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Old 07-11-2015, 04:33 PM
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Standard to auto conversion?

I'm thinking about switching my jeep from manual to automatic because I'm trying to learn standard but it's just not working out for me and I'd rather not sell my jeep I love it too much. What are the pros and cons of switching it and how hard would it be to do the switch

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Ok if I can teach my wife to drive a stick at 40 years old you can learn how to drive stick. I just think your losing a lot of what a wrangler is when you change it to an auto. Wtf are you going to do with your left foot? Lol. But if you insist you can just swap it out for an auto with a ton of work from a compatible auto out of same size engine you have. Seems easier just to have "the right person" teach you the finesse of a manual transmission. Not to mention it just makes driving a wrangler that much more enjoyable knowing your average hood rat can't steal it because they can't drive it.

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Keep trying. If you completely destroy your clutch or transmission than you can re-think it. But until then don't give up.
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I agree. Why go through the trouble of doing the swap, spending tons of money and/or time (not accounting for all the frustration) when you can just spend a little more time and get used to driving it. Not trying to be funny but my 9 year old girl took 30 min to get used to shifting gears up to 3rd. I have no doubt you can do it!
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I taught my kids to drive clutch using 4L. Little sammy we kept at our hunting camp. (cant do this on pavement) Got them use to the clutch easier without stalling. They were ten at the time and they got the hang of it quickly.
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I taught my kids to drive clutch using 4L. (cant do this on pavement) Got them use to the clutch easier without stalling. They were ten at the time and they got the hang of it quickly.
my daughter is 11 and I plan on teaching her very soon how to drive a clutch, teach them young is my theory

To the OP don't give up, it's not worth everything you will have to do to swap to auto. Get on some back roads with some small hills and keep at it. You can learn. Once you get it you will laugh at yourself for thinking it was so hard. It's all in the feathering of the clutch is what I tell my wife. When you got it you should be able to keep your jeep in one spot on a hill and never touch your brake
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I agree that it is fun as heck to drive stick, especially in a Jeep. I have, however, swapped an automatic into a manual International Scout, which is easier than swapping a manual into an automatic vehicle. If you really want an auto I would suggest trading your manual Jeep for an automatic Jeep though. Seems simpler and my guess is that it will be less expensive.
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Just the average jeep girl doesn't sound that average to me! lol, just teasing. What's the issue your having with learning stick? Is it skipping gears, or just the pressure point on the clutch? Don't give up. It can only get easier!
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I put a automatic in the jeep I bought for the wife. She had a 5 speed car for years that she loved but she wanted an automatic in the jeep. I must say that I love driving the jeep just put it in gear and go. I think you should learn to drive a manual vehicle just for your own benefit but it doesn't have to be your vehicle. I say if you want an automatic get a automatic but at least learn to drive a manual. Just my opinion
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Switching is more complicated than you would think, and very expensive if you have to pay someone to do it. If you're having a hard time learning to drive the manual transmission, maybe you're thinking too hard about it and making yourself nervous, or maybe you haven't given it enough time. It really does take practice, and if you get nervous driving in traffic, practice somewhere where there aren't any other cars to worry about. I taught my daughter to drive at a school parking lot on weekends when it was empty. She practiced stopping on a hill using a friend's sloped driveway when there was nobody behind her to make her nervous. If you love your jeep too much to sell it, my advice is to learn how to drive it, it will give you a sense of accomplishment and make you love it even more. With time, clutching will become so automatic that you will find your left foot hitting the brake pedal when you drive a car with an automatic trans.
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Switching is more complicated than you would think, and very expensive if you have to pay someone to do it. If you're having a hard time learning to drive the manual transmission, maybe you're thinking too hard about it and making yourself nervous, or maybe you haven't given it enough time. It really does take practice, and if you get nervous driving in traffic, practice somewhere where there aren't any other cars to worry about. I taught my daughter to drive at a school parking lot on weekends when it was empty. She practiced stopping on a hill using a friend's sloped driveway when there was nobody behind her to make her nervous. If you love your jeep too much to sell it, my advice is to learn how to drive it, it will give you a sense of accomplishment and make you love it even more. With time, clutching will become so automatic that you will find your left foot hitting the brake pedal when you drive a car with an automatic trans.
very well put!! Heed this advise
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Thanks everyone, honestly I've been trying so hard and I don't want to give up but my dad sucks at teaching me and won't let me drive with anyone else and I still have 9 months before my novice license and I don't want my jeep just sitting there rusting until then
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just be patient with yourself.... ride the clutch.. I have NEVER heard of anyone burning up a clutch while learning...

get into a parking lot of a store when they are closed... no other cars in the lot... limit yourself to 15 mph... no faster... start off in second gear, straight line... and no gas...

