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Old 07-06-2015, 01:36 AM
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Things to consider before buying a YJ?

Anyone have any Jeep general or YJ specific things that need to be considered before buying a YJ?

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Old 07-06-2015, 01:40 AM   #2
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Just kidding... frame rust is the cancer which will kill any YJ. I really miss my '87. Take a ball peen hammer to the rear frame. Tap the shackle mounts and rear bumper, trailer hitch mount areas. A dull thud? walk... run. A ping with a bounce back... keep going. It might be a rare YJ with a solid frame.

If you find frame rust and body rust... expect to spend $5K easy to correct it and drive it for another 20 years.

Beyond frame rust? Everything else is easily fixed. If the frame is solid... it is just another used car.
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X2 on what billybob said about rust. next would be do you want fuel injection or carb, the older yj's have a very complicated emissions system with many parts no longer available, the 91+ are more modern with FI.
and the biggest thing to consider is your mech. skills, can you do your own repairs or do you need a shop? the newest yj is 20 years old, it will need repairs. with shops charging 50-100+ hr (depending on area) keeping an old jeep running gets expensive fast.
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X2 on what billybob said about rust. next would be do you want fuel injection or carb, the older yj's have a very complicated emissions system with many parts no longer available, the 91+ are more modern with FI.
and the biggest thing to consider is your mech. skills, can you do your own repairs or do you need a shop? the newest yj is 20 years old, it will need repairs. with shops charging 50-100+ hr (depending on area) keeping an old jeep running gets expensive fast.
Every thing Rob said is true, I see your in Cali., If I had to drive the Free-Way or in the Mountains I would never buy a 4 Cyl. jeep, it's not a small car that give good MPG, or even to power to weight of a small car, the 6 CYL. get the same MPG and can get out of it own way, on the Hwy the 4CLY. is in the way of every body, off Road there great, no better than a 6CYL. because there even better. I know a lot of hate will come my way but I did live in Chula Vista years ago, and had hell in a 1973 Mach1.
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I'm considering a 91 for my daughter. Besides rust and no external slave cylinder (95 and up if I recall), anything specific to look for?

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I'm considering a 91 for my daughter. Besides rust and no external slave cylinder (95 and up if I recall), anything specific to look for?

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I rank the YJ as great off roader, maybe daily driver for me but for my kids... I'd buy something newer. There have been so many safety improvements. I'd prefer my kids to get the benefits of at least the airbag technology.
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The 94's have external slaves too. I have a 94 and have replaced the slave and master. Twice. Plastic crap.

The 95's supposedly have superior rustproofing, but to call any Jeep rust "proof" is like calling a politician "honest".
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once again rust. I was burned on my first jeep, spend like 4k may be more to fix all rust.
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Just kidding... frame rust is the cancer which will kill any YJ. I really miss my '87. Take a ball peen hammer to the rear frame. Tap the shackle mounts and rear bumper, trailer hitch mount areas. A dull thud? walk... run. A ping with a bounce back... keep going. It might be a rare YJ with a solid frame.

If you find frame rust and body rust... expect to spend $5K easy to correct it and drive it for another 20 years.

Beyond frame rust? Everything else is easily fixed. If the frame is solid... it is just another used car.
Spot on. I'm spending close to 6 to fix my frame. 1995 sahara with 130,xxx. Couldn't pass it up.
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If I had to drive the Free-Way or in the Mountains I would never buy a 4 Cyl. jeep, it's not a small car that give good MPG, or even to power to weight of a small car, the 6 CYL. get the same MPG and can get out of it own way, on the Hwy the 4CLY. is in the way of every body, off Road there great, no better than a 6CYL. because there even better.
your 6 cyl. gets 18MPG with 31" A/Ts on stock suspension? Because that's what I get in my 4 banger(woohoo!!!). Granted I wish it could get up a little faster, I do spend most of my time in the fast lane for my 45 minute commute to school/work daily. I even hit 80 last week. I'm not saying all four bangers are going to perform at this level, I'm just saying there are a few of those engines powered by FOUR angry squirrels that are still angry and kickin'.

Ok, rant over. I agree with all the chat about rust, these are good people, they'll set you straight and you'll know when you find your jeep(that's what YJ stands for)
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Contrary to popular belief the 4 bangers don't get any better gas mileage
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So if yj stands for your jeep than what does jk stand for?! Just kidding??

Sorry, I had to say it!
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Actually, it's a German acronym, "Jawohl, Kaputt"



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My general pros and cons of owning a '93 YJ...

Cons:
1. Death wobble
2. You will have some type of part go bad every so often.
3. The ride quality is the same as a stage coach from the wild west.
4. No power on the highways/freeways.
5. Soft tops and zippered window's suck imo. They're sometimes flimsy and have poor visibility. I never understood the windows folding inward onto you.
6. Rusty bolts.
7. Little interior lighting (stock) at night unless you have a sound bar w/dome light or a hard top w/dome light.
8. Having the power steering pump double as the drive belt tensioner sucks.
9. The internal clutch slave cylinder on the earlier YJ's is not fun to have.
10. I've ripped 3 pairs of jean belt loops that got caught on the door striker bolt.

Pros:
1. You can drive anywhere...almost.
2. You can park in the worst spots and not worry about getting dinged by other car doors, because...Wrangler...'nuff said.
3. 87 octane is cheap.
3. Insurance is cheap.
4. Parts are relatively cheap.
5. My kid loves our Wrangler.
6. Speed bumps become fun bumps.
7. You can do a lot of repairs yourself if you can turn a wrench.
8. It's hot out? Take the doors and top off. It's cold out? Put the doors and top back on. This logic works most of the time.
9. Needs to only be washed once a month lol.
10. It can be a very care free, liberating vehicle to drive at times.
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Death wobble is a TJ thing, unless your talking about mud tires
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death wobble can show up anywhere
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heres some death wobble... 2 wheel kind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzB6KSlD6ec
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9. Needs to only be washed once a month lol.
10. It can be a very care free, liberating vehicle to drive at times.
I figure that is about one time too many. But, I did wash the PO's dirt out of it when I got it. That was plenty of water wasting for me. Although I do rinse the frame off after the winter salt. "Clean enough", I always say!
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Look for a jeep from the southwest, no rust problems. 95 is the best year YJ. Get the 4.0, 5speed or Auto, your choice.
I've had mine since I bought it new in 92. After 214,000 miles on the same motor it still goes off road at least once a month, normally pretty extreme stuff.
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heres some death wobble... 2 wheel kind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzB6KSlD6ec
Zoiks!!! I didn't even know that could happen in front leaf sprung vehicles!

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