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Old 01-18-2009, 02:10 PM
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need some advice

Alright first off im new to the site, been lurking around for a bit but decided to register from the tons of build, and repair info that this wonderful forum has.

well second. Im going to get me a jeep thats a given however im not going to spend a ton of money on one to start off with so im leaning away from tj's which is why i posted in the yj forum because i really like the square lights!.

Anyway, as mentioned before im not gonna spend alot on the original purchase as i want to build it into something nice you know?. however its not going to be a hardcore rockcrawler or anything but more like a DD and trail riding. With that said i was just wondering what i should look for as far as 4cyl ,I6, manual, auto, FI, and carb'ed. I mean my brothers old roomate had a 97 TJ with a 4" lift 33's and 4:56's with the 4cyl and it had good power and still got 14-15 mpg so i dunno.
I would like to know peoples opinions on these before i actually go about with the purchase.
Now as far as the jeep goes im thinking possibly a 6" with 35's or 4" with 33's someone give me some insight on those two setups for trail riding and DD'ing.
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Welcome to the forum.

I started two years ago with a completely stock (no mods) 94 with the 5-spd, 4.0L six, and stepped it up to a 2-1/2" suspension lift and 31's. I run it to work a day or so a week when I can (75 mile RT). She does quite well and runs around 15-16 mpg. I have been contemplating 33's and swapping out to a 4" lift. Spend most of my time running forrest service roads, etc. She performs quite well on the 31's.

