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Old 04-18-2015, 04:34 PM
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noob... any advice?

OK so I just recently purchased a 95 Rio grande and am looking for advice I want to lift it tires suspension upgrade the Axel rear differential... And for some reason the first owner tried to put bathtub caulk around the window and the engine compartment to stop a leak (didn't work) and just overall tips and tricks to fix and save money... Thanks.

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Being a rio grande, you have the four cylinder. If you start lifting it and putting big tires on it first thing, you will ruin it. Waste lots of time and money. And end up with a jeep you hate driving.

You want to save money?
Drive it for awhile stock.
Learn what it can and cant do. You will be a better offroader taking a stock four cylinder jeep to its limits. It require more thought, judgment and finesse. It will never be a monster truck, so dont try to make it one.

Eventually a 2.5" lift and some 29(235/75), 30×9.50, or 31×10.5" tires, max. It will be all the good things about a jeep without the bad stuff.

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Being a rio grande, you have the four cylinder. If you start lifting it and putting big tires on it first thing, you will ruin it. Waste lots of time and money. And end up with a jeep you hate driving.
Thats not always true. first off it is your jeep and your money, do whatever it is you want and will make you happy. That being said i have a 4.5 inch lift with 33in tires and the 4 banger and I absolutely love to drive it. I did re-gear it and i'm never going to win any races but i wouldn't change it for anything in the world. Before you decide make sure you do your research though. larger tires and more lift does mean more money and effort. but if properly done even with the 4 banger you can still enjoy your jeep.
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Thats not always true. first off it is your jeep and your money, do whatever it is you want and will make you happy. That being said i have a 4.5 inch lift with 33in tires and the 4 banger and I absolutely love to drive it. I did re-gear it and i'm never going to win any races but i wouldn't change it for anything in the world. Before you decide make sure you do your research though. larger tires and more lift does mean more money and effort. but if properly done even with the 4 banger you can still enjoy your jeep.
I have to agree, I got the 4" with 33's and 4 banger also and drive it everyday and prefer driving it over my grand Cherokee overland.
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I agree also. I have 32s on my 4 banger and with the stock 4.10, I also won't win any races. But it goes everywhere I've wanted it to or needed it too. I also use it as my daily driver putting 300+ miles on it a week going to work. And it's still uses less gas than my 2012 silverado.
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Thats not always true. first off it is your jeep and your money, do whatever it is you want and will make you happy. That being said i have a 4.5 inch lift with 33in tires and the 4 banger and I absolutely love to drive it. I did re-gear it and i'm never going to win any races but i wouldn't change it for anything in the world. Before you decide make sure you do your research though. larger tires and more lift does mean more money and effort. but if properly done even with the 4 banger you can still enjoy your jeep.
This is how im rolling on my yj but I have not regeared yet. Jeeps are slow in general but the combo of lift and tires on the 4 banger is doable. Not quite enjoyable but it does get me to work and back everyday and wheels fine every weekend.

I barely use 5th anymore unless the wind is on my side and even in 4th it struggles on inclines. I know even with a regear to 4.88 I still wont have a powerhouse but will I have the ability to pass someone safely and not have it pinned to the floor always? The highway is a pretty crappy drive as it is now.

And offroad i barely use 4 hi. The power just isnt there. 4 lo gets the job done but still isnt enough when im mid crawl on something extremely steep and trying to ease the clutch without rolling backwards..makes for some tire spinning. Id rather creep on up.
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I know money is super tight for all of us right now, but why not use the money you would investbin the Rio and shop around for a straight 6er and use the Rio as a cruiser. I bought my 94 straight 6 5 speed soft top off eBay motors for 4840.00 counting delivery, they are still out there. But as I said earlier money being what it is for most of us that might not be feasible, but you never know. The 2.5 isn't a bad engine by any stretch and with some creative thinking and wise use of fundages you could still make a very good ride out of it. Personally I would opt for the former. You could easily have a couple grand in upgrades alone and that would almost be half of what I got mine for.
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Thats not always true.

Before you decide make sure you do your research though. larger tires and more lift does mean more money and effort. but if properly done even with the 4 banger you can still enjoy your jeep.
Not always true, but more than likely.

Ive had two YJs with the 2.5. Biggest tires I've run were 31s, and I was unhappy enough with them to send them down the road. I told myself never again....4.0L only. Searched for a year before i could find one that was worthy and affordable. Still had to drive to California and pick it up. Phoenix has a shitload of jeeps for sale. Some even cheap. But only 1 in 1000 will be a nice unmolested 91+ 4.0L with AC. Nearly all the rest are built 2.5L on 33-35s.

People dont build jeeps to just sell them. You take a huge loss. These 4 cylinders turned out to be huge disappointments for their owners when they added the popular ingredients to turn their lemons into lemonade, and it still tasted like crap.

If you plan on having a big jeep, Save for a 4.0L. Its really the best way to go.

If you already have the small motor, keep your jeep as small as possible.
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Dude speaks the truth. I was very lucky I got mine out of Illinois from a private owner who needed to sell the yj I got so he could get more more money for the unlimited he wanted. Me myself I didn't want AC. but I beat the bushes HARD for close to a year and everything I found was 2.5. That was one thing I was not going to settle on. The others were it had to be a 5 speed and no AC.

I still say keep the one you got small and make a cruiser out of it.
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With lots of money and time you can build a monster 2.5. It's not going to be fast by any means and probably won't even be able to keep up with traffic like mine was. I had a 4banger pushing 44s and 12" suspension lift, 6 body, built and locked commanche axles, long travel suspension, etc. it had about 20 grand in it to be a rock crawler (I didn't build it, I traded for it to trade it for something I could sell for more cash). It could climb up walls but it was definitely not worth it and sucked on the road. Ive gone wheeling with plenty of 2.5s with 2 -2.5 lift and 30-31s they all did fine for just getting off the pavement to have some fun.
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I got the same year, model, and edition as you several weeks ago, and mine is completly stock down to the tires. I was going to dump some cash into 30" tires, until I raised I was out of money. So I decided to take it down to the local river, the Rio Grande(yes, I live 5 mins from there!). I went down several trails only four wheelers can go on, with no trouble. I would have questioned taking an LJ on those trails, and absolutely would have dumped the truck at home and just walked down the trails. See what your rio can do stock, then add as you need to. I believe, in the end, that it will make you a better jeeper.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:17 PM
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I appreciate all you responses I really enjoy your responses and these are all things to consider but I'm not going to build a wall climber and not going to build a racer either. I just want something I can play with, with out getting permanently stuck or breaking things. I'm thinking about going with 19"ers and lifting any where from 2-4 max I'd like a snorkel but it is still a small engine so I was hoping for something to boost my HP a Lil to help make up the difference but any who those are my first thoughts for her and I'll have to talk to you all later thanks again for your responses. It would be greatly appreciated if you could share your experience on Anny of these topics

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