just let the foot off the brake and then ease off on the clutch until the jeep starts to roll and let it just keep on rolling, no gas... just idle in second gear... then depress the clutch and let the jeep roll, then apply the brake, and come to a stop, then REPEAT...

do that a few time.. then go to third gear.. same thing... just try to let the clutch out until the jeep tries to roll... nice and easy..

you may or not be able to keep the jeep running.. but that is the point.. let it die... no problem... let it coast to a stop, let the steering get hard when the engine dies, etc.

no biggie... just repeat a few time...

then go to first gear.. and same thing.. NO GAS... just let the clutch out easy... until the jeep starts rolling, in idle speed... and then after it is rolling, depress the clutch, let the jeep roll, then brake, REPEAT...

then go back to 2 gear.. and again, let the clutch out and get the jeep rolling, and this time while it is rolling, in SECOND gear, apply some GAS.. nice and easy.. then after a while, depress the clutch, letting her coast/roll, then stop.

after about 2-3 tries in each of those steps.. then try to switch gears from 2 to 3...

aftter about 15 minutes of these little baby steps, you will be so bored and think things are so easy you will WANT to move on and go faster.


go ahead.. you will have gotten over any issues you had before about being nervous or afraid of damaging the clutch or jeep...

it's a jeep. it can take it...
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Listening to your engine is another big part that I'm not sure anybody mentioned. If you can stand to turn your steroid off for an hour or even everytime your at a stop light or sign and just listen you the way your engine sounds. It shouldnt be dipping when you let the clutch out, it should stay constant or even gain RPMs. My instructor told me to keep the RPMs about 500 above where the normal idle is when letting the clutch out. My dad told me to floor the gas if I needed to, just don't let it die. And eventually you will get use to listening to your engine, even when your stereo is on or your friends are talking.
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Listening to your engine is another big part that I'm not sure anybody mentioned. If you can stand to turn your steroid off for an hour or even everytime your at a stop light or sign and just listen you the way your engine sounds. It shouldnt be dipping when you let the clutch out, it should stay constant or even gain RPMs. My instructor told me to keep the RPMs about 500 above where the normal idle is when letting the clutch out. My dad told me to floor the gas if I needed to, just don't let it die. And eventually you will get use to listening to your engine, even when your stereo is on or your friends are talking.
Ha ha, who can hear their radio in a YJ? Maybe when you're stopped at a light, lol. My radio's main function is a clock, even with a sound bar I can barely hear it, even with the top up and windows on the half-doors. But then again, it's a relatively cheap radio, something no one would be tempted to rip my top to get to.
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Ha ha, who can hear their radio in a YJ? Maybe when you're stopped at a light, lol. My radio's main function is a clock, even with a sound bar I can barely hear it, even with the top up and windows on the half-doors. But then again, it's a relatively cheap radio, something no one would be tempted to rip my top to get to.
Ha, I never thought about soft tops. I've been rockin' that hardtop full door combo all summer long in the now very humid NM desert with pants and boots. Today when I got home I thought I had wet my pants and didn't realize it, turned out to just be sweat
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Thanks everyone, honestly I've been trying so hard and I don't want to give up but my dad sucks at teaching me and won't let me drive with anyone else and I still have 9 months before my novice license and I don't want my jeep just sitting there rusting until then
You would be better off to try it by yourself. It's a lot harder to learn with someone shouting, "CLUTCH CLUTCH CLUTCH GAS BRAKE! at you. You understand the basic concept. Drive around your neighborhood alone and I bet you get the hang of it quickly.
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Thanks everyone, honestly I've been trying so hard and I don't want to give up but my dad sucks at teaching me and won't let me drive with anyone else and I still have 9 months before my novice license and I don't want my jeep just sitting there rusting until then
You would be better off to try it by yourself. It's a lot harder to learn with someone shouting, "CLUTCH CLUTCH CLUTCH GAS BRAKE! at you. You understand the basic concept. Drive around your neighborhood alone and I bet you get the hang of it quickly.
that's exactly what I need but where I live we have a licensing program where right now I have my learners meaning I can't drive alone until my novice which I get next April so I can't do that
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Tell your parents you need them to take you driving, but you don't want help. That's what I did until I got my provisional(novice) and after I was on my own I got ten times better.
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Tell your parents you need them to take you driving, but you don't want help. That's what I did until I got my provisional(novice) and after I was on my own I got ten times better.
and what parent is not going to "help" besides yours I guess?!?! My dad would have been screaming at the top of his lungs had I not learned how to drive a stick when I was 10 by my neighbor/farmer
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and what parent is not going to "help" besides yours I guess?!?! My dad would have been screaming at the top of his lungs had I not learned how to drive a stick when I was 10 by my neighbor/farmer
A pretty good one. You never told a parent that you wanted to try something on your own?
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and what parent is not going to "help" besides yours I guess?!?! My dad would have been screaming at the top of his lungs had I not learned how to drive a stick when I was 10 by my neighbor/farmer
A pretty good one. You never told a parent that you wanted to try something on your own?
I've tried that but I'm a "scary driver because you're over confident" when driving an automatic and "you can't learn on your own you don't know what you're doing" I understand how it works and the motions involved i just can't do it with people screaming GAS CLUTCH BRAKE GAS
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Tune them out. And don't apologize for when you screw up. I taught my girlfriend to drive my Saturn Vue (she needed it the next day for a week, and I was going on leave.) It took an hour to teach her how to do it. She stalled it a few times. Made it bunny hop a few more. Damn near tore the thing apart in reverse. She never pulled her foot off the accelerator when shifting, so you could hear the poor little 4 cylinder shoot to 4krpms and chug back down. But none of that bothered me, a clutch is cheap to replace if she burns it up, and the tranny can take the quick beating here and there. What did annoy the ever living piss out of me was her saying 'I'm sorry' every time it wasn't perfect. When we teach, we know you're not going to do it well, so don't apologize. Pay attention to what you did, make the mental correction, then make the physical correction.