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Old 01-18-2009, 02:38 PM
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thanks! and yea i have been hooked for a while just havent purchased one just yet since i move around alot (USAF).. I got hooked when my brother moved into a house where all three of his rommates had jeeps lol.. i loved them all and wanted one ever since then
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My opinion, as far as the lift, the bigger the better. The 6 cylinder is definatley the way to go. I have the 4 cylinder and it does ok, but I wish I had got one with the 6. Welcome to the forum and good luck.
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My opinion, as far as the lift, the bigger the better. The 6 cylinder is definatley the way to go. I have the 4 cylinder and it does ok, but I wish I had got one with the 6. Welcome to the forum and good luck.
yea i have actually been looking around and the 6" is on the pricey side but what i may do is get a 4" lift and either some 1.25" shackles or the 2" shackle reversal kit. However with the reverse kit i would have to get a new drive shaft so im not to sure on that route. Maybe in the end it will be the 4" susp with a 1.25" shackle lift and a 1" body to give be about 6.25"s of lift with some 33"s what do you guys think?
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the 6 is the only way to go . the four doesnt have it . if its just for back and forth maybe , but not if u lift it and add more weight . the yj is easier to work with then the tj , leaf springs are way more easy to deal with, than coil over . but on the other side the yj is far more primitive than the tj. the heater is not as hot than the tj .
once u get a yj u need to put on a cold air . i love mine. it gives u that power that u need. i dusted my buddys tacoma off the line welcome to the forum. have ?s here is where to get answers u guys talkin mpg . remember that when u go bigger on tires that thros your odometer off , i have 32 on mine and im of by 5mph or more
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the 6 is the only way to go . the four doesnt have it . if its just for back and forth maybe , but not if u lift it and add more weight . the yj is easier to work with then the tj , leaf springs are way more easy to deal with, than coil over . but on the other side the yj is far more primitive than the tj. the heater is not as hot than the tj .
once u get a yj u need to put on a cold air . i love mine. it gives u that power that u need. i dusted my buddys tacoma off the line welcome to the forum. have ?s here is where to get answers
i see. yea my brothers old roommate had the four in his tj and he said before the 4:56's it was horrible, but after it was just like it normally was with a tad more tq at low end at low speeds.
thanks and so far this site is great!, As for the heater im planning on staying here in phoenix and such so the winters here aren't nothin.
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i agree, go with 4.0, you'll be glad. look into soa lift, and 33 or 35 tires that way. not the cheapest, but far superior suspension.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:58 PM
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i agree, go with 4.0, you'll be glad. look into soa lift, and 33 or 35 tires that way. not the cheapest, but far superior suspension.
well see i was reviewing on here about the SOA and most people said that its better for an off road rig and since mine will be more of a dd and trails that the SUA lift is ok. i dunno. Im getting it as a garage project for a while then after its DDable then it will be my truck plus the wifes bad weather truck you know?
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if soa is done right, it rides better than stock. soa will ride better on road than a 4 or 6 inch spring under lift. 4" sua lift will be cheaper, easier, and quicker.
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i have the 4" spring under lift. it rides really rough. i would recommend the soa. quight expensive if you cant do some fabbing your self.
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Old 01-19-2009, 01:21 AM
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im a wierd one i actually like a stiffer ride than softer. i dunno it makes me feel more in control of the vehicle, however im probably going to end up going to "cheaper route" and get an SUA lift because i wont have access to a welder and im not that great at welding.. The only welding im gonna start learning with will be some sheets of metal then move on to the roll cage before i actually start trusting myself with susp work you know?
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lfaf.... im new to this forum to.. and im in love with jeeps. i just recently just got the 87 jeep wrangler my grandfather had passed down to me and man do i love it.... its a 6. automatic. 4x4 works great instantly in.. but im thinking about puting a chevy 305 in would that be a good idea
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:17 AM   #14
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lots of guys do it, i would rather have a fuel inejcted 4.0 than a carbed 350 any day though.
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the 6 is the only way to go . the four doesnt have it . if its just for back and forth maybe , but not if u lift it and add more weight . the yj is easier to work with then the tj , leaf springs are way more easy to deal with, than coil over . but on the other side the yj is far more primitive than the tj. the heater is not as hot than the tj .
once u get a yj u need to put on a cold air . i love mine. it gives u that power that u need. i dusted my buddys tacoma off the line welcome to the forum. have ?s here is where to get answers u guys talkin mpg . remember that when u go bigger on tires that thros your odometer off , i have 32 on mine and im of by 5mph or more
Not to change the subject, okay first I'll respond in it. I find 91,92 for under 3k all the time. A 6 with over 150k still has tons of life left in it. Plus used engines are fairly inexpensive and easy to find. It worth the little bit of cash up front for the 6.
Now my speedo is off like 10mph (wich seems like a bunch for 31's) How do you figure out how much that throws off the odo? Not that I'm really that worried about it, I'm gunna drive her even if its only getin 5mpg....
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Ifaf, I have a 1994 with the 4 cylander. DON'T DO IT! The 4 in the TJ may have more guts but not the YJ. If I had it to do over, I would do without until I could afford the 6 cyl. I have larger tires without a lift and I can feel it, especially at freeway speeds. I like FI. Greener and more efficient. Also, for me, I want to drive my Jeep and not visa versa so a manual trans is a must. Jeeps are loud, cold, stiff and vibrate. I love it!
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cool cool. i was thinking also maybe a 6" lift with only 33's instead of 35's with a SYE and such on it obviously. and thanks for the info on the 4cyl i think ill hold out for the I6
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ok well after looking around some more what about a 4" SUA lift with a 2" BL with 33" tires. would i have to put on a SYE or would the T-Case drop kit be good enough for it? let me know guys! thanks
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i ran the drop case set up w/ 4" lift and 2" body lift on a four cyl.w/ 33"S and believe it or not it ran like a work horse. i liked the motor...got me out of tuff spots but not enough power to start breaking other stuff ...i.e axles, drvshafts, trans gears. BUT...with that said the ax-5 manual trans is one of the biggest turdz out there. way to weak, and with the lifts, and tires i only got about 9mpg out of it and had to keep the rpm's at like 3500 at 70 mph <this kills engines over time. i ran like this for 4 yrs and valve studs stretched out giving me alot of rattle, blew a water pump, and vibrated all my interior screws loose. way over revving< this spells disaster. i ended up having to put a 350 in it to save it, and the chvy conversion ended up being cheaper. also i will now be able to run a propane conversion once some bugs are worked out. srry im chatty (valumes...there fun) i say definatly go w/ the i6 mainly for the ax-15 <- its a swap acceptable mod trans. for when the i6 IMO gets boring.
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i ran the drop case set up w/ 4" lift and 2" body lift on a four cyl.w/ 33"S and believe it or not it ran like a work horse. i liked the motor...got me out of tuff spots but not enough power to start breaking other stuff ...i.e axles, drvshafts, trans gears. BUT...with that said the ax-5 manual trans is one of the biggest turdz out there. way to weak, and with the lifts, and tires i only got about 9mpg out of it and had to keep the rpm's at like 3500 at 70 mph <this kills engines over time. i ran like this for 4 yrs and valve studs stretched out giving me alot of rattle, blew a water pump, and vibrated all my interior screws loose. way over revving< this spells disaster. i ended up having to put a 350 in it to save it, and the chvy conversion ended up being cheaper. also i will now be able to run a propane conversion once some bugs are worked out. srry im chatty (valumes...there fun) i say definatly go w/ the i6 mainly for the ax-15 <- its a swap acceptable mod trans. for when the i6 IMO gets boring.
ok i see yea im going to get an I6 from what i have heard over the while here. since im sticking to 33's ill plan around that you know? like im thinking some 4:10 gears would be pretty good, what do you guys think?

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