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Old 01-18-2006, 11:02 AM
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what should i do. ive always thought 4 in rough country for about 430 but i could go with rustys, or full traction . for around the same price. what would yall do? i also hear bds is pretty cheap and good any info?

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do you really want the cheapest thing out there? (remember this is your baby we are talkin about). I got 4" skyjacker,and by the time you get EVERYTHING that you need when doin a 4" lift i spent almost 3 grand....SO where are you getting a price like $430.00??? pitman arm...70.00
sway bar disconnects......90.00
flex-brake hose....75.00
transfer case lowering kit..40.00
(mine) skyjacker 4" lift kit.....759.95
and thats just BARE BONZ!!!!that will get you off the ground at 4", but to be trail ready you WILL need alot more. Namley, our axels are KRAP! and you will need to either reinforce your existing axels(a product that wraps around axels and replaces diferential cover)or swap out axle for a better one.But thats all upon what you plan to do w/ the jeep. But to lift it CORRECTLY plan on at least $1,100 or so...out of all the ones you talked about,I'd go with the BDS

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I used the 4" rough country on my tj, cost me $500 w/ free shipping, but by the time I've been through my upgrades, as you can see in my tagline: axles $1500 + install-$700, SYE kit and driveshaft-$560, plus time or labor for the lift- whether you take it to a shop or not, and tires/wheels-$960 = $3720+ easy. Lifts aren't cheap!!!
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:05 PM
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well the rough country is supposed to be 430 for my yj and i thinks thats everything. also rusty is supposed to be like 500 or so and 250 for instillation. soooo....
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If I were you I would stay away from BDS. I have seen several sets of their leafs that have flattened out way too fast.

That price you got quoted for the kits you mentioned is a good deal. Plus they should have all of the pieces that were mentioned above, as the pitman arm and tcase drop should be included. Pro Comp also doesn't make a bad 4 in. lift for a YJ.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:04 PM   #6
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ok, jeep texas, does that kit include ALL the other items I mentioned? because when you raise a vehicle as high as you say you are going to lift it(4") you NEED OTHER UPGRADES...like the ones I mentioned. if that price is all included RUN away from it and buy something worth your money ...you WILL spend 3k easy or go the budget route and get a body lift. (that includes tires ,but you have 31's so you might just keep those)SOOOO, 1,700$ bucks or so.I just dont want you to get involved before you know exactly what your gettin into...it will take some other mods not just the lift...
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:13 PM   #7
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nice ride 04money pit,tryin' to figure which axle to go with myself right now...Im holding out for air lockers though.(wont be until 06 taxes..grrr!) but soon enough.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:56 PM
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well ive seen alot of people on this site with rough country. so if ya got a yj and rough country how much was it and do ya like it?
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:04 AM   #9
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When I started looking at lifts for my YJ the thing that became clear very early in the search was that at 4", the lift was going to drive so many other modifications that werem't part of the "complete" kit. Kits don't include SYE, new drive lines, and all the other things the other posters have mentioned.

I chose to spend $570 on a Rubicon Express 2-1/2" kit and never looked back. Someday when we're ready to dive further into more extreme trails (or lack there of) we'll look at the 4" lift.
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Old 01-19-2006, 10:33 AM
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well i see 04moneypit has 4 in rough country. howd that work out. Cost? Info?
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:45 PM   #11
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I am not very happy with my rough country lift. I found out why they call it rough country. When I get the chance to do it over I am looking at Rubicon Express or Full Traction. This is one of those cases, as most with Jeep parts, that you get what you pay for. I know Rough Country has changed their products since I bought mine, but that is my $.02. Now, for the expense of a 4" lift. I agree with all of these $3,000 dollar numbers if you are building a rig for extreme trails and very hard use, but most of us aren't running extreme trails every weekend. I have had my 3" Rough Coutry lift with 2" lift shackles for three or four years now and about 30,000 miles with stock drive shafts and axles with no problems. Again, just my $.02, but build it for your intended purchase. For a DD and medium duty trail rig you will be fine with an out of the bix kit. Just make sure it is a good quality kit and it will make you happy.
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If I were you I would stay away from BDS. I have seen several sets of their leafs that have flattened out way too fast.

