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Old 04-04-2015, 07:53 PM
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Need advice on a 1995 Wrangler

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I am looking at buying my first Jeep Wrangler. I am looking at a 1995 Wrangler, which has 215,000 miles on it. 😕 it has a 4.0L 6 cylinder engine. It has a good body and a nice interior. The dealership is asking $4000. I plan on having a mechanic look at it for any issues but I wanted to know what other Jeep owners thought about the mileage on it and if it is a bigger problem and will cause more issues than it is worth. Thanks in advance for all the help.

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Old 04-04-2015, 10:04 PM   #2
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For something to fart around with on the weekends, the mileage wouldn't bother me, but as a daily driver it raises some concerns. If you want something to make into a crawler, go for it.

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What's your intended use.

Not uncommon for a good 4.0 to go more than 300k miles. Check the fluids, if it runs good without overheating and hasn't been molested, I'd pay $4k for a clean 95 YJ with that many miles.

I know guys that have swapped in junk yard 4.0's. I think you can get rebuilds pretty cheap too (worst case)

Check for rust (frame, spring perches, body mounts, tub corners, etc).

With all that being said - if your looking for a commuter, that might be a different story. Though I would argue that a YJ is kinda like a Lego kit with a TON of aftermarket support, it may prove to be easier to keep running than other $4k commuter options.
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Thanks for the response. I am looking for something to drive around town and off roading but I have no plans on driving it any distances.
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Thanks for the response. I am looking for something to drive around town and off roading but I have no plans on driving it any distances.
If it's clean and/or serviceable sounds like it might be a good deal.

Post some pics if you can. And get history if you can
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I have a 95 yj with the original 2.5L with 226,000 miles and it's my daily driver and it still passes smog.
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It sounds like too much money for a Jeep with that many miles...a good mechanic inspection would be a good place to start. A compression test should be done, as that will tell you a little about the engine.

There's no guarantee that that engine or Jeep was well-maintained over its lifetime, so don't be expecting 300K miles. Also, on a 20 year old Jeep, all the rubber and plastic parts are getting aged and worn. You could be buying a money pit.

Also, I prefer private sellers over dealers...
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It sounds like too much money for a Jeep with that many miles...a good mechanic inspection would be a good place to start. A compression test should be done, as that will tell you a little about the engine. There's no guarantee that that engine or Jeep was well-maintained over its lifetime, so don't be expecting 300K miles. Also, on a 20 year old Jeep, all the rubber and plastic parts are getting aged and worn. You could be buying a money pit. Also, I prefer private sellers over dealers...
I agree on the preference of private sellers, but at $4k, if the body, frame and interior are clean, the fluids all look good (no milk shake) and it runs good on a test drive - I think $4k could be good deal.

Even if you had to swap in a rebuilt 4.0 within the first year, you'd probably be in decent shape - cost wise.

Is the dealer offering any kind of warranty or have they completed any recent service?

I'd be most worried about rust as mentioned and some kind of hidden swaps or bad mods.

