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Old 08-23-2019, 10:55 AM
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Hi all - I've searched and searched and can't find anything here about how to convert '89 YJ headlights to LED. Maybe I'm not using the right wording in the search engine. Any pointers? Or has anyone solved whether there is an inexpensive conversion kit that would fit an '89 YJ? (Autozone and several other shops say "There are plenty of $40 conversion kits on line but we don't sell them here"...

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You don't need a conversion kit, just buy 5x7 LED Head Lights and install them.
Plug and Play.

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Welcome to the Forum Oatmobile,

There's a reason that they don't sell the $40.00 LED headlights.

I suggest you go to a reputable online seller such as Quadratec or Morris 4X4 (vendors on this forum) and look at the selection that they offer.
The least expensive LED headlights that Quadratec offers are $300.00 closeouts.

If you live in an area that gets snow and sleet, be advised that LED headlights don't produce enough heat to prevent sleet and snow from building up on the lens and diminishing the ability of the headlight to safely illuminate the highway.
Heated LED headlights prevent this but cost more.

The biggest bang for your headlight dollar are H4 conversions. Along with the H4 conversion kit, you'll need an aftermarket headlight harness.
You can buy DOT (US approved) or E-Code (European approved) H4 conversions.
The DOT are legal for US use. The E-Code lights, not so much. The E-Code lights are reputed to give a better light pattern.
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Welcome to the Forum Oatmobile,

There's a reason that they don't sell the $40.00 LED headlights.

I suggest you go to a reputable online seller such as Quadratec or Morris 4X4 (vendors on this forum) and look at the selection that they offer.
The least expensive LED headlights that Quadratec offers are $300.00 closeouts.

If you live in an area that gets snow and sleet, be advised that LED headlights don't produce enough heat to prevent sleet and snow from building up on the lens and diminishing the ability of the headlight to safely illuminate the highway.
Heated LED headlights prevent this but cost more.

The biggest bang for your headlight dollar are H4 conversions. Along with the H4 conversion kit, you'll need an aftermarket headlight harness.
You can buy DOT (US approved) or E-Code (European approved) H4 conversions.
The DOT are legal for US use. The E-Code lights, not so much. The E-Code lights are reputed to give a better light pattern.
Agreed. I am an LED fan for all kinds of applications, as well as the more “modern” vehicles in my fleet, but I have run fluted lens Hella H4’s in virtually all of my restored or resto-mod vehicles since around 1980. Never a disappointment.
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I like the H4's ease of changeability, Not a fan of overly bright lights on the road, oncoming cars tick me off with them. Standard bulbs for street use, Superbrights for night runs, bulbs change in seconds.
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I love my plug and play LED Head Lights and the rest of the set up on the jeep.... No issues no lack of light at night...


The head lights I got on amazon.... had great reviews and are very bright!! Just added the 3" windshield mount LED's as well
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I have the Hella E codes with Hella 100/130 watt bulbs. On low beam, 100 watt, they are not offensive as one would think. The E code lens have a great light pattern and have a sharp cut off on low beam so that is probably why the are not obnoxious to on coming traffic.
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I have the Hella E codes with Hella 100/130 watt bulbs. On low beam, 100 watt, they are not offensive as one would think. The E code lens have a great light pattern and have a sharp cut off on low beam so that is probably why the are not obnoxious to on coming traffic.
I need to angle mine down some, they are bright even on low beam.... I thought of getting the ones you have.....

I also thought I was going to go with the same set up as SoCalCJ...... Like the old school look as well
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I have Hella E codes, you get what you pay for with chinese LED's
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I have Hella E codes, you get what you pay for with chinese LED's
That can be true for some and not true for others...... all depends on which ones you get, and part luck.... for me I have had great success with the ones I have.... had them on ATVs and other vehicles and many local friends as well..... but completely understand your statement....
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I tell you what, your right.... and if I decide to switch directions and change it up, I will go that route for sure....

Looks great!
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Another vote... I have hella e codes with phillips extreme 130 plus (legal wattage) in two jeeps and just about every jeeper that has ridden in one at night has gone out and bought the same... I have led's all over my vehicles but for headlights I wouldn't want them
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I’m still very happy with my Truck-Lites 3 years later, Drivetrain America has the best deal on them.

The only complaint I have ever had was in some situations with sticky snow the lenses get covered, however I tend to keep the Jeep tucked away in the garage for such times as salt is it’s worst enemy.

