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Old 12-14-2008, 03:05 PM
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Whats a good lift?

Whats a body lift?
What is a suspension lift?
Which is used for what?
Which would be the best for, lets say 70% on road and 30% off road?

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Whats a body lift?
What is a suspension lift?
Which is used for what?
Which would be the best for, lets say 70% on road and 30% off road?
A body lift raises the body and can allow for larger tires but raises the body higher from the frame and IMHO is the wrong way to lift a jeep it will raise your COG (center of gravity) at the body only and tends to induce body roll into situations when you are climbing obstacles.

A suspension lift uses new springs to raise the vehicle getting more distance between the frame and the axles this will raise your COG (center of gravity) as most of your jeeps weight is above the frame however it is a better way to achieve lift IMHO.

This all depends on your driving style really, a suspension lift is more expensive than a body lift but has more advantage of control and longevity, however if your jeep is just a mall crawler/show queen then there is no reason a body lift wouldn't be acceptable.


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Old 12-14-2008, 04:19 PM
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thanks, what about in terms of inches?
A suspension lift would allow bigger tires without rubbing?
You wouldnt need a body lift as well?
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A good 4" suspension lift will allow you to run 33's without rubbing in flexing situations. No body lift required.
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thanks, what about in terms of inches?
A suspension lift would allow bigger tires without rubbing?
You wouldnt need a body lift as well?
You first need to decide what you want your jeep to be able to do and then how you want to build it. A 33" tire might not rub the inner wheel wells at flex but depending on the width of the tire and the offset of the rim you might rub at full lock when turning.

What might be helpful is for you to tell us what kind of wheeling the 30% will be and then how your daily driving style is, do you like to imitate a ferrari? do you drive alot of miles to work or shool, can you give up a bit of comfort for performance and last but certainly not least what is you rfinancial situation? Lifting a jeep or modifying it always leads to more mods and more money. What is your mechanical skill level? Are you going to be paying someone else to do the mods, this effects what you can afford to do when.
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Since I am in Florida, offroading would be the beach, mud, sand dunes and large puddles haha. Now that I think about it I hope to be doing a bit more offroading. When we test drove a jeep with big swamp tires(no lift btw and i think it had 33 or 35 inch tires) it made for a loud rough ride and made the engine trouble sound worse. I can't imagine going 60 miles an hour to school(12 miles) or 70 on I95 I would loose control. So radial tires it would be. As for driving style I do the speed limit but for imitating a ferrari I would just drive my moms mustang if I was going for speed
As soon as I get a car I am getting a job being that football season is over, we lost in the third round of the playoffs 13-1. All money from the job would be for fun. Mechanically I am a newb. never worked on cars only know how to jump start the battery. I'd like to learn how to do most of this myself but thats another thread, this is all hypothetical I appreciate the info though.
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I am assuming that you are lifting a YJ since we are in that forum , so I think a 3.5 BDS softride suspension would be a good starter for you. Your jeep will already do alot without any lift if you gave it a chance .

Jeeps are very capable vehicles in stock form and light wheeling is no problem right off the lot. Remember that most jeeps start needing some work to be done to the steering components at or around 4" of lift so unless you want to mess with that area you should stay below that number. If you buy a lift package that requires a drop pit man arm, (read the components to find this out) it means you are messing with the steering geometry and all drop pit mans will reduce your turning radius somewhat.

The BDS softride is a good suspension, skyjacker will beat you to death, and beyond that I would go with Rubicon Express as my lift of choice. Remember that your rear axle (if it is the stock D35) is not very appreciative of tires larger than 33" and using your skinny pedal wisely will make it last. If you are buying wheels make sure you test the back spacing so that you don't get the tire too close to the frame as this will rub and also loose turning radius on your rig.

Generally speaking if you have limited knowledge of the jeep, buy a complete bolt on kit and then try to install it yourself you will learn more this way. PB blaster is your friend, use it generously and things will be easier. I get a lot of jeeps at my place because people either get a bit ahead of themselves and/or want more than their knowledge and skill can handle. I am not saying that is a bad thing, just trying to say know your limitations. A poorly installed lift will ruin your fun in the jeep as fast as anything and will also take a toll on your wallet.

Also don't take anyone's word as gospel, even mine . Google is your friend and their is an abundance of info on the net, gather several opinions and then apply them as your situation dictates and you should be fine.
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I am assuming that you are lifting a YJ since we are in that forum , so I think a 3.5 BDS softride suspension would be a good starter for you. Your jeep will already do alot without any lift if you gave it a chance .

Jeeps are very capable vehicles in stock form and light wheeling is no problem right off the lot.
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You might be in Florida but alot of clubs do out of state trips to some good rock crawling spots. It all depends on how bad you get bit by this insanity. My rig was stock when I got it almost 4 years ago now and thought I would be content with playing in the mud puddles. NOT!!! Now running sprung over setup, different axles, transmission, snorkel, winch and still my daily driver. You might find more challenges than you expect in this state also. The BFG M/T KM's seem to hold up good for pavement and offroad use.

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