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Old 01-05-2020, 03:04 AM
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Third Brake Light

Has anyone added a third brake light to their YJ?

I know it's a not a YJ thing, but I like the looks of the brake light wheel rings for the spare. The only problem is I'm not finding any that look like they'll fit inside my 15" steel wheels. Measuring my wheel D openings, the lights need to be at 10" to show clearly through the wheel.

I figure once I wire up for a trailer, I can plug into the wheel light when not towing

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My yj has one from the factory

Your trailer wiring won't work for a 3rd brake light.... that needs to come from the brake switch under the dash or in the steering column.

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Yup... I have one laying out in the junk pile needs to go to the landfill with the rest of the crap out there. Not an item that sells quickly, nobody wants them.

Gofast... Why couldn't it plug into the trailer harness seems plausible??? Never tried it my self because that isn't something I'm into.


Rushwal... Check your tailgate for two electrical contact points that would be on the right side near the hinges. If you have those then it was wired for a 3rd brake light.
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Because the trailer harness doesn't have a wire for a brake light..... it has two wires for turn signal lights that also function as brake lights...
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Because the trailer harness doesn't have a wire for a brake light..... it has two wires for turn signal lights that also function as brake lights...
Yeah your right... had to look at a wiring diagram
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Mine wasn't originally wired for a third brake light.

I wonder if I could wire it up like a trailer light though... Left half blinks when the left turn signal is on etc.

Of course, it's all moot if I can't find one that fits.
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Just run a new wire from the front
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I think the third brake light became mandatory in 1986 and all YJ's had the third brake light. Usually when people put bigger tires on they just remove them because they hit the tire. I threw mine away years ago and i wish i hadn't because now people are looking for them because they do not make reproductions. This YJ is a 1987



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I think the third brake light became mandatory in 1986 and all YJ's had the third brake light. Usually when people put bigger tires on they just remove them because they hit the tire. I threw mine away years ago and i wish i hadn't because now people are looking for them because they do not make reproductions. This YJ is a 1987




Yeah, I was curious as well given the fed requirement since 1986.
I have yet to see a YJ in the wild with a third tail light.

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Cars were required in 86, light trucks in 94. So, it depends on what a Jeep legally is. Maybe it was an option prior to 94.
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Yeah, I was curious as well given the fed requirement since 1986.
I have yet to see a YJ in the wild with a third tail light.

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Cars were required in 86, light trucks in 94. So, it depends on what a Jeep legally is. Maybe it was an option prior to 94.
You beat me to it. A Jeep is a 1/4 ton light truck.
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You beat me to it. A Jeep is a 1/4 ton light truck.

I was wondering if it was a car only law. I dont have any experience on early YJ's but all of the 1991-1995's i have ever worked on had a third brake light. I was unsure if the early YJ's had it because i know they had a different swing out tire stop thing than later YJ's. Later YJ's had 2 electrical contacts that would touch when the tail gate is closed while later YJ's had some weird metal bar that i think was some kind of tire stop.

I tried to find AMC/Chrysler photos from 1987 that would show if they had a third brake light but the above picture i the only one i could find. There is a picture of the electrical hook up for it that was ran though some plastic wire loom directly into the tailgate not 2 contacts like later YJ's.

