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Old 12-19-2008, 05:12 AM
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lift suggestions.....help me out

Okay, I've decided against doing a budget lift(shackles, add a leaf ) . Gonna hold out for a good lift. I'm trying to decide what to go with though. Thats where you guys come in to play...lol. I've been looking at either a rough country 4" lift kit with shocks and everything for $499 ....... OR ........ a 5.5 inch SOA rough country kit for $349. If the soa is better,(so I've read), then why is it cheaper? It comes with everything you need(plus shocks), just like the SUA kit. I'm confused.....lol...so many different ways to go about this. The SOA gives a more comfy ride and more lift for cheaper......so why would I want to do a SUA kit??? Either way, it's gonna be a little while before I actually buy one, but I want to know exactly what I'm getting into either way I go. BTW, my stock leaf packs are nice and tight still after 18 years so a SOA would work great right? So far, I think I'm leaning more towards the SOA.

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SUA is going to be completely bolt on and require few, if any, modifications. SOA uses the stock springs and other parts, which makes it cheaper, but it requires welding and more modifications. SOA will end up being several times as much once its all said and done.

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ol red is right, but it all depends on how you plan on using the jeep.

usually SOA applications are not for daily drivers/


if you will do occasionlal offroad, but mostly pavement pounder, do a 4" spring under lift that you could install yerself.

you are lookin around $2k ( 33" tires, 15x10" rims, 4" lift ) just to give ya an idea.

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i gotta disagree with stump about the daily driver. soa is far superior. they make bolt on kits for soa also, but you have your original perches, and then bolts hanging down under the axle, kinda defeating the purpose. and you would be better off getting new springs when you do soa anyway, stock or 1.5" springs, cuz your originals are gonna turn into frowning faces and get whats called axle wrap. they will sag badly w/ soa.

as far as the daily driver, if you do soa right, it will ride even better than stock. it will ride way better than a 4" sua lift. those springs are stiffer to have a bigger arc, to make the jeep lifted.

everyone is right, it will cost more to do soa properly than any sua lift.
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Thanks guys. I searched here and on nc4x4 all night last night trying to figure out what I'm gonna do. I found a 4 inch sua kit local, and for a good price, so I may just do that. It's for a cj though, and he said it was 1/2" smaller, but it would still work fine.
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cj lift kit will not work on yj. the springs are narrower. yj springs are an improved design from cj, and are way different.
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4" sua kits ride like bricks...soa it and you will be much happier on and off road....when lifting a jeep dont go for the cheapest, save your money and go for the best for it will pay off in the long run.....1.5-2" springs soa will ride like a cadilac and flex like a maniac
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I have to disagree a comparable SUA to SOA would cost more like 1200.00 for parts and that would be RE's SUA 4.5 extreme lift YJ 4.5" EXTREME-DUTY KIT here is a pic of it on a jeep w/ 35" tires


here is a SOA cj w/ 36" tires


here is another with a few more mods but same suspension


The biggest thing is a properly installed SOA lift is HARDER TO INSTALL this is where most people have issue because you actually have to think about what you are doing

an SOA will require the following at a basic level
shocks 200.00
spring perches 60.00
driveshafts 400.00
ubolts 40.00
brake lines 80.00

the following would be needed for either suspension and won't be in any kit.

sye 200.00 can be run without I have done it but not for DD
antiwrap bar 150.00

close to the same price but when you want to upgrade it is easily adaptable and you won't be replacing the entire suspension. stock yj springs are give aways and they work great for SOA builds. You can get by cheaper by using a cherokee front drive shaft for the rear it will already have the double carden on it.

Labor is what will kill you on it but depending on your level of skill it might not be so bad.

here are a couple of flex shots from an SOA suspension


same jeep



notice how in the second pic the jeep sits level here and the suspension moves with the axle that is hard to accomplish with a SUA lift. My friend with the rescue jeep above was always trying to figure out how to get his jeep to flex like mine, we could never get it to do so. You CAN'T get the same flex or ride out of a high arched spring as you can out of a low arch spring it just isn't possible with the weight ratio's of these jeeps.
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Cool, thanks for all the info man. I'm gonna start saving my money and go with the SOA probably. I have 4wd friends that will help me with putting it all together...welding, cutting...etc... I want that flex that the soa gives.

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