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Old 04-27-2019, 04:51 AM
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Looking to pick up a late model YJ and I found a fairly OK 95 for sale locally. It's a 2.5 with 140k on it. Some body work was done so the paint doesn't match in one or two spots, but I"m not looking for any sort of show vehicle, just one to drive. Frame has been repaired in spots and it looks pretty well done. Looks like a valve cover gasket is needed, but it fired right up and sounded ok. Fluids looked good and interior was clean.


The issues I'm curious about is there was a pretty nice little pool of water on the passenger side floor. Is there a known spot for these to leak on that side? It looks like a small drain hole was drilled into the floor to deal with it, it was just in the wrong spot .



The other issue is the shifter felt pretty sloppy, not tight when going through the gears at all. I am assuming it's the shifter bushing. Vids online make it look fairly simple, just curious if it's as easy (relatively) as it looks.



There was a slight crunch going into reverse the one time I shifted, but it may have been me not being used the clutch. I'd have to drive it again to see if it shifts ok.



If the price is right, I may make a move. Any other advise on what to look for would be appreciated.

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apparently I need to ask how to spell advice also. Derp. I'm going for more coffee
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Leak is probably due to the cowl seal or in some occasions the cowl body seam right before it

The crunch you heard is due to reverse not being synchronized, pump the clutch or drive forward slightly to eliminate this problem.
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Why do you want a jeep with frame repairs, possible transmission problems, and a 2.5?

Frame...
Transmission...
Engine...

It has a nice stereo?
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Why do you want a jeep with frame repairs, possible transmission problems, and a 2.5?

Frame...
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Engine...

It has a nice stereo?
^ this x2. Unless you're getting it for less than 2k
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Is it water or coolant on the passenger floor board? And if their way of fixing a leak was to drill a hole so it would drain, you know they probably half assed other maintenance as well.
If you buy it plan on wrenching on it off and on (more on) for the next year or so as problems pop up and fixing things that weren't fixed right to begin with..
Unless it's damn near free, I would pass..
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The thing about YJs is it's a never ending project. You'll toss thousands into it but at the end of the day it's a rusty 4cyl
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My price range to purchase is going to be tough to find a 4.0 in ok shape (3k range). If the price is right on this one, I would consider it. I didn't talk numbers yet although I'm sure he will be over 2k to start. It was in overall ok shape. I'm ok with some work, as long as I can drive it.

It wasn't coolant on the floor, it was just water. I saw a video after posting this on the possible problem, and it lines up with what you guys said and what I saw.

I have 2 more to look at before I start making the call. If any of you see a 4.0 for 3k let me know. I'm doubtful but I'll keep an eye out.
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Sadly I'm not. Eastern PA.
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Sadly I'm not. Eastern PA.
You couldn't be further away and I think rust, rust, rust, when I hear E,PA! Good luck!
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If it’s cheap enough and you are just looking for something to get your feet wet with I don’t see an issue, but if you plan on sinking money into with modifications or restoration look for something with a cleaner slate, these Jeeps suck up money like nobody's business, before you know it you have several thousand invested.

Based on the description I personally would pass
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I'm just looking for one to drive around. Maybe take on the beach when I head down to de beaches.


And yeah rust is a pretty common theme out this way sadly.
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Welcome to the Forum kibbis,

Body rust is bad enough. A rusted frame can quickly double the cost of your Jeep. Look in the front and especially the rear where the shackles mount. Look at both gas tank X-members. Look at the frame where the skid plate mounts and on the left front frame rail where the steering box mounts.
For the body, pull back the front floor mats on both sides & check the floor.
Other posters might suggest other places to look for severe rust.

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If it’s cheap enough and you are just looking for something to get your feet wet with I don’t see an issue, but if you plan on sinking money into with modifications or restoration look for something with a cleaner slate, these Jeeps suck up money like nobody's business, before you know it you have several thousand invested.

Based on the description I personally would pass
He DID say there was water on the floor....

OP.... a jeep is one of those things in life where a cheap one will cost you far more and give you far less than saving up and increasing your budget....