There was no clean way of mounting a third brake light on the 1986 CJ7 so i doubt they ever had one.
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Sorry Guys, but I'm a little lost on the need for a third Brake Light when you have a perfectly good Third Bumper
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I don't see the need of a third brake light on any vehicle... Two isn't enough? If folks can't see two a third isn't going to help at all.
Heck back in the early days of automobiles there where no brake lights or on some models just one.
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I don't see the need of a third brake light on any vehicle... Two isn't enough? If folks can't see two a third isn't going to help at all.
Heck back in the early days of automobiles there where no brake lights or on some models just one.
The point is you can see the third brake light through windows of the vehicle in front of you when the tail lights are obscured by the vehicle it's self. They do help and i always see the third brake light of the vehicle on front of the vehicle in front of me before the vehicle in front of me brakes. They do work well but i dont have one anymore because i have no where to mount one. And my tail lights are taller then car tail lights anyways so they are somewhat more visible to cars further back anyways.
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The point is you can see the third brake light through windows of the vehicle in front of you when the tail lights are obscured by the vehicle it's self. They do help and i always see the third brake light of the vehicle on front of the vehicle in front of me before the vehicle in front of me brakes. They do work well but i dont have one anymore because i have no where to mount one. And my tail lights are taller then car tail lights anyways so they are somewhat more visible to cars further back anyways.
I've never had a problem getting the "Big Picture" while driving by looking way ahead of and to the sides of what's directly in front of me. So many motorists don't maintain their 3rd brake lights to the point that they don't work anymore anyway.
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There is probably not a need for one on the YJ's, I just like the look of the in the wheel 3rd brake light.

And I have the metal bar thingy that's a tail gate stop, but I don't have the cover for it.
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Cars were required in 86, light trucks in 94. So, it depends on what a Jeep legally is. Maybe it was an option prior to 94.
My stock '89 has been in the family since new and did not come with a third brake light. I added one for safety.
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The third light didn't come on YJs until the 1994 model year. Wasn't an option before. Any you see with a third older than 94 were done by an owner.

The 'family' roll bars were used in 92 when the rear seats were required to have shoulder seat belts. Third light in 94 per law.

Similar to why there weren't any domestic 96 Wranglers made since they required airbags.
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I don't see the need of a third brake light on any vehicle... Two isn't enough? If folks can't see two a third isn't going to help at all.
Heck back in the early days of automobiles there where no brake lights or on some models just one.
NASCAR lacks brake lights. Works for them...

Since American laws don't require an amber turn signal, the brake/blinker is used. If a bulb is out, you can get situations where there are no braking indicators if the only working bulb is in flashing mode. At least the third light gives a chance that you'll still see a brake light while turning.

I wish the amber blinker was the rule stateside rather than the flashing brake light.

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I was stopped in my f150 the girl behind was also stopped, then promptly hit me.I ask why she hit me? she said I thought the light changed(she was five or six cars back from the light ) third brake light didn't help a bit. cost her $800.00 bucks
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I made a spare tire 3rd brake light insert in spring of '17. I wanted to have the lights centered in my wheel holes and could not find anything to please me.

Piece of sheet metal and 10 - 3/4" led marker lights. Spent more time doing layout than anything else.
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Anyone used one of these behind the spare tire lights? after almost being rear ended by a soccer mom in a suburban using her cell phone, i light something a bit brighter. I dont mind if it looks a little loud when activated. I dont want to find out how my YJ stands up to being plowed into by a 3 ton hunk of metal.
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Anyone used one of these behind the spare tire lights? after almost being rear ended by a soccer mom in a suburban using her cell phone, i light something a bit brighter. I dont mind if it looks a little loud when activated. I dont want to find out how my YJ stands up to being plowed into by a 3 ton hunk of metal.
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We have a few people running that Rugged ridge 3rd brake light ring. It is bright! I recommend that for your YJ!

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Hey there,

We have a few people running that Rugged ridge 3rd brake light ring. It is bright! I recommend that for your YJ!

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I want one where the lights are at @10" diameter, and fits inside a 15" wheel. Got one like that?
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I don't see the need of a third brake light on any vehicle... Two isn't enough? If folks can't see two a third isn't going to help at all.
Heck back in the early days of automobiles there where no brake lights or on some models just one.
A while back, I was having some rear lighting issues. At one point I wasn't getting a turn signal/brake light on the driver's side. If I turned right, and put on the brakes, there was no light up indication that I was braking. A third brake light would have helped in that situation.
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I want one where the lights are at @10" diameter, and fits inside a 15" wheel. Got one like that?

Unfortunately we do not have a 10" diameter ring I do apologize. The Rugged Ridge brake light ring is 12" in diameter if you want to measure to see where they would be on the wheel.

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