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Old 08-21-2010, 11:32 AM
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hey i have a 95 4.0L with 31" i think its stock, and im thinking about getting a rough country 2.5 suspension lift, will i need a transfer case drop and have to extend brake lines, and wat else might i have to do. Also should i keep the 31"s or can i get something bigger. Or is there a better lift i should get, but im on a tight budget. So lets here your opinions.

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get the 4 its the same cost as the 2.5 lift is

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Agreed, get the 4" lift. I have that with 31s and I feel that it looks great. With the 4" lift, the kit comes with a transfer case drop bracket and brake line extensions. I would recommend replacing the leaf spring mounting bolts also and if budget permits, spend the extra for the extended brake lines they offer. Don't worry about going for the nitrogen gas shocks, stick with the hydraulic ones that are basic. I started with the gas shocks and the ride was a bit rough. I think the gas shocks are designed for a heavier vehicle and our Jeeps are relatively lightweight.

I am attaching a couple pics of my Jeep with the RC 4" and 31s for you to get an idea of what to expect.







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The 4" lift will be borderline for needing a SYE. If your on a budget and don't plan on running larger tires then stay with the 2.5. If you plan on 33's then you will need the 4". A 2.5" lift with a 1" body lift will let you run 32's with very little rubbing.
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well this is my daily driver for now so im not sure if i wanna do a 4" but it does look pretty good, but i do mostly on road with like weekends off road so i think to 2.5" might be a little better for me, and i dont plan on getting bigger tires and regearing. so do all i need to order with the package is the kit with extra leaf spring hardware, or should i still get the transfer case drop and brake extensions
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The kit comes complete from what I remember. I would still spring for the new leaf spring bolts. It is cheap insurance on a ciritical part that is already 15 years old. Good luck with the kit, the instructions are very complete and easy to follow.

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I have the 4 inch lift. Couldn't be happier. Everything is included in the kit: tcase drop kit, brake line extenders, dropped pitman. Like others have said I would spring for the new bolt hardware. I went with the nitro shocks and the ride is pretty rough. Good luck.

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This is a good thread for me to read; I know at some point I'd like to get mine lifted up, possibly larger tires but maybe not. I also have a '95, 31" tires but my engine is 2.5 4 cyl (this means pretty much nothing to me other than it's different than the OP) If, down the road, I were considering the same as mod that this post is about (either 2.5" most likely 4") does my engine make a difference here? If so, can someone give me a dumbed down explanation and feel free to link to or explain in more detail so that maybe I'll get it even more. thanks. I'm trying to learn a lot from the forums so that in the future when the play cash is in hand, I have the knowledge and background to be able to select specific mods for my ride.
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This is a good thread for me to read; I know at some point I'd like to get mine lifted up, possibly larger tires but maybe not. I also have a '95, 31" tires but my engine is 2.5 4 cyl (this means pretty much nothing to me other than it's different than the OP) If, down the road, I were considering the same as mod that this post is about (either 2.5" most likely 4") does my engine make a difference here? If so, can someone give me a dumbed down explanation and feel free to link to or explain in more detail so that maybe I'll get it even more. thanks. I'm trying to learn a lot from the forums so that in the future when the play cash is in hand, I have the knowledge and background to be able to select specific mods for my ride.
The lift has no effect on the motor, and vice versa. What does effect the engine power would be bigger tires. I have the same Jeep as you, 95 Rio Grande. I have the 4 cylinder with a stock drivetrain still and with 31's the vehicle still moves pretty well. I probably could push 32's with my jeep with the 4.10 gears it has in there now. To go any bigger, you probably would have to regear to a 4.56 or 4.88 gearing. Some guys seem to think if they mod the engine for more power they don't have to regear, that usually ends up costing even more money and the gains are very minimal on the 4 cylinder.

Cliff notes: Lift doesn't effect engine, to run bigger tires you need to go with a higher gearing.
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Awesome, RSC, great explanation. I even understood it fully without the cliff notes, hehe, but thanks! Seeing the pics above of Jeeps running 31s with 4" lifts pretty much has me sold and knowing that I wouldn't have to regear is a plus. Yay for a lesson today!
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Awesome, RSC, great explanation. I even understood it fully without the cliff notes, hehe, but thanks! Seeing the pics above of Jeeps running 31s with 4" lifts pretty much has me sold and knowing that I wouldn't have to regear is a plus. Yay for a lesson today!
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i'm not 100% sure about the YJ application but i used the rough country 4" on my XJ and it came complete with extended brake lines and transfer case relocation and i did not do a SYE


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I haven't done the SYE either and I'm fine. I used the relocation brackets for the stock brake lines and just bent those to extend them a bit. I'm going up another inch though with lift shackles so I hope I have enough slack still when that happens.

That XJ looks spot on!
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To be honest i always wanted an xj at one point i was thinking of trading my yj for one
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driving my YJ makes me appreciate my XJ even more
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The problem with me trading my yj for one is that its my first car and jeep and i just couldnt let the title out of my grip
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i recommend having both. the YJ is a blast with the top and doors off but the XJ is a better daily driver with an auto and ice cold a/c. not to mention the XJ runs circles around the YJ so it's fun to drive in it's own right
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andreafahy and rsc17 I have the same jeep as well and moved up to 33x10.50 and only noticed a small difference with starting off but the gas mileage shows...11 highway
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I got the 4" RC lift and a 1" lift shackle with 33's. No SYE and I'm happy so far. Here's few pics



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what extra work would be required to do the 4 inch rc lift compared to the 2.5
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The 4" kit comes with everything. T case drop bracket, drop pitman arem, brake line brackets, track bar bracket (Don't even put them on and take the track bars right off).
With the 2.5" you don't need the drop pitman arm, the t-case drop bracket, or the brakeline relocate brackets.
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The 4" kit comes with everything. T case drop bracket, drop pitman arem, brake line brackets, track bar bracket (Don't even put them on and take the track bars right off).
With the 2.5" you don't need the drop pitman arm, the t-case drop bracket, or the brakeline relocate brackets.
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Hey it got better! I ran a injector cleaner thru it and get around 13 now!!! Bottom line man you are gonna want more if you get the 2.5...once you start adding to a jeep it just gets addicting and you cant stop!
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how old are the plug wires? mine were oem and had 137,000 miles on them. the jeep was slow and lagged in the low rpm's, plus i was getting horrible mpg's. changed to a new set of bosch wires and it's back to normal. i'd say you might want to give them a try. the bosch ones were $25 at autozone up here in cleveland.
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I changed them around 8000 miles ago so I dont think it is that. What is normal for mpg?
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Normal GPM (Gallons per Mile) in my 4.2L 258 is about 5. That's what I think of your 11-13mpg.

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