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Old 01-15-2019, 10:35 AM
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YJ usage and Value thread

First post. Hello to all.
Might need some input and advise form you guys.
I am located in Europe. Been looking at a very low mileage 93 (20000)

Even though it's low mileage, plan is for daily driving the car (commute is very short).
How easy is to daily drive a YJ?

I am into classic cars as I have been daily driving 911s and now a classic SAAB.
I don't mind the car being old with its difficulties, as long as its usable and reliable. I am on an island so beach drive and surf board carrying is part of the weekend life.

In terms of value, I have seen prices all over the place. Unfortunately this is a 2.5 diesel, but it might not be a bad thing for the use i intent. Car has its hard top, half doors and history. Overall in really excellent condition.
Where about is the value.

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This is a very tough question and it's all perspective. It sounds like this is the Jeep that's going to suit your needs. I would die to drive my jeep on the beach every day.

To answer one of your questions, I daily drive my jeep. It has 250,000 miles on it. I love driving it. If it was a gasoline engine then it would be easier to determine the value.

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How big is the island and how common is it?

I daily drive mine with 200,000 miles and have zero concerns with it, except with my current fuel pump failing, lol.

You will have the basics that you need, and nothing you don’t need. I would check into available parts and cost of parts locally, but I think Jeeps are common worldwide.

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Well first off, welcome to wranglerforum.... next, while this may sound silly to you, a jeep is NOT a car... it is a jeep and it isn't proper to call it a car.... I feel that this distinction is especially relevant to your question....

If all you have driven are cars you may be in for a huge surprise.... jeeps are specifically designed to drive off road as well as on road and as such are a compromise.... you will not get car like ride, handling, performance, stability, economy, or comfort....

As for daily driving, it's not the jeep that determines that, it's the driver.... either you are a jeep person or you aren't.....

99% of us are in the USA so our idea of value means absolutely nothing in europe.... also they were never offered here w diesels so we can't help you there either.... I would guess it is likely pretty lethargic but if you don't mind slow, rough riding, noisy, and somewhat clunky you may well fall in love... You also likely can't even imagine the offroad abilities it has with even the slightest of modifications.... One of my favorite things is taking a brand new jeeper in their nearly stock jeep into the woods and teaching them what it can do and how to do it.... amazement generally doesn't begin to describe their reaction.
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Welcome to the Forum mpane,

it's difficult to advise you because we don't know the vehicle market on your island.
I think if you apply common sense and do some local asking around, you'll be OK.
On an Island (surrounded by salt water) I think rust would be an issue. Check the frame very carefully for rust.

Driving an old Jeep is nothing even close to driving a 911. I've driven them both and the experience is like day and night.
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Thank you all.
I do have some Jeep experience as I drove a JKU for 6 years, however, I understand that this is totally different drive.
I used to live in San Diego and loved seeing these Jeeps around. Square lights is the exact same 'bullying' the Porsche 996 get. For some reason, I like both of this brand 'abnormalities/ for both cars. I drive a 996 4S so YJ should just complete my weirdness
I am in a Greek island. Population 700,000. Distances are short and rust is not an issue for this car as it was not close to the beach.
Diesel for my case seems to have several positives for the daily use. Don't mind the speed issue.
Where would you value a gasoline car in the US with the same mileage?
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Again NOT a car.... a VERY clean 4 cyl base model yj w low miles near me would likely be $4500 to $5500

Occasionally we come across one for $15,000-$20,000 or more and we collectively ridicule it....

Ps.... jku is MUCH more carlike than a yj
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YJ’s leave much to be desired in the ride quality department, but why do we drive YJ’s, and where do we find value?

I think I can sum it up:
  • Repairs/mods are pretty simple
  • We like to venture out off the beaten path occasionally
  • Doesn’t look like every thing else on the road
  • Smiles

I think a imported diesel YJ in the US that had no rust or body damage with 20,000 miles would fetch $15,000 - $20,000 + easy

Here is a recent sale of a YJ with 20k miles on eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1995-Jeep-W...app-cvip-panel

Here is another that’s probably a bit high priced, but will probably sell to the right buyer eventually
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F283310321438

I don’t necessarily agree that they are worth this much, but the market dictates the price.

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Good input.
I know what I might be getting in terms of driving experience. Don't worry.
Not interested for a car. Don't have time for those.
The four points mentioned above cover me 100%.
I wish the one I am looking was a Sahara as I really like the green/beige interior.
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First post. Hello to all.
Might need some input and advise form you guys.
I am located in Europe. Been looking at a very low mileage 93 (20000)

Even though it's low mileage, plan is for daily driving the car (commute is very short).
How easy is to daily drive a YJ?

I am into classic cars as I have been daily driving 911s and now a classic SAAB.
I don't mind the car being old with its difficulties, as long as its usable and reliable. I am on an island so beach drive and surf board carrying is part of the weekend life.

In terms of value, I have seen prices all over the place. Unfortunately this is a 2.5 diesel, but it might not be a bad thing for the use i intent. Car has its hard top, half doors and history. Overall in really excellent condition.
Where about is the value.
In Germany, the few YJs in Sale are rated in between 6k and 16k Euros, depending on their mileage, their motor and the amount of rust & abuse.