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Hi all - I've searched and searched and can't find anything here about how to convert '89 YJ headlights to LED. Maybe I'm not using the right wording in the search engine. Any pointers? Or has anyone solved whether there is an inexpensive conversion kit that would fit an '89 YJ? (Autozone and several other shops say "There are plenty of $40 conversion kits on line but we don't sell them here"...

Hey,

Welcome to the forum!

Here are the LED kits that we offer: https://www.quadratec.com/categories/lighting_lenses_bulbs/headlights/led-headlights

Just choose your Jeep from the drop down menu.

I recommend our projector LED lights:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/led-projector-beam-headlamps-jeep-cherokee-xj-wrangler-yj



If you are in an area with snow and sleet I would recommend the Heated version:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/heated-led-projector-beam-headlamps-jeep-cherokee-xj-wrangler-yj

There are also some Jw speaker LED headlights as well:

https://www.quadratec.com/products/97009_803X_PG.htm



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Not to dissuade you from the LED's if that's what you want, but I got to put in my vote for the Hella e-codes as well. And I'm still using the stock bulbs that came with them. I figured I'd get some use out of them before doing the upgrade to the upgrade.
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Subscribed.....Have never driven my jeep after dark, but if I ever do good info here.
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Subscribed.....Have never driven my jeep after dark, but if I ever do good info here.
Just to be a pain in the _ _ _ if you don't drive in the dark why did you put all those dang lights on it? LoL
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Just to be a pain in the _ _ _ if you don't drive in the dark why did you put all those dang lights on it? LoL
Came with it. I think one of them is burnt out.
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The first thing I did on both my Jeeps was removed all the PO's extra lights. Don't like them, don't need them. Can't use them legally on-road and wheeling at night they piss off the person in front of you.
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The biggest bang for your headlight dollar are H4 conversions. Along with the H4 conversion kit, you'll need an aftermarket headlight harness.
You can buy DOT (US approved) or E-Code (European approved) H4 conversions.
The DOT are legal for US use. The E-Code lights, not so much. The E-Code lights are reputed to give a better light pattern.
Don't the E-codes throw a different light pattern IIRC more to the left than right blinding oncoming traffic. That's why they are not USDOT approved.

If you live in a state that has inspections you may not pass without USDOT approved headlights or so I've been told.
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They had the 2 in front of the windshield off when they did the vinyl wrap. I did like the look with them off but the hole was already cut out for the wires so they made my decision for me.

I remember when I first bought this jeep, I noticed that the factory headlights are extremely dim and yellow. If someone were to daily drive one of these YJs they would definitely need to drive with the brights on or convert to the LED
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I remember when I first bought this jeep, I noticed that the factory headlights are extremely dim and yellow. If someone were to daily drive one of these YJs they would definitely need to drive with the brights on or convert to the LED
I have the standard throw-away halogen bulbs in my YJ they put out enough light for me and I'm an old man with bad eyesight.
You may have bad connections somewhere in the circuit.
I wouldn't do the LED's I would rather do the H4 conversion it's easier, cheaper, won't blind oncoming traffic and USDOT legal.
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Don't the E-codes throw a different light pattern IIRC more to the left than right blinding oncoming traffic. That's why they are not USDOT approved.

If you live in a state that has inspections you may not pass without USDOT approved headlights or so I've been told.
I've actually noticed the opposite. There is an angled flash of light on the right side.

Now if these were specced for England, then I'd suspect light to the left.
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Whether they were spec'd to throw the light left or right, couldn't you install them upside down to change the throw of light?
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Y'all are great - but I have to admit some of you have me confused. My takeaway is my best bet is Hella H4 lights that are DOT approved. Quadratec sales steered me to this one if you wouldn't mind commenting (I guess I'm a glutton for punishment
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Y'all are great - but I have to admit some of you have me confused. My takeaway is my best bet is Hella H4 lights that are DOT approved. Quadratec sales steered me to this one if you wouldn't mind commenting (I guess I'm a glutton for punishment
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You do know that's for one light? Shop around you may find a better deal on the same light
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Originally Posted by rushwal View Post
I've actually noticed the opposite. There is an angled flash of light on the right side.

Now if these were specced for England, then I'd suspect light to the left.
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Originally Posted by 12b View Post
Don't the E-codes throw a different light pattern IIRC more to the left than right blinding oncoming traffic. That's why they are not USDOT approved.

If you live in a state that has inspections you may not pass without USDOT approved headlights or so I've been told.
This is correct. I had them in my TJ and they were awesome, so good I convinced a friend to buy them for his. He went through a nightmare of a time because he got the UK spec ones that cast that same light to drivers instead of passengers side.

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