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Old 01-10-2014, 06:29 PM
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new guy with some yj questions

hey everyone,
ive had my jeep now a little over a week and i have a few questions. a little bit about it first...i got a 94 with the 2.5 and the 5 spd manual. i had a lifted 2000 explorer limited that i loved but i felt like i was about to spend a bunch of money on it so i decided to get rid of it. i had someone offer me this jeep and i thought i could flip it and make some money. after 2 days of driving it around i fell in love and decided that it had to stay that being said, i know absolutely nothing about jeeps because i never intended on owning one. so on to some questions....

1. the jeep is currently running 32x11.5 bfg AT's and it rubs like crazy. it has 4 inch shackles center hole to center hole, but I'm not not sure how much lift that is because i don't know how big the stock ones were. how much more lift do i need just to keep from rubbing and how can i do it without spending several hundred bucks? i am off road every day but don't do any serious rock crawling or anything like that

2. my dad was driving it the other day and accidentally bumped the bottom of the clutch from the back side and knocked it completely loose. It was easy enough to reconnect it but is there any piece that is supposed to hold it in place to keep that from happening again? i pulled it off and it looks like there is a small metal ring and like someone has tried to silicone around the opening

3. I haven't crawled under it to get the gear ratios or the trans model yet because it as been raining and my garage has a ton of extra stuff in there right now so i can't put the jeep up yet. are there any known parts that i should stay away from or are known as "bad parts?" i want to redo a lot on this but i would like to do it right.

thanks everyone in advance!

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hey everyone, ive had my jeep now a little over a week and i have a few questions. a little bit about it first...i got a 94 with the 2.5 and the 5 spd manual. i had a lifted 2000 explorer limited that i loved but i felt like i was about to spend a bunch of money on it so i decided to get rid of it. i had someone offer me this jeep and i thought i could flip it and make some money. after 2 days of driving it around i fell in love and decided that it had to stay that being said, i know absolutely nothing about jeeps because i never intended on owning one. so on to some questions.... 1. the jeep is currently running 32x11.5 bfg AT's and it rubs like crazy. it has 4 inch shackles center hole to center hole, but I'm not not sure how much lift that is because i don't know how big the stock ones were. how much more lift do i need just to keep from rubbing and how can i do it without spending several hundred bucks? i am off road every day but don't do any serious rock crawling or anything like that 2. my dad was driving it the other day and accidentally bumped the bottom of the clutch from the back side and knocked it completely loose. It was easy enough to reconnect it but is there any piece that is supposed to hold it in place to keep that from happening again? i pulled it off and it looks like there is a small metal ring and like someone has tried to silicone around the opening 3. I haven't crawled under it to get the gear ratios or the trans model yet because it as been raining and my garage has a ton of extra stuff in there right now so i can't put the jeep up yet. are there any known parts that i should stay away from or are known as "bad parts?" i want to redo a lot on this but i would like to do it right. thanks everyone in advance!
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4" shackles are stock. AFAIK, 31's are the max size you can run without big rubbing issues. If the drive train is stock, the rear is most likely a 4:10, the trans an ax-5 (standard set up in a 2.5 manual). Not sure about the clutch or "bad" parts.

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i remembered one other...i believe that the hard full doors are from a cj7 and one of them rubs just a bit on the hard top. is there a way to adjust the mounting of the doors or do i just need to sand it down a little bit before i repaint the top?
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The doors can be adjusted at the hinge or on the door itself. Loosen the fasteners and close the door carefully wedge with some wooden wedges and then tighten the fasteners.

Your flares are self trimming as you have probably noticed. Ditch the shackles and get a lift 4" will get you 33s no issues.
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The doors can be adjusted at the hinge or on the door itself. Loosen the fasteners and close the door carefully wedge with some wooden wedges and then tighten the fasteners.

Your flares are self trimming as you have probably noticed. Ditch the shackles and get a lift 4" will get you 33s no issues.
awesome about the doors. ditch the shackles? i guess I'm gonna have to get some more info because i know absolutely nothing about lifts. does that mean if i lift it i take them out?
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awesome about the doors. ditch the shackles? i guess I'm gonna have to get some more info because i know absolutely nothing about lifts. does that mean if i lift it i take them out?
Stock shackles are 4". You have stock ones. No you do not ditch them. They are still needed with a lift.
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32's will fit on a 2.5 or 3.5" lift, depending on the amount of body trimming you want to do. I ran 33's on 3.5" lift with TJ flares (some body trimming required) with no body rub for a very long time. I lie, they rubbed, when i was in the twisty stuff in the rocks, I could stuff a tire into the top of the freaking fender when i wanted to. Bumpstops would have solved that.
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ok, that more like what i was thinking. thanks guys. anybody have any answers about the clutch pedal?
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Try this link for a diagram. Not sure which part you need. Sounds like the locking pin is not there.

