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Old 10-08-2019, 11:22 AM   #181
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Hey peeps,
1. Has anyone updated their sealed beam headlights to
LED headlights in a 90’s yj ?

2. If so do they require more battery or special or additional wiring?

3. What to brand to stay away from?

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Hey peeps,
1. Has anyone updated their sealed beam headlights to
LED headlights in a 90’s yj ?

2. If so do they require more battery or special or additional wiring?

3. What to brand to stay away from?

Thanks for any information

Most including me went for H4 conversion housings and a relay conversion over cheap LED's. Chinese LED's project light badly, are ugly and ruin the look of the YJ. The H4 conversion project light better and are much more aesthetic. Truck-lite makes a good quality LED that are not as ugly as the chinese ebay specials but they run about $400.

I run relativity inexpensive Hella E code H4 housings and Phillips X-treme Vision +130% bulbs. They are much brighter than my old sealed beam Sylvania Silverstar sealed beams. And the Silverstar sealed beams were brighter than the standard sealed beams that were in it before that.

If you want even better housings Cibie housings are reportedly better than the Hellas at projecting light and you can get them from here Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Don't waste money on chinese ebay garbage.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:58 PM   #183
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Most including me went for H4 conversion housings and a relay conversion over cheap LED's. Chinese LED's project light badly, are ugly and ruin the look of the YJ. The H4 conversion project light better and are much more aesthetic. Truck-lite makes a good quality LED that are not as ugly as the chinese ebay specials but they run about $400.

I run repetitively inexpensive Hella E code H4 housings and Phillips X-treme Vision +130% bulbs. They are much brighter than my old sealed beam Sylvania Silverstar sealed beams. And the Silverstar sealed beams were brighter than the standard sealed beams that were in it before that.

If you want even better housings Cibie housings are reportedly better than the Hellas at projecting light and you can get them from here Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Don's waste money on chinese ebay garbage.


Something like this

https://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_121.htm


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I've never heard of Delta Tech headlights.
I have Hella H4s and don't plan on replacing them.
If I were you, I'd stick with Hella or Cibie E-code headlights. I don't think the brand name headlights are any more expensive than the off brand lights.
The E-code lights have the European standard pattern and aren't approved by the US DOT.
I've heard that they're illegal. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket for them. The fact that they're not approved doesn't mean they're illegal.
With globalization, the E-code headlights might get approval by the DOT in the future.

If you go with E-code headlights, make sure to get E-codes for mainland Europe. Headlights made for England, Japan and other countries that drive on the left side of the road will have a light pattern that will bother oncoming traffic in countries that drive on the right side of the road.

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I've never heard of Delta Tech headlights.
I have Hella H4s and don't plan on replacing them.
If I were you, I'd stick with Hella or Cibie E-code headlights. I don't think the brand name headlights are any more expensive than the off brand lights.
The E-code lights have the European standard pattern and aren't approved by the US DOT.
I've heard that they're illegal. I don't know if that's true or not, but I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket for them. The fact that they're not approved doesn't mean they're illegal.
With globalization, the E-code headlights might get approval by the DOT in the future.

If you go with E-code headlights, make sure to get E-codes for mainland Europe. Headlights made for England, Japan and other countries that drive on the left side of the road will have a light pattern that will bother oncoming traffic in countries that drive on the right side of the road.

Good Luck, L.M.


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That was just one brand of conversion kit that quadratec sells there are more on their website.


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This is the style or something similar that guys went too. Plug and play. They give u an adapter harness to plug into the OEM one. I like the look....
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LEDs used to be real expensive. Like many things, the cost has come down over the years as more and more companies enter the competition.
That said, cheap is cheap for a reason. If the cheap and expensive LED lights were the same quality, nobody would buy the expensive ones and they'd disappear from the market. If a person is considering buying LED headlights, I strongly suggest that they read as many reviews as they can find. I don't rely on the reviews on the sellers websites.

I'm an old buzzard and a traditionalist. I don't care for the look of LED headlights on a YJ. Nor do I care for the ghost ring round headlights. That's just my personal opinion.
Plenty of vehicle owners must like them or the manufacturers wouldn't have them for sale.
I'm also thrifty. I usually spend some time researching a product prior to opening my wallet.
IMHO, the H4 conversion is the biggest bang for your buck when it comes to headlights. For a little over a hundred bucks plus the cost of a harness, you get a BIG improvement over the stock headlights.
The cheapest LED lights I find at Quadratec are $180.00 and the most expensive are $500.00. I can't imagine that the cheap LED headlights produce the same quality beam and will last as long as the more expensive ones. Cheap is cheap for a reason.

If you like the look and want LED headlights, spend the dough and buy the better ones.
If you like the look but are thrifty like me, think about how much better might the LEDs be than the H4s. Are they worth the higher cost?
If you don't like the look of the LED headlights on a YJ, well.....Put the H4s on yours and don't worry about what someone else likes.

Good Luck, L.M.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:34 PM   #188
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LEDs used to be real expensive. Like many things, the cost has come down over the years as more and more companies enter the competition.
That said, cheap is cheap for a reason. If the cheap and expensive LED lights were the same quality, nobody would buy the expensive ones and they'd disappear from the market. If a person is considering buying LED headlights, I strongly suggest that they read as many reviews as they can find. I don't rely on the reviews on the sellers websites.

I'm an old buzzard and a traditionalist. I don't care for the look of LED headlights on a YJ. Nor do I care for the ghost ring round headlights. That's just my personal opinion.
Plenty of vehicle owners must like them or the manufacturers wouldn't have them for sale.
I'm also thrifty. I usually spend some time researching a product prior to opening my wallet.
IMHO, the H4 conversion is the biggest bang for your buck when it comes to headlights. For a little over a hundred bucks plus the cost of a harness, you get a BIG improvement over the stock headlights.
The cheapest LED lights I find at Quadratec are $180.00 and the most expensive are $500.00. I can't imagine that the cheap LED headlights produce the same quality beam and will last as long as the more expensive ones. Cheap is cheap for a reason.

If you like the look and want LED headlights, spend the dough and buy the better ones.
If you like the look but are thrifty like me, think about how much better might the LEDs be than the H4s. Are they worth the higher cost?
If you don't like the look of the LED headlights on a YJ, well.....Put the H4s on yours and don't worry about what someone else likes.

Good Luck, L.M.


Hello
It does not matter if they are led just upgrade and updating my headlights. For my 90 yj
Quadratec only has 11 options available. They are all H4s and one is a Hella conversion

https://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6011.htm


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It does not matter if they are led just upgrade and updating my headlights. For my 90 yj
Quadratec only has 11 options available. They are all H4s and one is a Hella conversion

https://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_6011.htm


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The bulbs that come in that kit do not produce very good light. If you want brighter whiter light you need to use better bulbs. I used Philips X-treme +130% 9003/H4 bulbs i got them off ebay for around $20.
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The bulbs that come in that kit do not produce very good light. If you want brighter whiter light you need to use better bulbs. I used Philips X-treme +130% 9003/H4 bulbs i got them off ebay for around $20.


I know the bulbs, I have on my tractor and in our Prius are that number.


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I know the bulbs, I have on my tractor and in our Prius are that number.


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You will also have to massage the headlight buckets because the Hella housings will not fit. Some people cut the tabs off but it's much easier to just bend them out slightly by hand. There is no need to remove the buckets to do this and it only takes a minute and a pair of hands.

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