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Old 07-08-2012, 08:30 PM
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What's it worth?

Hey everybody! Aspiring to be a YJ owner here. I've previously owned 2 XJs and have the opportunity to buy an 87 YJ. I'm coming over from cherokeeforum.com 93xjgreenmonster is my username. I looked through the usual stickies and searched the site to get an idea what I'm looking for before posting. Anyway, long story short:

My uncle had a stroke about 6 years ago so his Jeep has sat since. He owns a 87 YJ that just before the stroke had a chevy v8 350ci engine put in. I don't know if the transmission and transfer case were changed in the upgrade. It has a 4-6" lift and 33" wheels. the paint is a bit faded and the soft top is in pretty decent shape. It has a top end alarm. A couple years ago they were asking ridiculous numbers, like around 15k. Now they seem to be alright with book value, however it's hard to determine what it's worth with all the upgrades. KBB doesn't list online model years before 1992, NADA put a stock 6 cylinder in showroom shape at 6k. My question is, if you had to put a range on it, what would you think it's worth?

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there are a lot of factors involved in making that assumption.

mileage? condition of the body and the frame? was the stock rear replaced since the stock dana35 wont even think about handling the torque from a SB350.
I have an 87 with a 6cyl in it, and in this area(PA) i can get 3-4000 for it as it sits right now. But its got a new motor, 8" of lift and 35" tires on it as well as a million other upgrades.

one way of doing it is to take the KBB price of a 92 in the same shape as that one and subtract 500 per year X 5 yrs older or 2500 off of the listed price.

I would bet that the trans and t-case are not original to the jeep either.

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there are a lot of factors involved in making that assumption.

mileage? condition of the body and the frame? was the stock rear replaced since the stock dana35 wont even think about handling the torque from a SB350.

I have an 87 with a 6cyl in it, and in this area(PA) i can get 3-4000 for it as it sits right now. But its got a new motor, 8" of lift and 35" tires on it as well as a million other upgrades.

one way of doing it is to take the KBB price of a 92 in the same shape as that one and subtract 500 per year X 5 yrs older or 2500 off of the listed price.

I would bet that the trans and t-case are not original to the jeep either.
-----I've been told that it is a new engine. My plan is to have him by the jeep and to ask questions that will be yes or no answers. His speech is impaired. Frame and body is probably in the 200k+ range. I live in Colorado, rust is usually not an issue, and if it is, it's going to be the body first.

He didn't do the work himself, so I'm going to assume at the moment that a professional told him all that had to be done. At the time the dude was loaded and I think that's why they were asking 15k a couple years ago. I'm interested to know what the rear axel is.

-----I love the rig, it's actually how I got interested in trailing and Jeeps. This was the toy that got me interested, 20 years ago. It is literally the machine that started it all.

-----I like the formula, but considering the amount of money the guy put into it, I don't want to low ball him. My aunt is the one doing the business and life is hard right now for them with the medical and all. I'm going to ask them their price, but after thinking it over all night, 6k is the highest I go, maybe I can get it at 5k.

-----I won't have to sink a lot of money in this thing, it's built, it's done. Obviously it's original incarnation with just a lift and tires that he did early on when I rode along was what made me say this is what I want, and then years later he adds the V8, holy shiz. Never rode in it with the V8, but I can't imagine.
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so it's in my driveway. I'm currently test driving it over the weekend. The rear axle was replaced according to my cousin. He wasn't aware of any change to the transmission or transfer case and I was able to confirm the transfer case is a np231. I'm going to study how to figure out what transmission it is. I don't think it's an AX-15, just didn't look familiar to what I had in the 93 cherokee. But it's been awhile. I would not be stoked to find that the clutch slave cylinder is in the bell housing, I did that twice on the 93 and it was awesome learning the first time, a friggin nightmare the second time.

I'm going to take it down for emissions tomorrow. Things I want to try to identify is:

- the engine model and year, all I know is a carborated chevy 350
- the model of the rear and front axles.
- the transmission model.

Any tips would be appreciated. By the way the odometer reads about 89,000. I'll try to get some pics up.
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would love to see pix if you could post them up....

im wanting to replace my 2.5 with a v8 ,,,how does the one your driving run ??
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would love to see pix if you could post them up....

im wanting to replace my 2.5 with a v8 ,,,how does the one your driving run ??
I like it. I can see myself going through a lot of gas and tires if I don't baby it. Just for chits I peeled the tires in third. 1st gear is damn near useless, this thing is torqued. I'll get pics up tomorrow. Too late and I'm reading everything I can.
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FWIW KBB doesnt apply to YJ's....there are so many factors as to what its worth its not even worth wasting the time to get a book value.
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The date code for the motor is on the passenger side deck in the front, forward of the cylinder head. You can find the casting number on the rear of the block above where the trans bolts to. Your best bet would be to post some pics of the trans and axles. I'm sure we could ID them for you. And welcome to WF! I'm on CF as well, my sn is emptypockets. Hope you get the YJ!
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The date code for the motor is on the passenger side deck in the front, forward of the cylinder head. You can find the casting number on the rear of the block above where the trans bolts to. Your best bet would be to post some pics of the trans and axles. I'm sure we could ID them for you. And welcome to WF! I'm on CF as well, my sn is emptypockets. Hope you get the YJ!
Cool, thanks, I'll look at that in a bit and post.
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that looks like its a throttle body fuel injection motor from the late 80s to mid 90s.
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i forgot to write what i was going to write when i saw the pics.

i am on cherokee forum too, superj. i had an 87 with a 5.5" lift and some 31" duratracs.

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I wouldn't... You are going to inherit every single issue that is already present with the Jeep, whether or not the issues are present at the time of purchase or not.
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I wouldn't... You are going to inherit every single issue that is already present with the Jeep, whether or not the issues are present at the time of purchase or not.


Well obviously.... As with any used car you buy...

To the po, looks like it's been sitting for awhile! That's one of the worst things for a Car in my book. 14,000 is WAY WAY more
Than I'd ever even think of paying for that. But I'd think in the 5000 dollar range would be a fair price. I probably wouldn't pay more than 4500 but that's just me personally. If the engine sounds alright, runs good, suspension feels and looks alright, tranny shifts good, rust is minimal ( check rear frame rails, frame rails on both sides where tranny crossmember mounts, body mount locations, and front of motor mount areas), and then you can judge the body and smaller things such as brakes, lights, interior,
Stuff like that. If the major things sound feel and look okay then I'd say for 5 your in good shape. The thing with chevy 350's is that there are just soooo many of them, they are so cheap and easy to find. Which wOuld be a good tool in negotiating the price and also for you if you ever need engine parts, soo cheap and easy.
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The trans looks like an AX15 with a bellhousing adapter. Hard to say what the axle is though. Can you get a pic of the cover?
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Well obviously.... As with any used car you buy...
Well no kidding. A stock Jeep that hasn't really been messed with would be a better buy, because it's entirely stock. Nothing has been modified, which makes it easier to identify what has been done. Something that's had a V8 dropped into it is bound to have some issues, anything that isn't stock always has issues, not to mention you really don't know what has been done to it. We don't even know what kind of transmission it has...

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