Do you have a link to photos or the dealers ad?
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If it's only 4 grand at a dealer, they took it in trade and only gave the person about 1500 to 2 grand for it. I would hammer them on price, big time, Especially at that many miles. If they don't sell it fast, they will give it to a used car dealer for a song.They would rather sell it to you. I go with other people to be the bad guy in the negotiation of car sales. I actually like to hammer sales people for a better price. I have been almost pulled from my car as I was driving away from dealers, to make a deal. I'd offer them 2 grand for it, I swear I would. I'd end up buying at around 3 grand. Never be afraid to tell them you are going to look else where, and walk away.That's when you get your best deal. BTW, I wouldn't buy it, to many miles. I don't like headaches.I also don't really like wrenching on my vehicles to fix things, I'd rather add thing to get me down the trail further.Some people love wrenching on their rides, I'm not one of them. However, I am willing to wrench on the right vehicle. I do have a 1961 Willys I wrench on but, It's WAY beyond anything we are dealing with here. Good luck, don't be afraid to walk away and look else where .
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I bought my 95 from a dealer.... they had it at the crazy asking price of 8K... I drove off after paying $4500 for the unmolested stock great running YJ. I had cash in hand...
as far as the mileage.. I'd have a mechanic look at it and tell you what he thinks... 215000 miles is a lot but it depends on how it was treated by the previous owners. try carfax...
they are simple to work on that's for sure... good luck
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Pics would be great. But I agree with most on here. If its real clean, no rust, start low. But 4grand might not be bad.
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I have been watching YJs at the local auto auctions (dealer only) for about 3 years now and I can tell you that down here if a Jeep can pull itself thru the auction block it will bring $4000. It can be a rusty , smoking ,leaking raggedy piece of crap and certain dealers will pay nose bleed money for these things. I wound up buying a rust free 4 cyl that ran but couldn't drive at a dealers auction in S.C. and paid another $400 to ship it here. And I consider myself lucky. 8 grand more and I have a real Jeep.
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Are you sure that is a 1995 the front side markers say its a 1997 or newer. If it isn't rusty underneath and it runs and drives as it should go for it.
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Are you sure that is a 1995 the front side markers say its a 1997 or newer. If it isn't rusty underneath and it runs and drives as it should go for it.
Thats definitely a TJ after looking at the pics. I guess its a good deal if you're into round headlights and it runs good. If its listed as a 95 from the dealer, i would definitely get the VIN and have a carfax run on it to get more accurate info. Looks nice in the pics...they might have it priced at $4k because they think its older than it really is.
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That is definitely a TJ. Fender flares, fuel filler, hood latchs, wipers, and air filter all tell me that.
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Fishy. I'd scrutinize the crap out of it.

Looks like it may have undergone some repairs. The mirror frames are faded more than the mirrors. The front flare interface with the rocker flares looks odd.

Does it have a clean title?

Price is on the low end for drive able YJ's and super low for a drive able TJ. (Assuming it's somewhat clean as the OP indicated).

I'd look close for other signs of repairs or throw together restoration efforts.
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That's one dumb ass dealership if they are claiming its a 95. Makes me wanna go down there and wave 3500 in their face myself.
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No shackles no leaf springs I see coils...this is a copy of what I had about a decade ago a '98 Sahara with the exception of the hardtop. Id definitely check for rust and fluids drive it all gears and make as well as the 4x4 take a mechanic with you. Miles not that bad considering it HO 4.0L good luck
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Thanks you everybody for your responses. they have been super help full. I am going to go to the dealer Wensday and to see if I can test drive it with a mechanic. I live in a place where we have very little to no rust issues so rust isn't a issue. I also checked today for it and it had none. As for fluids I will be checking those soon. I will also get the vin and use carfax and figure the year and history out. i am hoping every thing is going to look and run good on it. Keepin my fingers crossed. Thanks again for all the responses
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Are there smog regulations or vehicle inspection requirements in your area? You may be able to get a test/inspection history from your DMV.

Also - did you confirm the title is clean and not salvaged?
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Do NOT tell the dealer any information you may find out about the Jeep, such as actual year, etc. It's a Sahara first of all, which wasn't mentioned in your first post leading me to believe the dealer doesn't realize the trim level either. Let them stay in the dark. I'm a sales person myself (for biotech but still) so if they don't know the value of their product, there isn't any reason to teach them.

Secondly, if that turns out to be a TJ Sahara for 4 G's, I'd spring for it. That is a great deal. The motor may have 215 on it, but by the looks of those pictures, it has been in a garage or at least taken care of. YJ's are very easy to work on except for breaking rusted bolts loose (or off), but TJ's aren't that much harder, especially compared to compact cars. At least there's room under the hood in a Jeep.

All told, you could part that Jeep out and make a few grand.

Good price, I'd pop for it.

Good luck and have fun!
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Double banging: That's definitely a TJ. As mentioned earlier, gas filler location, windshield wipers and turn signals. Also the full hard doors don't have the triangle windows like YJ's, and the YJ Sahara only has the Sahara emblem on the tub behind the fender (not the 4.0 etc).

Check the frame for rust, if reasonable, GO!
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definitely a TJ... carfax it and if it's solid... go get it before one of us do! haha Good Luck
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Well? Did you go look at it? Buy it even?
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Hey sorry i haven't given a update. Yes, I went and looked at it yesterday and the dealer said it was a mistake and the Jeep was actually a 99 wrangler Sahara. We went to take it for a test drive but the tire was flat so no go. I am still considering it but the price also went up so that's a factor. Thanks for all your help everybody.
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Sounds like the old bait and switch. I would lose that dealer.

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