Reccommend saving and finding a rust free jeep
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I was chasing a water problem on my 95 for awhile before I finally figured out where it was coming from. The seam sealer on the front door jamb had cracked. It lets water into a channel between two panels that puts it in the passenger footwell. I used some clear silicone to seal it, but need to dig out the old seam sealer and do it the right way at some point. Maybe after the 50 other things that need done. Just changed the oil on my 95 2.5 Rio Grande. Took the hard top off last weekend so ready for the cool spring nights and summer. Maybe I'll take care of the seam sealer next year.....
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I found one today near by. 99 2.5anual. interior is in good shape. No rust. Needs a throw out bearing but he will replace that first. No ac but I'm not really too worried about that. I'm gonna take it for a spin when the bearing is fixed. Much more promising than the 95
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Took me about 4 years of mindless drifting and 1 year of actual looking at Jeeps online before I bought mine. I paid way to much for it, and have put more into it in 7 months but I like it.
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Took me about 4 years of mindless drifting and 1 year of actual looking at Jeeps online before I bought mine. I paid way to much for it, and have put more into it in 7 months but I like it.
Very similar situation for me. Just wanted another convertible vehicle in the home shop to play around with in warm weather. So far this has been fun mainly because of all the readily available parts that are cheap relative to other cars I have messed around with.
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One of the Sam reasons I want a Jeep. I had a 1980 tr7 to time keeping with but I started having parts go that were really hard to find.

I like having a bit of a project when I have the parts available.
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Agreed^^^
I have had 78-79 F250s and the aftermarket support is just not there. Plus living in California, everything has to be stock, in the area I live in. Then you have 16.5” wheels that are hard to buy for. And at the end of the day you still have a carb so you can get only 1/4 up a trail anyway.

Never thought I would be happy with a little Jeep and a measley 4.0 liter, but it is working out just fine.
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Yep. I bought mine just because I wanted a 5 speed commuter that would still have a fun factor. Bought the first one I looked at, paid too much because I didn't know better, and haven't stopped smiling since.

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That's awesome. I'm hoping for the same. Saw two more today at a side dealer, so there are plenty of options.
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I have an 89 I found here in nepa, no rust, they are out there, ran good until I, well you can see my post. It’s my first Jeep in my 56 years.. I dig it, plus these guys are really helpful. Good luck
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We are in south-central PA (York County) - purchased a 95 YJ that was a PA Jeep for most of its life, bone stock with most maintenance done by a mechanic. We actually bought it while living in MD so tagged it historic, but we're getting regular tags up in PA. Mileage is about the same as the one you're looking at. Inspection repairs came to a whopping $150 to replace a brake line (good shop recommended to us in Fawn Grove that has experience with YJ's). Has this thing been inspected recently? Perhaps you could look into the shop that's passing it if so.

Ours came with soft and hard top, full and half doors. The soft top does need to be replaced, but it was the original so not a huge deal. We ended up selling the full doors and top to someone for an incredible $500. We also got a replacement windshield frame because there is a leak that comes in through the existing windshield frame and pools in that passenger footwell. That bit hasn't been replaced yet, but I learned to park it on the right hill angle to drain that water out. Frame looks good, no major rust, and again, no major work needed. It starts every time and was the DD for the prior owner until he won a new JKU in a raffle.

Purchase price? $4000. I've been told it's cleaner than some newer ones the inspection shop has seen. We also recovered the money from the top and doors we sold, so really $3500 and this thing has proven pretty reliable so far.

My advice would be to keep an eye out. There are a lot of nasty condition YJs out there, but we got lucky with an old guy who needed to get an excess "car" out of his driveway.
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For years the plant where I worked (in the office) had a car wash for employees to drive through and remove the dust that settled on the cars during the day. It was a simple pipe with holes drilled in it that went up and over.

Never had an issue with it except for my '91 and '93 YJs (both purchased new). Every time I would go through water would come in on the passenger side under the dash. The solution - I wouldn't take them through it. Never had an issue when hand washing either one or in the rain.
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Was wondering if the drilled hole is actually the factory drain hole. All soft top vehicles have them. The frame is what would scare me. The rest is not a big deal. And yeah you can dump a fortune in one just like anything else, but you can also run one with very little expense.
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Was wondering if the drilled hole is actually the factory drain hole. All soft top vehicles have them. The frame is what would scare me. The rest is not a big deal. And yeah you can dump a fortune in one just like anything else, but you can also run one with very little expense.

It wasn't. It was off to the side in a spot that the water wasn't even going near. It was a strange spot for a hole and it didn't look factory at all. To me it looked like an attempt to band-aide the water problem instead of fixing it.


Regardless, I passed on that Jeep. I found one up in NY that I'm going to look at tomorrow. It has holes in the floor pan, BUT the price is really good so it may make it worth it. Based on the photos, the frame is in really good shape, new top and tires, new clutch. Owner says it runs really well, just needs the floor fixed. I need to call my shop though and make sure repaired floor pans will pass PA inspection before I do anything.
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Picked up a jeep today! It's in pretty good shape for it's age. Frame is good. Some floor rust that I'll need to patch but he included the pan. Shifts and runs good. New clutch, differential gearing repaired (shop said he had a loose pin), new top, new tires etc...

Only thing I don't like is the seats. They have GM seats with electrical wiring that isn't hooked up so they can't be adjusted. I'd like to go back to stock with those. Fun drive though. I dig it. Pic is in the link above!

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