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Old 11-03-2017, 06:03 PM
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Thoughts on a body lift without suspension upgrade

Got a 1994 yj that I'm wanting to put a 3"-4" lift and put 33" on. It was brought to my attention that this could be cost effective by using spacers and/or body lift? As you can I don't know anything about lifts. Only 4 wheeling I'll be doing in snow on the roads and basically doing it for looks.

Any thoughts?

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Old 11-03-2017, 08:08 PM   #2
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First of all you should never go over a 3" body lift and i don't think anyone sells a 4". Second body lifts look like crap so if your doing it for looks you might want to have your eyes checked. And even if a 3" body lift did look good 99% chance your body mount bolts are rusted solid and you will never get them out without cutting holes in the body and putting new nuts in and welding it all back up.

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Old 11-03-2017, 09:23 PM   #3
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I did a 2" lift to accommodate 31s and I regret it. I should have gone with a 1" BL so that I wouldn't have had to grind away the rear of my shifter opening as much. Even with grinding the rear of my shifter housing, I have to hold my shifter in reverse while backing up.
Another issue is with a 2" (or greater) you have to extend your fuel filler hoses. Brake lines are OK.

My tub and frame are pretty much rust free and I still broke a body bolt while removing them to install the kit. Needed cutting and welding.

I went with 31s because I already had a pair and only had to buy two tires to match. I have aftermarket steel wheels with 4" backspace and 6" flares that I expect won't rub if I cut 1" off the body lift pucks.

The body lift and no suspension lift works for how I use my Jeep. mostly as a daily driver and some easy trails and forest service roads. I figured no suspension lift would save a bunch of headaches.

I strongly advise against a 3" lift or taller.
2" is generally considered the max for a safe body lift. Any taller and you risk your tub shifting because of the longer bolts.

33s and a tall body lift will show you up as a poser to a real Jeeper. Be ready to endure chuckles or more.

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Old 11-03-2017, 10:12 PM   #4
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A 1 inch body lift will not look like crap at all. It’ll be just subtle enough to make your jeep look a little taller but not too much, while allowing you to use larger tires. Anything over 1 inch will be dangerous on a road vehicle and probably look a little less cool. For me the biggest benefit of a 1 inch body lift is the ability to work underneath the jeep a little easier. Some recent work on my gas tank was made much easier because of my lift.


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I don't love my 3" body lift om my tj but it came on it and I haven't gotten around to changing it up yet....
Of course you have a yj but the look will be similar..... it absolutely is not dangerous and gets the job done if you can tolerate the look....

A better plan tho since you are talking budget is to forget the 33's since regearing is quite pricey.... consider a 1" body lift and 30's

Here's my tj w 33 10.50's and a 3" bl and my yj w 33 10.50's and 4.5" sl
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Thanks for insight guys. First time jeep owner and was going off of some recommended advice from guys at work
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Since you seem to have a budget in mind, here's an economical way to get a nice look without spending a ton of dough.

1- 30" tires shouldn't rub even without a body or spring lift. 30" tires will be cheaper than 31s or larger tires and you'll still be able to use 5th gear (mostly). Plus, they'll still look better than the stock tires.
I have 31s with a 6cyl. & stock gearing and I rarely use 5th gear and acceleration through the gears suffers. Eventually, I'll re-gear to 4:10 gears.

2- If you have a few extra bucks, Quadratec has Pro-Comp "D" window wheels on sale @ $50.00 ea. You'll want the 8" wide wheels with (3 3/4" - 4") back spacing.
15" with 5 on 4 1/2 bolt pattern.

When you make any changes to a stock vehicle, you change the relationship of how everything works together. By installing larger tires, you change the final gearing and that affects performance. A slightly larger tire makes a slight difference and the larger the tire, the greater it affects useable power. Re-gearing can cure this, but re-gearing is expensive.

I suggest that before you change anything, you drive the Jeep for a while and make it as bulletproof reliable as you can. While you're planning your mods, you can be saving up for them.
If you need tires right away for a daily driver and you want an aggressive look, then you might consider an AT tire.

What I found when I went shopping for tires for my truck was that Discount Tire would match any other tire stores price. I found the best price for the tires that I wanted at Costco. Rather than drive back to Discount, I said "OK, lets make the deal". When I went to pay, Costco wouldn't take my Master Card credit card. They'll take Master Card debit card but not M/C credit cards. I didn't have $800.00 in my checking account at that time so I couldn't use my M/C debit card. I went back to Discount Tire and they matched the Costco price and took my M/C credit card. Costco was $200.00 cheaper than Discount Tire for the same tires, so it's good to shop around. Since they were good to their word about matching other tire store prices, I can recommend them.
Another thing I found was that Les Schaub has the very best customer service. Unfortunately, they don't sell the brand of tire I wanted.

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Leaf spring shackles about 10 inches long will work! Just kidding If you like a big gap between the body and frame go for it! Shows the jeeps good looking frame better
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I'm not a huge fan of my body lift. It was installed by PO. It was done right, but I'm still not a huge fan. Someone also put 33" tires on there with no change to gearing. The tires look good, the overall stance of the Jeep looks good, but it's not very driveable in its current condition for anything over about 50 mph. We mostly just drive it around town for now.

I'm in the process now of making some other changes relating to reliability and driveability (exhaust, steering, Ujoints, etc... normal stuff that's been neglected). But likely before Christmas I'll be putting new gears in; it'll cost me a little over a grand to do primarily because I'm not willing to take on the task myself (I know a lot about my Jeep, but gears make me uncomfortable).

I would echo what others have said. If you're going to go with a body lift, don't go more than 1". If you need more lift than that, go with a good quality suspension lift. If you don't need larger than 30" tires, don't install them (I'm only keeping mine because I already have them and DW likes them). The overall useability of the Jeep will be much easier to maintain if you keep the tires under 30".

Bottom line, think more about how you actually want to USE the Jeep and less about how you want it to look. It can certainly be made to look cool AND be useful for what you need.

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