If I were you, I would sell the hard top and get a bikini top for summer & a soft top for winter instead.
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welcome to the forum. I am sure you understand the value in the US will be far different than Europe.

I for one would love s diesel jeep.... With that being said, as bullet proof as the in line six is, the diesel would be more appropriate for daily driving IMO
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I daily drive a 2.5L gas 5 speed manual, 1992. Input anywhere from 40 to 100 miles a day on mine. I love the YJ. Bumpy, noisy, wet and all. I paid $3500 for mine in Douth Carolina with 110,000 miles and some rust on the body and frame. But it is a project to be restored.

The reality is that you will either love it or hate it.

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In Germany, the few YJs in Sale are rated in between 6k and 16k Euros, depending on their mileage, their motor and the amount of rust & abuse.

If I were you, I would sell the hard top and get a bikini top for summer & a soft top for winter instead.
True, I won't be needing there hard top much here (we get more than 300 sunny days, but I would like to see the car complete and original as much as possible as it is literally untouched.

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welcome to the forum. I am sure you understand the value in the US will be far different than Europe.

I for one would love s diesel jeep.... With that being said, as bullet proof as the in line six is, the diesel would be more appropriate for daily driving IMO
That's exactly what I am thinking. Even though diesels prices are rising in Europe, it will still be a much easier daily.

[QUOTE=StephenCBrinson;34139845]I daily drive a 2.5L gas 5 speed manual, 1992. Input anywhere from 40 to 100 miles a day on mine. I love the YJ. Bumpy, noisy, wet and all. I paid $3500 for mine in Douth Carolina with 110,000 miles and some rust on the body and frame. But it is a project to be restored.

The reality is that you will either love it or hate it.

Seems that daily driving is not prohibiting, depending always on your location.


Hope I can close the deal and post some pics soon.
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Lets see those pictures once the deal is done and she is yours
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Update to the story
there was a delay seeing the car as the owner was out of the country. Went to see the car during the weekend.
The car is 2.5 gas after all (not diesel).
YJ is in really good condition - still has its original tyres on
Perfect interior - some external imperfections but this is a true 20,000 mileage car
The clutch was changed last month and I was wondering how reasonable is that after so few miles
Trying to negotiate a deal and get the car in the next few days - it't not cheap but working on it
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Update to the story
there was a delay seeing the car as the owner was out of the country. Went to see the car during the weekend.
The car is 2.5 gas after all (not diesel).
YJ is in really good condition - still has its original tyres on
Perfect interior - some external imperfections but this is a true 20,000 mileage car
The clutch was changed last month and I was wondering how reasonable is that after so few miles
Trying to negotiate a deal and get the car in the next few days - it't not cheap but working on it


Really sounds like you have found a cherry and with your background of being a collector, you should jump all over this. That is really early for a clutch replacement it seems, but then again the current owner may just not know how to drive a clutch and abused it from inexperience? Hope it works out for you...... PICS after you get it
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Just like the other guys on here, I don't know about the YJ's across the pond, but I can definitely welcome you to the forum from the other side of the pond here in the U.S.! We are glad to have you!

That being said, a Jeep (Especially a YJ) and the love of the vehicle really comes down to the person. I know my guys that I am friends with here, see it as rough riding, and old, but my friends all drive cars that were in production within the last 5 years. I've never been that type of person, and I love my YJ. There's something about the connection you get with your Jeep when you're driving up a steep hill, and she's working her ass off to get you up there, or driving on thsoe summer nights with your Jeep cruising with the top off, not to mention the nights coming back from the beach when you catch a freak rain storm. The one thing you'll be sure to make is memories. Whether those memories brign you to loving the vehicle, or despising it is up to the person. A Jeep certainly is not a car. A Jeep is a Jeep and it stands for Just Empty Every Pocket for a reason, because the owners that can establish the conenction with their vehicle definitely find themselves giving it every cent in their pocket. Maybe this helps put in perspective for you. I mean, my Jeep is called Yeep because my family called a "Heaping Pile of Garbage" when I bought it, so naturally she's a "Yeeping Pile of Garbge", which is why she's called Yeep.

Fall in love with the lifestyle and the community. No other vehicle offers what a Jeep has to offer.
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The type of forum quotes that sends you directly to the bank to go buy that car.
I had a similar story / bonding when I was more or less at your age when I got my first 911 (when I moved to San Diego for college - back when 911 prices were dead low). Cars like Wranglers and 911s bring with them that extra inspirational hype that was magically created from all the previous groups/owners through the years.
The 911 can magically drive you thru the canyons and the Wrangler at any point beyond.
Even though my JEEP experience is very limited and different (around 5 years with the JKU), for some reason I find the YJ the most iconic due t its simplicity.
Still no purchase yet. Will update you soon.
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Looks like the original is from here https://medium.com/swlh/the-zombie-mobile-b03932ac971d
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If you like a lot of action on your way to work. Bumpy, noisy, constantly shifting, then yes drive it on the street, why not. For me, I keep it in the garage waiting for the next excursion. But that's me not you.

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