there's ever an EMP or the SHTF, I'll be able to get around for a year or so until the gasoline runs out or civilization returns to some kind of normality. For me, an early YJ is the best. For most folks I'd recommend a '94 or earlier TJ.

A lot depends on:
Budget...initial purchase, maintenance and proposed mods.
Proposed use....daily driver, trail rig, rock crawler or mixed use.
Owners ability....mechanical experience, tool kit and place to work.

YJs are simple to work on and don't have air bags. The leaf springs are easy to work on.
TJs have air bags and the A/C works much better. The coil springs typically ride better.

You can invest a ton of dough in either.
Newer vehicles are less likely to be as rusty than older vehicles.

Bottom line is test drive a bunch of either as SirLancelot suggests. In doing so, you'll get a good idea of what you want and also, a good idea of cost/value.

Good Luck, L.M.
Feel free to come down to Colorado City and show me how easy my rusted on hardware is.. lol
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you might get some biased answers posting in the YJ section, just saying.
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you might get some biased answers posting in the YJ section, just saying.
I wouldn't think so. But we could test that by posting in in the lesser Jeep sections and see what happens!
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I wouldn't think so. But we could test that by posting in in the lesser Jeep sections and see what happens!
See what I mean! haha

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