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it doesn't come apart at the pedal. if you hit it from the back side it completely comes through the hole into the engine compartment
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i just got a 1990 YJ.. what size tires can i run without a lift kit?
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i just got a 1990 YJ.. what size tires can i run without a lift kit?
I'm wondering the same thing. I have 31's now with no lift. Wanting to go up to 33's with no lift--is that possible?
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i just got a 1990 YJ.. what size tires can i run without a lift kit?
31 is max no lift and they will rub a little you might be able to get 33s but you'd have to trim the body a lot
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33's will likely fit with some severe body triming.

30's are optimal, 31's are possible depending on width. Again, body trimming required, though not like you'd need for 33's.

TJ flares on a stock height would probably make 31's or 32's fit without a lift, or rubbing.
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I'm wondering the same thing. I have 31's now with no lift. Wanting to go up to 33's with no lift--is that possible?
i wouldn't unless you are willing to trim the body. i do light off road every day because i work on a farm and my 32s with no lift rub the fender flares so bad that the wheels are actually starting to "trim" away the plastic
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i wouldn't unless you are willing to trim the body. i do light off road every day because i work on a farm and my 32s with no lift rub the fender flares so bad that the wheels are actually starting to "trim" away the plastic
No lift on yours? Good to know. I have fender flares on mine too, so I don't want em to rub.
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i just found a set of new 3 inch lift springs on craigslist for a reasonable 200 bucks. if i bought those, what else would i need in order to install them? just new shocks?
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i just found a set of new 3 inch lift springs on craigslist for a reasonable 200 bucks. if i bought those, what else would i need in order to install them? just new shocks?
I believe so. And try to find someone who has done the lift before. They can be kind of tricky to get the right mounting if you've never done it before.
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i just found a set of new 3 inch lift springs on craigslist for a reasonable 200 bucks. if i bought those, what else would i need in order to install them? just new shocks?
I got a 4 and needed to do a t-case drop kit ect and a longer pitman arm. But you could be ok. I got it as a complete kit from skyjacker. You also might want to look into extended brake lines. It would royally suck to have one break on trail, or the road for that matter
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3" is about the limit of your stock brake lines. If you dont flex your suspension at all, you might be ok, but its a really good idea to do something about your brake lines.

Personally, i'd take the front lines, and move them to the bottom of the frame, and then get an extended rear.

You also need to consider your track bar's. Either take them off, or get relocation brackets for them. Whether or not to take them off has been discussed/flamed at length. Just know that there are benefits and consequences, and search for more info.

Sway bar links too. Either get disconnects that match the height you're moving to, or get extended solid links.

T-case drop, if its truly a 3" lift, you may or may not need one. I needed one at 3.5". I had one at 2.5" as well, but might have gotten away without it.

Shocks too, as mentioned, and steering. Drop pitman arm will do the trick.


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and all of that is what makes me think i will just get a kit rather than try to piece it together
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are there any advantages to doing a shackle lift in combination with a suspension lift as opposed to just a larger suspension lift?
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are there any advantages to doing a shackle lift in combination with a suspension lift as opposed to just a larger suspension lift?
shackle is fine but definitely don't go over 2" most go 1 1/4" or just get stock sized ones with graspable bolts about $50 on eBay
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and all of that is what makes me think i will just get a kit rather than try to piece it together
Ha! Sad thing is... A lot of kits don't address all of that. That list is pieced together from experience and years of answering this question. ;-)
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shackle is fine but definitely don't go over 2" most go 1 1/4" or just get stock sized ones with graspable bolts about $50 on eBay
i understand that, but for example whats the difference in say a three inch spring lift with a one inch shackle lift opposed to a four inch spring lift?
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Does your clutch peddle swing freely when it comes out and the push rod just hang off the peddle? I accidentally ripped mine out awhile back and there is a small retaining ring (looks sorta like a split washer) that sits in there to hold the rod in and then a plastic retaining collar over that assembly.

Congrats on the Jeep. The YJ's are great because they are really easy to work on and fix.

To run any tire bigger than a 30" you do need to take some action whether it's trimming or lifting. The biggest disadvantage to going only Shackle is your steering will go to shit. It gives a lot of sway. Generally the biggest you want to go is 1" of lift if that. A great cheap combo for you might be a 1" shackle lift and a 1.25" body lift would sport you fine with 31"s. You definitely don't want to go higher than that with a body lift without causing you shifter problems.

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Does your clutch peddle swing freely when it comes out and the push rod just hang off the peddle?
yes this is what happens, and it looks like rather than trying to replace it, the PO tried to put some type of putty or sealant around it

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