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Old 07-30-2012, 12:19 PM
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Love talking about lifts, one more post

The YJ is stock right now. Like every good Jeeper, I want to lift it and put bigger tires on. I haven't done any real wheeling yet. I got it seven or eight months ago and been emptying every pocket to get everything mechanical working well. I do look for any opportunity to play with 4x4, but it is and will be a DD for a while.

I'm want 33x12.5x15 or 10.5...not sure...As it's mostly a DD, should I go with the 10.5? Isn't that better for offroad too? I like the look of the wider tires though...

Can I get away with a 2.5" lift? I imagine there would be rubbing when there's any amount of flex. I don't want to get into T-case drop, SYE, bigger axel, re-gearing at this point. I was hoping tires and lift only for now to save a few $$. How long can I get away with this? And after, what order of upgrades come next?

Somebody recommended Rubi Express, and I think I'll go with that over a bargain brand.

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Go with a 2.5 lift and 31x10.50's and you will be very happy.

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Go with a 2.5 lift and 31x10.50's and you will be very happy.
I agree with the 2.5" lift and 31x10.5X15 tires. Thats what I did and no rubbing at all.
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I guess I would ask myself what your goal is long term. If you really only want to go offroad once in a while and you are on a tight budget, sounds like the 31s with a 2.5 inch lift would be fine. Of course, if you want to go higher you'll be spending the money twice...
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What I did when I first got my jeep (I was dumb) was put a 2 inch body lift in and fit 31s. I love it but I know that its just so I can look cool until I have the money to go suspension and get the performance aspect down. If you don't really do a whole lot of wheeling at all, you don't have to pay out a whole bunch of cash and have the hassle of doing suspension twice. I know it's not a great option but if you just wanna go with a small lift for now and don't need a whole lot of functionality its a cheap way to go FOR NOW
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Go with 2.5 with 31's if you wanna keep it almost stock looking. Or for about same price get the 4 inch from rc. The Tcase drop is simple as can be, so don't sweat that. And then you can run 33's. I got the 4 inch a few weeks ago and already want to be bigger... It will never stop lol
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I love my 4inch rc lift very eady to do, plus with the lift at my shackles i can run 35 no problem
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I don't want the stock look. I want 35's, but I've heard there's rub unless you do some fender cutting, which I don't feel comfortable doing. So I thought 33's would be good and when i get opportunities, I can take it over pretty much anything.

I thought the t-case drop would be complicated but apparently not. I'm uncomfortable with things like pinion angles. I want to get the lift and tires without a bunch of other necessary work to start. In time, those things should get done. When should the axel swap happen?

I am budget minded, but quality also matters so if a lift is 1000 compared to 500, but the ride is better and lasts longer, i'd spend the extra money.
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Ok so if you have the money then of course get a higher quality lift. I'd say your gonna wanna go with a 4
Inch lift then. If your jeep is pretty rust free then the install is easy. I have the rc lift. I've heard nothing but good from the old man emu lift I think it's called...? As far as Pinion angle, with 4 inches you'll be fine with the Tcase drop. If frame where crossmember meets on both sides is solid then your golden but if it's real rotted like mine was then you may have problems with nuts inside of frame. Mine is currently at the welfare getting that frame area taken care of. I'd say 33's and 4 inches would be good to start. 35's will probably be a tight squeeze and then you run into gearing issues with tires that big, and if you got a 4cylinder I wouldn't go larger than 33's
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Ok so if you have the money then of course get a higher quality lift. I'd say your gonna wanna go with a 4
Inch lift then. If your jeep is pretty rust free then the install is easy. I have the rc lift. I've heard nothing but good from the old man emu lift I think it's called...? As far as Pinion angle, with 4 inches you'll be fine with the Tcase drop. If frame where crossmember meets on both sides is solid then your golden but if it's real rotted like mine was then you may have problems with nuts inside of frame. Mine is currently at the welfare getting that frame area taken care of. I'd say 33's and 4 inches would be good to start. 35's will probably be a tight squeeze and then you run into gearing issues with tires that big, and if you got a 4cylinder I wouldn't go larger than 33's

That's what I was hoping to hear. I think I'll be happy with 33's. I try and snap a few pics of my frame. It looks good being a 20 year vehicle.
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What's gonna give the best ride quality? SOA or standard susp lift? Does it get stiffer with higher lift? Is there a better brand lift for ride quality?
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I've done some reading and looking around. I've came up with a list of what I want.