All in all, pretty simple.
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A pretty good one. You never told a parent that you wanted to try something on your own?
maybe I put that the wrong way lol, or maybe you misunderstood that. I did not mean a parent should not help, I taught my wife of 40 years old and she was never able to learn because everyone always yelled at her. I absolutely agree that you should be taught not yelled at. I just ment unfortunately most parents are not going to just sit there and let you learn. Apologies for the misunderstanding on that
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Tune them out. And don't apologize for when you screw up. I taught my girlfriend to drive my Saturn Vue (she needed it the next day for a week, and I was going on leave.) It took an hour to teach her how to do it. She stalled it a few times. Made it bunny hop a few more. Damn near tore the thing apart in reverse. She never pulled her foot off the accelerator when shifting, so you could hear the poor little 4 cylinder shoot to 4krpms and chug back down. But none of that bothered me, a clutch is cheap to replace if she burns it up, and the tranny can take the quick beating here and there. What did annoy the ever living piss out of me was her saying 'I'm sorry' every time it wasn't perfect. When we teach, we know you're not going to do it well, so don't apologize. Pay attention to what you did, make the mental correction, then make the physical correction. All in all, pretty simple.
amen, I went through that exact same thing, I had to teach my wife to drive the Subaru and as painful as it was to hear her whine that engine it was more painful hearing sorry every 15 seconds lol
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Just for the record. .an automatic swap in a Yj isn't really a big deal...
I'm not saying it's as easy as boiling water..I'm just saying it not a huge and complicated job
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First, there's nothing wrong with an auto in a Wrangler. I searched for an 6 cyl\auto for months, before buying mine.

Second, you'd be better of learning to drive a manual than do a conversion. It's something everyone should know and may come in handy some day.

Third, you still have 9 months. You can learn anything in 9 months.

I learned by DD'ing on backroads for my cousin when I was younger (I cannot stress how much that I do not recommend learning this way). I taught my younger brother by having him drive on a gravel road and having him take off without spinning the wheels.

Keep at it and you'll get it.
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I've tried that but I'm a "scary driver because you're over confident" when driving an automatic and "you can't learn on your own you don't know what you're doing" I understand how it works and the motions involved i just can't do it with people screaming GAS CLUTCH BRAKE GAS
Just tell that to them.
@mijeeper80 if your kid asked you to just let them try and learn it on their own, you wouldn't give them a chance? Maybe I misunderstood your point.
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maybe I put that the wrong way lol, or maybe you misunderstood that. I did not mean a parent should not help, I taught my wife of 40 years old and she was never able to learn because everyone always yelled at her. I absolutely agree that you should be taught not yelled at. I just ment unfortunately most parents are not going to just sit there and let you learn. Apologies for the misunderstanding on that
No worries. I kept re-reading the posts figuring I had missed something also.
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Let me give you some more encouragement on learning a manual. I got my permit in February and my intermediate license in March. I drove the entirety of the hours I needed to complete in an auto JKU. The last weekend before I got my intermediate license, my dad taught me to drive his manual TJ. I now drive that thing almost every day. Driving a manual is so much more enjoyable when you get the hang of it. I almost crashed into someone when I drove the automatic because I couldn't find the clutch when I tried to stop at a light and froze up. You will get the hang of it. Just keep trying because an auto just isn't as fun.

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