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Old 07-01-2015, 09:50 PM
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Winch size?

I have a YJ that I'm redoing. It's a 6 cylinder 4 inch lift with 33s. What size winch do I need?

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1.5 x the vehicle gross weight.

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I have about the same thing as you and I went with a 9000lb. Works just fine. You don't need more than that unless you just want it.

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9,000# winch

I just bought one at Harbor Freight. $239.00. Badlands brand. I know nothing about winches, but a lot about getting stuck! Anyone know anything about this brand of winch? Waiting for my new bumper to come in on Friday to put it on. Anyone give me an opinion before I open this box this weekend?
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I have a Smitty 8,000lb. I don't think they offer that capacity anymore. I think the equivalent one now is 9,000. It's a good size to be at. There are smaller capacity winches that would be enough to handle a YJ, but the cost savings isn't a lot.

I think the harbor freight special for a 12k is 299 right now. Overkill for a Wrangler, but as said, it's about what you want I guess. I've used my winch for pulling out other vehicles more than I've used it for myself.
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I just bought one at Harbor Freight. $239.00. Badlands brand. I know nothing about winches, but a lot about getting stuck! Anyone know anything about this brand of winch? Waiting for my new bumper to come in on Friday to put it on. Anyone give me an opinion before I open this box this weekend?
Yep, I run the 9000# and its great. HF winches are hit or miss, you only get 90 day warranty, so get it on and use it a bunch. They either work great or fail quickly. I use mine almost daily, been good for almost a year.

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Yep, I run the 9000# and its great. HF winches are hit or miss, you only get 90 day warranty, so get it on and use it a bunch. They either work great or fail quickly. I use mine almost daily, been good for almost a year.

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I have also heard that about the newer ones... My Dad bought a 8 or 9k before they were even "Badlands" brand and put it on his car trailer. Its been working good for years.

Does HF offer an extended warranty on them for a few bucks? Probably would be a good investment if they do. If they don't, Visa will sell you one, but I've never tried it.

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I have also heard that about the newer ones... My Dad bought a 8 or 9k before they were even "Badlands" brand and put it on his car trailer. Its been working good for years.

Does HF offer an extended warranty on them for a few bucks? Probably would be a good investment if they do. If they don't, Visa will sell you one, but I've never tried it.

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You can always double up your pulling power by using snatch block pully too
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So, my Harbor Freight Winch (which was EASY to install on my new Rock Crawler front bumper) is on and working great! Owners manual talks about using an "anchor point" and NOT a recovery strap for hooking onto objects. What is the difference?

And the two year insurance policy from HF was $69.00. I did not opt for it as the which went on sale on July 4th (including my Inside Track Club membership) for $199.00 Didn't seem like the economical thing to do!
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Finally got to put my 9500# Q winch to a test. We spent 8 hours going 35 miles doing the Gold Mountain/John Bull loop (you can see it on YouTube). I never needed it myself ( go YJ's) but had to pull several JK's over the rocks, and the JKU is one heavy jeep!
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Finally got to put my 9500# Q winch to a test. We spent 8 hours going 35 miles doing the Gold Mountain/John Bull loop (you can see it on YouTube). I never needed it myself ( go YJ's) but had to pull several JK's over the rocks, and the JKU is one heavy jeep!
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I got a HF 12,000 about 3 years ago for $299+ tax, best money I ever spent. I berried my Ram 2500 4X4 Cumins in a Deep Rut back in the Swamp, after spending the Night in the Swamp, my Wife got worried about our Labs and came looking for them and me in the YJ. I was about 20 mile in when she found me in the middle of the road Stuck. pulled the YJ up to a power poll an ran a line and snatch block to the Big truck, after pulling the poll over 6" in the ground we moved over to a tree, front bumper of YJ to tree and dual lines to the Ram 2500 we got it out! The 12,000 is slow, but strong, slower with dual lines, but I use it almost weekly and it's been Great. They still go on sale fore $299. and I got just one for my new to me 06 Ram 3500, now need a new bumper, long story, but it is Great. IMO
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Well, another consideration with cheap winches like the HF models is the duty cycle. You can download the manuals before you buy and figure this out. With a larger winch, operated at a smaller fraction of its capacity, one ought to be able to spend more time winching and less time waiting for it it cool.

Of course, the other side of that is how many amps does it pull and will you need to upgrade your battery(ies)
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Never had to let my badlands 9000# cool down, never had it even get very hot. I pull full size trucks buried to the frame rails on the beach on a regular basis. Single line pull, hook up my cable to there tow hook, back up abt 30 ft, lock winch, dig in the YJ in reverse till I bury it to the pumpkins. Then I use the winch to drag them out the holes till there on top of the sand. Lil HF winch doesnt even break a sweat. I can see where out in the woods on some technical pulls where you could prob have some problems, but just not in my average winching situations.
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I have a warn vr8000 synthetic...it's their entry level winch, but it works very well.
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Really? Y'all trust horror freight winches? Sweet! That saved me about $300!
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I just bought one at Harbor Freight. $239.00. Badlands brand. I know nothing about winches, but a lot about getting stuck! Anyone know anything about this brand of winch? Waiting for my new bumper to come in on Friday to put it on. Anyone give me an opinion before I open this box this weekend?
Bumper on. Winch installed and wired. New driving lights. Winch and lights from Harbor Freight.
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The owners manual that came with my 9,000# Badlands suggest ALWAYS using the double point method. Otherwise it says only run the winch at full capacity 45 seconds out of every 15 minutes.

So, what is the difference between an ANCHOR point strap and a recovery strap?
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A recovery strap will stretch. The anchor point strap will give you a "solid" point to pull on.

If you are pulling someone out using the vehicle, a recovery strap will allow you to get a running start.
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I have a dumb question:

Can one have a winch on an '88 YJ if one already has a Western 6'6", hydraulic angle plow (frame) attached, full-time?

If not, what do people who need to plow but want a winch, do?

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