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Old 03-19-2006, 08:12 PM
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pulling carrier in dana 30

im fixing to pull the carrier out to lincoln lock my 30 and was curious of a couple things.

1. do i need a case spreader? on my dana 44 i got it out woithout but have been told on the 60s you must have one

2. does anyone know the torque specs on the bearing caps for when i re-install?

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im fixing to pull the carrier out to lincoln lock my 30 and was curious of a couple things.

1. do i need a case spreader? on my dana 44 i got it out woithout but have been told on the 60s you must have one

2. does anyone know the torque specs on the bearing caps for when i re-install?
You really want to weld the front?

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yup

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im gonna home-made posilock the CAD so itll be a low budget selectable. if it's too horrible, ill just toss the spiders and drop is a lunch box locker later.
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Cool, sounds like fun.

It's 6 of one half dozen of the other if you need/want a case spreader on the 30. Some do some don't.

The bearing caps need to be torqued down between 35-50 lbs., but I've always put them at 50. Also make sure you don't mix up the sides with the caps.
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Old 03-21-2006, 08:51 AM
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sweet. thanks. i'm hoping to pull the carrier tonight, but i odnt have my airtools at my place so im worried about getting the axle shaft nut off......we shall see. i know on my dodge that sumbitch was TIGHT. thanks for the info
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A good size slid hammer can also do it - just be sure you 'think' about where you put the hook (and make sure you put something between it and the carrier steel as not to damage the material). On the lunchbox installs I've had to do they all required the carrier to be 'impacted' out with a slide hammer - works like a charm.
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:48 AM
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well....i got all the way to the carrier last night but it was late and couldnt finagle it out so i decided to wait till i was fresh.

to get off the unit bearings, i learned a cool trick over on dieseltruckresource.com. anyone thats had to pull their bearing knows its seized on there like a mofo if it hasnt been off in a while. i know on my old dodge i spent forever pounding on it with a air chisel when i re-geared. anyway, the method that i read about (and worked FANTASTICALLY) was to loosen the axle nut and all three hub bearing bolts. i backed out the hub bearing bolts maybe a half inch. then, i took a deep socket and (with someones help and the jeep running) turned the wheel so that the deep socket was wedged betewwen the loosened hub bearing bolt and the axle tube. then just kinda bumped the wheel a few times (had to rev it alittle) on the forward and rear bolts. basically, it uses your power steering pump as a hydraulic press. i wish i had discovered this way back when....

axle shafts are pulled but i could only get the carrier partially out (not coming out straight) so i called it a night since i had to work today. tonight if i can get back out there im gonna do the rag between the pinion method and see if that pulls it out. if not, im gona go buy some bigger prybars......
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almost back together

well, i got the carrier out by putting a wrench on one of the ring gear bolts and then turning the pinion unitl it spit the carrier almost out. i got the spiders welded up saturday evening and put it back in last night. all thats left is to put the brakes back on and tires, and re-adjust my home-made posi-lock. also, while i was under there, i pulled off the front trackbar/panhard bar and removed my long-disconnected front sway bar. tonight i plan to finihs up the front end, test it out and start getting it ready to travel. im gonna pull out the back seat and strap in an ammo can for tools (for this weekend). also this week i need to weld on some tow hooks (since theyre required for this run and i never got around to putting them on ) so....its almost done, hopefully ill have some real world results in the rocks after this weekend and then more to tell after the beach run next weekend
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preliminary results

sure.....ill keep replying to myself
i went out to the proving grounds yesterday to do one last test before this weekend's run. after a quick detour toi the garage to recrimp the end on my DIY posi-lock i went out again and am VERY happy. found a ledge with a little mud at the bottom and tried to climb in 4-low-unlocked and had no joy. locked up the front and climbed it without ever spinning a tire! very happy. also, kinda got the feel for how to smoothly engage and diengage the CAD to lock it up. also, i pulled the front trackbar off and WHOA!! <h1> FLEX!!!!</h1> im gonna need longer brake lines because these are maxed out. on the road feel was a little vague in the steering but not bad overall. definetly liveable.....
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Sounds like it is working for you. That is great!!!!!!! If I can caution you on one thing, it would be to not spin your front wheels when they are off the ground. In other words, pop a wheelie (while spinning your tires) and come back down to the ground. It will pop anything from your spiders, to your t-case. I got to watch a guy do that last weekend. What a mess. It took the whole next day to replace the inner workings of his t-case. Wish you a bunch of fun on your next run. You should have a blast.
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yikes! yeah, good thinking, i can see how itd definetly wreak some havoc from the jarring of the driveline. just while i was testing i had it locked up on a dirt road but not really muddy or overly loose and when you even thought about turning it would start bogging the engine LOL. BUT...my hope is i can leave it unlocked in all but the worst of terrain, then lock it up to get through and unlock again. from all ive read the dana 30 isnt a particualry weak axle so im hoping to not be constantly breaking stuff. im not the type to just hammer the hell out of it because i dont have enough time or money to be constatntly rebuilding the real test will be this weekend....of which, i particualry dont wanna break anything becasue i wanna take it to the coast nex t weekend
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Glad everything is working as planned. I was just looking at my trac bar yesterday and thinking I should rip it off. Now that you say it helped your flexing I will have to do that. Did you just pull the front or both?
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pulling the rear got me quite a bit but pulling both got me more. im gonna end up needing longer brake lines or at least relocating them. heres some shots on the ramp
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