That price you got quoted for the kits you mentioned is a good deal. Plus they should have all of the pieces that were mentioned above, as the pitman arm and tcase drop should be included. Pro Comp also doesn't make a bad 4 in. lift for a YJ.
but the bds has a lifetime warranty if you break it they replace it i have had a bds in mine for 4 years with the hard top on in the winter and no probs with the springs yet
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but the bds has a lifetime warranty if you break it they replace it i have had a bds in mine for 4 years with the hard top on in the winter and no probs with the springs yet
Yeah, they do have a lifetime warranty, but they are a pain in the *ss to deal with about it. Also there's probably a reason they have that warranty, because their junk wears out too fast. However it's good to hear your experience has been good with them. IMO thoe good ones are pretty few and far between.
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I've got a 92 YJ with a 3.5 BDS lift and a 2" body lift. I run Q78-15 (36x15.5x15) TSL super swampers. Both axles are locked, loc rite in the front, detroit in the rear. Rear axle mods: Warn 5 on 4.5 full floter kit with lock out hubs, 4.88 gears, detroit, super 35 axle truss. Front axle mods: Warn heavy duty axles, 297 joints, 4.88 gears, lock rite, super axle seals. This Jeep pulls rock duty when I'm wheeling.
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I love my Rough Country 4" on my '94 YJ.
It flexs well.
I got the whole kit direct from them including the dropped pitman arm, shocks, steering stablezer, extended bump stops, etc.
The only thing it didn't have was a say bar disco. I took the sway bar off anyway so no biggie.
I did the install myself in around 7ish hours.
I run 33s with very little rub and I do trail ride it.
I have bent one spring (my fault not the spring) and they were fast at getting me a new set.

Look into Black Diamond also. I have their 3" kit on my '66 cj5.
Hope this helps ya.
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This is kinda left field, but have you considered a SOA kit? (Rocky Road makes one I think) It is a no cut/no weld kit that uses your stock springs and places them over the axle for about 4" of lift or so. When I looked into this kit it CLAIMED to have everything necessary to get your yj back rolling after the lift. Our friend Felsengleiskette of course is giving you the expert advice of doing everything bullet proof for true offroading, but you need to know what exactly you're gonna have that ole' seven slot grill runnin through. Just some food for thought.
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dont be fooled by the "easy soa lift" you will need a slip yoke eliminator a new cv drive shaft brake line extensions steering flip to the top of the knuckles some sort of axle wrap limiting device that doesnt eat up all your newfound articulation .....

but that is just my opinion
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dont be fooled by the "easy soa lift" you will need a slip yoke eliminator a new cv drive shaft brake line extensions steering flip to the top of the knuckles some sort of axle wrap limiting device that doesnt eat up all your newfound articulation .....

but that is just my opinion
I agree. There is nothing easy to doing an SOA correctly.
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Old 02-18-2006, 08:35 AM   #19
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Oh my god!!! this is slightly off topic...well its kinda on topic,well hell...MY FLIPPIN WIFE SCREWED HER FILE STATUS ON HER TAXES, AND NOW WE OWE 1500.00 BUCKS!!!!no jeep mods for me!!!! I was supposed to get that money for air lockers& gears (at least money towards purchase)and now im back to ruddie-poot square one! I should take her out on a trail just to get stuck and say: SEE! if I had MY LOCKERS we could be home before dark...are you good and cumfy?
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That sucks....better luck next year. I already spent my $4300 return, if that makes you feel any better.
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purchased 4" Rough country.It included: 4 springs,4 (very harsh) shocks, track bar mounts, bump stops, brakeline brackets, transfer drop kit, sway bar links, hardware, bushings, wedges on rear springs, shock boots, and some stickers. The ride on pavement hasn't changed much. Only 1 small hole to drill. No problems yet. I am not running trac. bars or swaybar now, and will probably remove the bump stops for more travel.
Would recomed ordering a matching steering stabalizer.
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i have the rough country lift for a 98 tj,4",not bad at all for the $.but you dont get disco's or extended brake lines

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