1) Old Man Emu Lift. But they only come in 2.5"? Will this work with 33's?

2) Bilstein 5100 Shocks

3) OME Shackles with greasable bushings. Will this add height? Enough for 33's?


Other accessories I should get?
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No!! We already answered this. 2.5's and 33's will be way too tight. If you want it to look good, either choose 2.5 and 31's or 4 inch and 33's. Dont know what comes with the ome lift your referring to. You could go 2.5 and then get 1.5 inch shackle lift to run your 33's but I wouldn't
Do that. And If That ome lift kit doesn't come with a Tcase drop you'll have to
Buy that as well. That kit doesn't come with shocks either? Are
You talking just springs? Post a link to the ome one your
Talkin about. The 4" rc lift comes with everything needed and was 475 shipped.
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No!! We already answered this. 2.5's and 33's will be way too tight. If you want it to look good, either choose 2.5 and 31's or 4 inch and 33's. Dont know what comes with the ome lift your referring to. You could go 2.5 and then get 1.5 inch shackle lift to run your 33's but I wouldn't
Do that. And If That ome lift kit doesn't come with a Tcase drop you'll have to
Buy that as well. That kit doesn't come with shocks either? Are
You talking just springs? Post a link to the ome one your
Talkin about. The 4" rc lift comes with everything needed and was 475 shipped.
I think I'm going to piece together the lift because I want the bilstein shocks. I used the chat feature on quadratic and the guy helped me figure out everything needed.

Are there deals out there for quadratec or ome or bilstein? I'm looking at 1200 for everything from quadratec. I'm sure I could call and get a better deal than that.
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DAmn that's a lot of money!
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DAmn that's a lot of money!
130 for each shock

300 for shackles with greasable bushings

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Ya that adds up to over a grand plus shipping. And You need way more than that. Ubolts are a necessity(don't waste time re using the old
Ones) , new spring eye bolts and nuts(I had to cut mine out cuz they were completely seized). If you wanna leave track bars you need New mounting brackets. You need new sway bar end links, drop pitman arm, tcAse drop, brake line relocation brackets or extended ss lines, I went with a steering stabilizer as
well but not needed. That's why I suggested a kit,
They come with just about all of this. Only thing I had to get extra was the stabilizer and spring
Hardware which was 25 bucks. Anyways it's obviously your
Choice lol.
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Anybody familiar with the difference between Rubicon express standard and extreme-duty lifts?
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For the Money...

If you're looking at $1200.00 for parts, I would suggest going all the way with a BDS 4.5" lift kit. For $1600 you can get the whole slam - bushings, bolts, shackles, shocks, brake lines, sway bars, *and* a transfer case drop kit & steering stabilizer. Its a comprehensive kit. The best thing about BDS is their lifetime no questions warranty. If you break it (regardless of abuse) they will replace the parts.

Got one on my '94 YJ. Ride is still a little stiff after 1K miles, but getting better. Unless your Jeep has lived it's life in the desert southwest, plan on cutting most of the bolts off...

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$300.00 for greaseable shackles? That's kinda steep!
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300 for shackles is really high.
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It is important to me that it has a good ride. Because of this, I might go with the ome and 31's. I do want bigger, but that money might be a ways down the road because I know if I go with 4.5 and 33's, I'll want to upgrade the axle and more upgrades will add up.

I think I'm going with 2.5 with 31's for the next few years.
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Good choice. Did you decide on the 2.5 OME or another brand ?

If you've priced the OME lift, can you tell me what it is ?

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I have a 3" body lift I am pulling out of mine in the next week or two if you are interested. Make you a great deal on it. I have 4" susp. lift and the 3"body lift, going back to a 2" body lift. Only have 33" tires for the moment but will be going with 35's soon. I don't like the 3' body lift, it is a bit much of a gap between the frame and body for my taste. Thats why I am changing it. Just figured I would throw that out there.

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